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Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort.
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http://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_you_know_about_addiction_is_wrong#


I especially liked the part where he talks about the rats. It's so true...

Thoughts?


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: Patlal]
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Just started watching.  It's pretty insightful, especially where he gets into how bonding can help with addiction and how our draconian methods of treating addicts actually makes things worse

You should provide cliff notes for those who can't watch/don't have time to watch

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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
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I've said so. THe worst enemy of addiction is boredom.

Boredom leads to addiction.
Lack of distractions lead to addiction
Lack of friends leads to addiction.


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: Patlal]
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ted sucks :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: zZZz]
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TED censored Graham Hancock so fuck those elitist assholes.

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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: Patlal]
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There's definitely a widely accepted "environmental" component to addiction.

I think it's simpler than "boredom" or "bonding", but rather a simple system of reinforcers.  If you have something better to do than drugs, you'll do it. You can demonstrate this in a simple lab experiment by asking an addict if they'd rather have drug or money. Pay them enough, and nearly EVERY "addict" will choose money. I've seen experiments where addicts have to be "clean" to work, and they'll choose to work if given the chance.

Rats will choose sugar over cocaine because its just "better" to them.  It doesn't have to be a hunky dory "bonding", just give people something better to do.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: zZZz]
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zZZz said:
ted sucks :whatyougonnado:


I hear that ignorance is bliss.

You should be very happy about that.


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: Patlal]
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it's the way they present their material, it's like their main target are people who know nothing about the world, as if someone just came from mars, those are their targets; they target bubble headed martians.


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: zZZz]
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It's wort?

Wort u tolkin about m8?


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: Patlal]
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I watched this a couple weeks ago, must say I totally agree with the dude.

Very good vid, TED talks are great.


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Re: Everything we know about addiction is wrong. Watch this TED talk. It's wort. [Re: badchad] * 1
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badchad said:
There's definitely a widely accepted "environmental" component to addiction.

I think it's simpler than "boredom" or "bonding", but rather a simple system of reinforcers.  If you have something better to do than drugs, you'll do it. You can demonstrate this in a simple lab experiment by asking an addict if they'd rather have drug or money. Pay them enough, and nearly EVERY "addict" will choose money. I've seen experiments where addicts have to be "clean" to work, and they'll choose to work if given the chance.


How often do they test these addicts? And is the addict still using that money to buy drugs? If so, that doesn't explain anything, that's just simple economic sense. If you're given the choice between $100 worth of heroin a day, or making $1,000 a day which you could then use 10% of to buy your daily heroin dose with, of course everybody would choose the money.

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