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Some of my Lophophora Williamsii * 1
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Hi, I have been growing Lophophora williamsii from seed for about 16 years now (along with other Mexican desert cacti). L. williamsii blooms all year long, and produces masses of seed - most of mine I give away or trade for other species. Seed germinates easily, and the seedlings are simple to raise.

Anyway, this one I bought in 1999 as a seedling - it has grown into a nice sized clump - my largest peyote - and is the parent of hundreds, growing all round the globe.



This next pic is a plant I started from seed in 2004 - a couple of years back it produced 6 pups all at the same time, they are now flowering independently. A nice clump in the making!



Here is a singleton, again from the 2004 sowing - that has set quite a few seeds. It is amazing the trouble we take growing from seed, taking especial care that our babies do not get too much light too young. And these seedlings have germinated and grown under the continual fierce Spanish sun. I will replant them when it is time to repot Mum.



A nice double header that I bought last year - to add some variety to my gene pool.



And a singleton showing a lovely flower.



A couple of young ones - the one on the left is just 2 years old - germinated at Christmas time (I love to see life spring up in those short, dark days), the pic was taken in winter - just beginning to produce a bud, which flowered the following spring. The plant on the right is 3 years old - a few flowers in the past season.



And finally for the moment, some uprooted plants that I sent a guy in the US, showing their deep taproots - four peyote, one large one, two small and a tiny sprout, a couple of Encephalocarpus strobiliformis and a Astrophytum myriostigma var. nudum.
You will never see beautiful taproots like those on a graft !!



Although I have now really stopped growing L. williamsii from seed - I have so many of these species and they just keep rooting sprouts all on their own.


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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You've got beautiful lophophora , now I'm excited to see what other cacti species you do and will grow.  Good work:randy:


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: JayZ Morgan]
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Nice plants. The blue/green rocks are ruining the overall look in my opinion.

And your hate for grafted plants is not understandable.


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Argyreia]
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Argyreia said:
Nice plants. The blue/green rocks are ruining the overall look in my opinion.

And your hate for grafted plants is not understandable.




Glad you like the plants, thanks for that.  And Yes, I am going over to white limestone chippings as a top dressing.

Grafting does have a place, with some plants that are (i) very slow on their own roots - for this reason I have a Aztekium ritterii that has been grafted. Or (ii) difficult or impossible to grow on their own roots outside their original habitat - which is why I have a grafted Toumeya papyracantha.  Or (iii) prone to grow in a manner that brings them in contact with the ground, which tends to produce rot - which is why I have grafted cristate forms of Encephalocarpus strobiliformis and Pelecyphora aselliformis.
And I have a grafted Astrophytum asterias which I did myself just to see if I could make the method work.

But I see no real reason for grafting species that grow well and quickly on their own roots - particularly where the plant naturally has a large taproot, which is a central part of its appeal.  But I think HATE is a bit strong, LOL !!!

But each to their own - which is why cacti are such a fascinating interest - do what works for you.


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Edited by Spanishfly (09/26/15 11:53 AM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Glad you're gonna change the rocks :lol:

I see tons of reasons to graft "fast" growing species. It can make cool looking, hardier plants. Seed production and offset production too...

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Argyreia]
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Awesome plants, I look forward to seeing them with a more neutral topping, the green makes them hard to see.  I use a dark but neutral colored pea gravel like this that I think looks nice:

Although white is good too, you want the plants to be the center of attention. 
It's good to see plants that flat and natural looking, you obviously have the perfect climate for them to get a lot of sun without too much water, I don't like when they get too tall.  The nursery plant with all the babies looks great, I'd let them go a while longer.   
:jackiechanofapproval:

Edited by P.Zappatecorum (09/26/15 07:34 PM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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Bravo! Beautiful plants. Thank you for sharing.


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Couperj]
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:amusedapplause:

Love the plants, Fly. Great job!


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Argyreia]
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Argyreia said:
I see tons of reasons to graft "fast" growing species. It can make cool looking, hardier plants. Seed production and offset production too...


I get the reason for your inverted commas LOL, fast growing globular and tubercular cacti are still pretty slow compared to many other plants.  But I get masses of seeds, and self seeded sprouts - to be quite honest more than I know what to do with - and loads of offsets from my plants grown on their own roots.  <SNIP>
But to be quite honest, I do find grafted plants somewhat ugly and bizarre - BUT I understand a lot of people do find this attractive !! Whatever rocks your boat !!

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No trading in the EG.

No trading of any Lophophora on this site at all.



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Edited by Mostly_Harmless (09/27/15 05:52 AM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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I don´t actually grow Lophophora from seed any more - the plants are now producing a steady trickle of them, enough for my needs.  But I have some historical pics of when I was sprouting from seed - that some folk might be interested in.



A winter grow - it is nice to see life spring up in those shorter days.  Seed trays on a heated mat under a 6000K fluoro lamp.  I would put the seed trays in a ziploc bag to keep the humidity high, so you can´t see an awful lot.  Kept them under lights until the sprouts were no longer blobs of green jelly, but miniature adults in appearance.



A tray of yearlings - these have been outside for about 3 months, gradually acclimating to the fierce Spanish sun.  The pic is about actual size on my screen. I always find it interesting that there is such a wide variation in size, although they have obviously had identical conditions - I guess it is all down to genetics and how the cards have been shuffled. They are about to be transplanted into a larger container in full sun, when their growth will accelerate dramatically.



At 18 months old - after some good growth, some are now touching, about ready to go into individual pots.



A pic taken again in winter, the plant on the left is now 2 years old and will flower the following spring.  The one on the right is 3, and has flowered and fruited a couple of times in the preceding season.


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Edited by Spanishfly (10/08/15 05:53 PM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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One venerable member of my collection I repotted today - it was suddenly filling its pot totally.  From the class of 2004, when I did a fairly large winter grow.  I think most of its fellows have been sold to other growers.



I was pleased to see a large and healthy taproot - I think the kids who insist on grafting this species miss so much, certainly they will never see a plant this size.  Also a couple of good sized sprouts, must be less than 2 years old, have appeared since the last repot, hopefully they will be ready to flower next year.  I get a regular trickle of these babies, which is why I don´t bother to sow seeds for peyote any more. 
I repotted her in my regular mix for Mexican desert cacti, in one of my largest Long Tom pots.



For a top dressing I used marble chips (see, I do take note).  Interestingly, this plant has never pupped, unusual for a mature peyote, and the ribs have developed an attractive spiral pattern.


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Edited by Spanishfly (10/08/15 06:22 PM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Beautiful specimen.  I think the marble looks great. 
:somagnificent:
How often do you repot your plants?

Edited by P.Zappatecorum (10/08/15 06:03 PM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Here´s an unusual one - one of my older specimens, which has never pupped, has decided to split itself into two.  This one was on the back seat of my old BMW when I drove to Spain in 2001.



Appears to be developing two growing points, becoming mostruosa???  There is certainly a clear demarcation line, and it is becoming ovoid in shape.  I will keep watching this one.


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Edited by Spanishfly (10/08/15 06:29 PM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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P.Zappatecorum said:
Beautiful specimen.  I think the marble looks great. 
:somagnificent:
How often do you repot your plants?


Thanks for the kind remarks. 

Basically I repot the faster growing cacti when the existing pot is getting a bit full - for instance, with that one the sprouts were getting a bit squashed between Mum and the sides of the old pot.  And certainly if any roots appear out of the drain hole.

With the slower growers maybe every 4 or 5 years.  For instance, I have an Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus that has been in the same soil for 5 years, but hasn´t grown a lot - time for some fresh soil I think.


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Dude you really do have some amazing plants:congrats:


So far every one you post seems to get me hard :freewilly:


If you don't mind me asking, what all plants to you have growing atm?


Also do you collect seeds from any of your flowering plants? Kind of like this Awesome Lithop you posted here?


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: spaceman101]
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Thanks, Spaceman for your kind comments.

I bought my first cactus in 1957 - and have been growing them off and on ever since, so I have learnt a little bit.

All I have ever done in this forum is post pictures of my plants, and honestly talked about the methods I use.

But to answer your question, I have lots of Mexican desert cacti, all growing on tables on my roof terrace.  You can collect seeds from those species that produce berries, but many cacti just drop their seeds into the soil.

I have every species of Ariocarpus (which do produce berries), but unless I have been careful and isolated flowering plants of the same species, the seeds are likely to be hybrid.  I have collected Lophophora williamsii seeds, and I know they are true to type.  I will look out for some berries for you - Epithelantha micromeris is one that is self fertile and produces regularly.


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Edited by Spanishfly (10/28/15 11:55 AM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Dude NOBODY here hates you. Yes you have great hard grown plants that I'm sure MANY here wish were in their own collections "like myself:grin:" the problems that erupted came from where you posted the pics as well as a couple of statements that kind of go against some things we've learned growing the plants ourselves. I'm not saying they're wrong by any means but when you make amazing comments it's usually best to have some picture proof to back things up so you don't get people nipping at your heels and trying to prove you wrong.


I "myself" try not to be one of those guys and try to learn all I can. I often run tests on my plants to attempt to prove certain statements right or wrong before replying in a defensive manner.


I like you dude as well as all of your beautiful babies so stick around and learn how to use the forum. If you need any help just message me and I'll help you anyway I can:grin:


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: spaceman101]
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And to answer one question - I am trying to collect all cacti described in the authoritative tome - Ariocarpus et cetera - Pilbeam & Weightman - I have a lot, but still a few to go.


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Edited by Spanishfly (10/28/15 11:54 AM)

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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: Spanishfly]
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Ok buddy I think I can see where the misunderstanding is. I posted this in that thread after the lithops came up in conversation.

Read that post and the 2 under it.

That is LSoares that he put together specifically to show pictures of HIS flowering cacti. I had a question about mine so I politely asked if it would be ok for me to post a pic in his thread to see what he thought. He said it was ok so I did so. kizatzhaddarak then just thought it was ok to post a pic so she did "she really should have asked first but for some reason she didn't". Then you popped in posting a pic of your Lithop "BTW it was beautiful" but you really would have been better off asking first as I did. Also you said

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Mediterranean climate, where it lives outdoors all year - gets rained on in winter and all the things it shouldn't.  It just doesn't care that the climate is wrong for it.



If it was someone new reading that and living in "say" Indiana then it would have killed the plant because of the differences in climate. That's why LSoares said what he said.



Brother Nobody here hates you or are being aggressively envious because you have great plants:hug:

This forum is set up very specific with strict rules to keep things like this from happening.

Here in the EBG we're more like family than simple posters IMHO and I love it this way. Just be respectful and all you'll get in return is respect:super:


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Re: Some of my Lophophora Williamsii [Re: spaceman101]
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Spaceman - thanks for your care and attention - you are obviously a kind person.

But I cannot do other than what I have been doing - posting pics of my plants and honestly talking about my methods.  Which I will continue to do.


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