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OfflineJiminiCricket
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Registered: 06/26/02
Posts: 116
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My talk with the racists at stormfront.
    #935835 - 10/06/02 02:23 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

At the point where I was first kicked and banned I PM'ed the mod and explained it was serious and that I now knew he couldn't intelligently defend or suppoert his positions, and to please unban me so we could continue to talk.

Here's the log of it:

Session Start: Sun Oct 06 00:58:25 2002
[00:58] *** Now talking in #stormfront
[00:58] *** Topic is 'Welcome To STORMFRONT Chat. Serious Chat For WHITE Racialist. www.stormfront.org '
[00:58] *** Set by USSKIN on Thu Oct 03 18:20:01
[00:58] -StormBot- Welcome to Stormfront IRC. Please chat using the following guidelines: No discussion of illegalities or violence (even jokingly), no profanity or racial slurs of any kind, avoid negative reference to any White racialist group or White patriot, and be civil to ANY visitor to this channel/server. Ignore troublemakers, etc. Ops will handle problems. Ignore op warnings at risk of shun, kick, or ban. Warnings will not be repeated on a daily basis.
[00:58] _JiminiCricket: Hello
[00:58] _Fubar: Heilsa
[00:59] _Fubar: slow nite
[00:59] _JiminiCricket: I stumbeled across the stormfromt web site. found the content rather disturbing, I just have to ask, why are you people so hateful toward minorities?
[00:59] _Fubar: who's hateful?
[00:59] _JiminiCricket: This is a serious question, please?
[01:00] _JiminiCricket: The people on stormfromt are.
[01:00] _Fubar: who is?
[01:00] _Fubar: got any names?
[01:01] _JiminiCricket: I have many black and jewish friends, many of whom are nicer than a lot of whites I know and I just don't understand hating anyone because of their skin color
[01:01] _Fubar: like Al Sharpton? or Jessie Jackson or Arial Sharon?
[01:01] *** You were kicked by Fubar (This is a White Racialist Chat, go away)
[01:01] *** Attempting to rejoin...
[01:01] *** Rejoined channel #stormfront
[01:01] *** Topic is 'Welcome To STORMFRONT Chat. Serious Chat For WHITE Racialist. www.stormfront.org '
[01:01] *** Set by USSKIN on Thu Oct 03 18:20:01
[01:01] -StormBot- Welcome to Stormfront IRC. Please chat using the following guidelines: No discussion of illegalities or violence (even jokingly), no profanity or racial slurs of any kind, avoid negative reference to any White racialist group or White patriot, and be civil to ANY visitor to this channel/server. Ignore troublemakers, etc. Ops will handle problems. Ignore op warnings at risk of shun, kick, or ban. Warnings will not be repeated on a daily basis.
[01:01] *** Fubar sets mode: +b *!Smithe@=QYRTXHR94T.ipt.aol.com
[01:01] *** You were kicked by Fubar (Fubar)
[01:01] *** Attempting to rejoin...
Session Close: Sun Oct 06 01:01:35 2002


Session Start: Sun Oct 06 01:05:26 2002
[01:05] *** Now talking in #stormfront
[01:05] *** Topic is 'Welcome To STORMFRONT Chat. Serious Chat For WHITE Racialist. www.stormfront.org '
[01:05] *** Set by USSKIN on Thu Oct 03 18:20:01
[01:05] -StormBot- Welcome to Stormfront IRC. Please chat using the following guidelines: No discussion of illegalities or violence (even jokingly), no profanity or racial slurs of any kind, avoid negative reference to any White racialist group or White patriot, and be civil to ANY visitor to this channel/server. Ignore troublemakers, etc. Ops will handle problems. Ignore op warnings at risk of shun, kick, or ban. Warnings will not be repeated on a daily basis.
[01:05] _Fubar: his name is Ron smithe
[01:05] _Fubar: what do you want now?
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[01:05] _Fubar: all you have to do is look around and you can see what is going on Ron
[01:05] _SomeOne: Hello all.
[01:06] _Fubar: Heilsa SomeOne
[01:06] _JiminiCricket: I want to know why you dislike minorities? What have they done to you not to like them?
[01:06] _Fubar: look around, every neighborhood that used to be clean and white is filthy and crime ridden
[01:06] _Kraftschlag: Obviously you need to look more at sotmfront site to know unless you want to continue with your head in the sand
[01:06] _Kraftschlag: Look at the statistics
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: Why don't you take a stroll through a predominately black neighborhood
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: if you dare...
[01:07] _Fubar: visit the FBI site and read up on crime
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: See the buildings painted with graffiti?
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: Whites don't do that
[01:07] _SomeOne: Check out the FBI crime statistics.
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: You hear about drive thru shootings
[01:07] _JiminiCricket: I can speak from experience that many are kinder than whites I know. A chinese immigrant I met in college for exmple would walk over hot coals to help me if necessary, when I wrecked my car he offered to go out of his way to take me to work and pick me up for 2 weeks, no one else I know would have done that, let alone offered to.
[01:07] _Kraftschlag: You ever been threatened by a black or harrassed by a black on the streets or are you a stuck up little rich bastard?
[01:07] _Fubar: so?
[01:08] _Fubar: one in a million
[01:08] _Fubar: ever have your little brother killed by a black for his jacket?
[01:08] _Kraftschlag: I've met nice immigrants too
[01:08] _JiminiCricket: I am from a nice neighborhood without many blacks at all, Kraft
[01:08] _Kraftschlag: and yes there are crappy whites
[01:08] _Kraftschlag: BUT that still does not change my morals and beliefs that I know I must have
[01:08] _Fubar: nice neighborhood, says it all,
[01:08] _Fubar: you don't know what your talking about Ron
[01:08] _SomeOne: Until you experience black racism first hand you'll probably never understand it.
[01:08] _Kraftschlag: It does not mean that just because I meet a nice nonwhite, I do NOT need to sleep with him
[01:09] _Kraftschlag: yep
[01:09] _Fubar: go visit Chicago for a while
[01:09] _JiminiCricket: I wouldn't want to sleep with anyone really, without being married.
[01:09] _Kraftschlag: Like I said, take a long walk through the black neighborhood for a while
[01:09] _Fubar: if you survive, come back and tell us about it
[01:09] _Kraftschlag: But you would sleep with a nonwhite, hm?
[01:09] _Kraftschlag: send a post card too:)
[01:10] _JiminiCricket: I know inner city neighborhoods are poor and crime ridden, but that's because of the way the people wee raised, going to poor schools and never knowing how decent people live.
[01:10] _Fubar: poor is NOT a valid excuse
[01:10] _SomeOne: Black racists are far more likely to do violence to other people.
[01:10] _JiminiCricket: Kraft, I have no desire to sleep with a non-white
[01:10] _Fubar: I'm poor and I dont' rape, rob and kill
[01:10] _Kraftschlag: I was born poor too, but I have morals
[01:11] _Kraftschlag: I've never killed anyone or done any time in jail. I work for everything I have.
[01:11] _Kraftschlag: I don't bum off of welfare bucks
[01:11] _Fubar: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38350
[01:11] _Fubar: read that Jimini
[01:11] _JiminiCricket: So doa lot of minorities, in my opinion, I avoid people that steal or act violently like I avoid poison, but there are many that are kinder and more generous than I
[01:11] _Fubar: its just a tip of the iceberg
[01:11] _SomeOne: How do you feel about paying blacks reparations for slavery?
[01:11] _Fubar: you must have a very small circle of friends then
[01:12] _JiminiCricket: I simply do not understand lumping everyone together in to one category due to the actions of a few
[01:12] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, one minute, I will read that, brb
[01:12] _Fubar: just bm it
[01:12] _SomeOne: If you are more likely to be killed by a certain race, then it makes sense to acknowledge the odds.
[01:12] _Fubar: how do you feel about our OPEN borders??
[01:13] _Fubar: you like Taco's I hope
[01:13] _Fubar: laced with cocaine
[01:13] _Fubar: that's where it's coming from
[01:13] _Fubar: Mexico
[01:13] _Kraftschlag: It's human nature to be racist to an extent
[01:13] _Fubar: by the ton
[01:14] _JiminiCricket: A rather horrible story, and a tragedy, but it speaks nothing of the hundreads of immigrants that benefit our society.
[01:14] _Kraftschlag: Benefit, lol
[01:14] _Kraftschlag: Are you saying you can't make your own tacos, lol
[01:14] _SomeOne: Benefit businessmen you mean.
[01:14] _Kraftschlag: you need a mexican to do it for you:)
[01:15] _SomeOne: Many of those immigrants are draining the health service budgets of the communities they move to.
[01:15] _Fubar: you like driving your car among mexicans that are not insured or have US driver licenses?
[01:15] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, I have mixed feeling on the open border policy, I dislike it because the poor immigrants are primarily liberal and vote democrat because they enjoy welfare benefits for their large families, but I also recognize the need for increasing immigration. De to the abortion crisis our polulation in America would be shrinking if it were not for immigrants, a shrinking population would truelybe disasterous.
[01:16] _Fubar: abortion crisis?
[01:16] _Kraftschlag: So end abortion
[01:16] _Kraftschlag: Stop using abortion as birth control
[01:16] _Kraftschlag: Abortion is wrong period
[01:16] _Fubar: not among the monkeys or muds
[01:16] _SomeOne: I would suggest that the government reduce the tax burden so white working people can afford children.
[01:16] _Fubar: too bad retroactive abortion isn't available for them
[01:16] _Kraftschlag: If you have white people to do the work, etc then we'd have a population
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: Plus the fact, people have smaller families so they can afford an SUV and a cruise every year
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: as opposed to caring for their race and nation and having more children to raise
[01:17] _Fubar: or move to a safe neighborhood
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: It's poor morals and lack of self reliance that causes this country to go to crap
[01:17] _JiminiCricket: Kraft, you do have a good point there. People would rather enjoy lavishpossessions than have kids.
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: Because the people rely on the government
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: Well, what does the government give us?
[01:17] _Kraftschlag: More immigrants
[01:17] _Fubar: more taxes
[01:18] _Kraftschlag: Hey, the rich people still get their SUV and cruise and not have to do anymore work, whooppeey
[01:18] _Fubar: I've been bleached white by taxation
[01:18] _SomeOne: We could save billions by not sending the money to Israel and other countries.
[01:18] _Kraftschlag: me too
[01:18] _Kraftschlag: got to go for now, bbl
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[01:18] _JiminiCricket: I'm way over taxed, 29 percent of my pay check goes straight to the gov and for taxes
[01:19] _Fubar: it goes to non working "illegal immigrants"
[01:19] _Fubar: paying for medical and schooling
[01:19] _Fubar: housing and other "neccessities" that we have to work for
[01:19] _SomeOne: Welfare for illegal aliens is another farce.
[01:20] _Fubar: in a ball park, how much do you make per month?
[01:20] _JiminiCricket: I've only had contact with about 5 mexian immigrants through church and around, and they have all been the hardest working people 've ever met. Often working 14 hour days for low wages to have a little ewxtra to send home to mexico
[01:20] _Fubar: I live on $900 per month income and still have to pay freaking taxes to pay for mexicans
[01:20] _Fubar: 5?
[01:20] _Fubar: I contact 500 a day
[01:21] _JiminiCricket: Now the female mexicans are stay at home and take care of the kids types, but the men support them
[01:21] _SomeOne: Did you read about the three illegal Mexicans who helped slaughter 5 citizens?
[01:21] _Fubar: send home to Mexico?
[01:21] _JiminiCricket: Yes, so they can send for their families
[01:22] _Fubar: right, more illegals
[01:22] _Fubar: getting more free education and medical
[01:22] _Fubar: you try going to the hospital and getting anything for free
[01:22] _Fubar: they will throw you out on your ear
[01:22] _Fubar: if your' white that is
[01:23] _JiminiCricket: They have better lives here and access to medical care and decent schools that they just don't have access to south of the border. Why shouldn't they have a better life?
[01:23] _Fubar: I am DAMN Tired of supporting Illegal Mexicans here.
[01:23] _Fubar: I don
[01:23] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, what state are you in out of curiosity, I'm in Ohio
[01:23] _SomeOne: Why the hell don't they stay home and change their own damn country.
[01:23] _Fubar: I don't say they shouldnt have a better life
[01:23] _Fubar: but why at MY Expense?
[01:24] _Fubar: I'm in ORegon
[01:24] _Fubar: I know where you are
[01:24] _JiminiCricket: I believe we should all pull our own weight. It has been my observation that Mexican immigrants pull theirs and more.
[01:24] _Fubar: BS
[01:24] _Fubar: your observation of what 5?
[01:24] _Fubar: get your head out of your ass
[01:25] _JiminiCricket: And of what they've told me.
[01:25] _Fubar: do some research and you'll see the real TRUTH
[01:25] _Fubar: you believe what you see on the TV too I suppose
[01:26] _Fubar: why do you think we white Americans should pay taxes to help mexicans?
[01:26] _Fubar: or blacks for that matter?
[01:26] _JiminiCricket: I actualy don't watch TV. I get my news from the paper and internet. I also get the Jerusalem Post once a week.
[01:26] _SomeOne: Oh gawd.
[01:26] _Fubar: Jerusalem Post?
[01:26] _Fubar: **** Israel
[01:27] _Fubar: I suppose you believe the Holohoax too?
[01:27] _JiminiCricket: I'm a Christian and I enjoy reading about the holy land and the goings on over there
[01:27] _Fubar: how old are you ?
[01:27] _JiminiCricket: 'Holohoax'?
[01:27] _JiminiCricket: I'm 21
[01:27] _Fubar: you read it right
[01:27] _SomeOne: How you feel about shooting children with tanks?
[01:27] _Fubar: ah, that explains it
[01:27] _Fubar: I'm 60
[01:28] _JiminiCricket: Of course I'm opposed to killing Childen.
[01:28] _Fubar: I have lived a whole lot more life than you have and know a little bit more about what is going on than you do, stuck in your little white neighborhood in Ohio
[01:28] _SomeOne: What "democracy" goes around firing tanks at kids throwing rocks?
[01:28] _Fubar: just the jews
[01:28] _Fubar: I hope Israel gets leveled into a parking lot
[01:28] _JiminiCricket: Now, that's an exageraton, that's what water hoses are for.
[01:29] _Fubar: exaggeration?
[01:29] _Fubar: oh my, where is my link to the photos?
[01:29] _SomeOne: You should read something other than a jewish propaganda rag.
[01:29] _Fubar: you are being brain washed
[01:29] _Fubar: or are already from the sounds of it
[01:29] _JiminiCricket: I like the Jews. Israel becoming a nation again fulfill Bible prophecy. Their Messiah, is my Christ. ANd He will come again soon.
[01:30] _Fubar: ha ha ha ha
[01:30] _Fubar: not if I can help it
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[01:30] _Fubar: Heilsa ET
[01:30] _SomeOne: Water hoses have never been used as far as I know against Palestinian protestors. Funny isn't it?
[01:30] _JiminiCricket: Hi Earl
[01:30] _Fubar: we have a jew among us
[01:30] _SomeOne: Hi Earl.
[01:30] _EarlTurner: Howdy!
[01:30] _JiminiCricket: No, I'm British and Irish, not jewish.
[01:30] _Fubar: you sound jew to me
[01:31] _SomeOne: You know which nation the anti-christ will come from too, right?
[01:31] _JiminiCricket: No, I don't
[01:31] _Fubar: JiminiCricket? I like the Jews. Israel becoming a nation again fulfill Bible prophecy. Their Messiah, is my Christ. ANd He will come again soon.
[01:31] _SomeOne: The United States.
[01:31] _JiminiCricket: Only time will tell on that one.
[01:31] _SomeOne: It is the only world power now, and it is turning its military forces against other nations.
[01:32] _EarlTurner: has Lycea left for the night?
[01:32] _Fubar: well , you need to study up and read something besides the jew papers
[01:32] _Fubar: havent' seen her tonite
[01:32] _JiminiCricket: The whole middle east palistinian/Israeli situation is a powder ked. Sicide bombers, retaliation, etc.
[01:32] _JiminiCricket: It goes both ways.
[01:32] _Fubar: heh, yeah, bomb packs against tanks and full auto weapons
[01:33] _EarlTurner: I had an excelent night flyering a ****** concert in Casper
[01:33] _Fubar: great
[01:33] _SomeOne: Did you notice that, while the suicide bombers stopped, the Israelis kept on attacking refugee camps?
[01:33] _EarlTurner: got 250 out but there were about 300 cars
[01:34] _Fubar: good job
[01:34] _JiminiCricket: All palistinain villages and towns are called trefugee camps, only for political reasons.
[01:34] _SomeOne: Eventually they attacked Israel again after about 40 children were killed.
[01:34] _EarlTurner: oh well...it will make the local papers on monday
[01:34] _Fubar: probably
[01:34] _SomeOne: Israel wants to prolong the situation because it is to their advantage.
[01:34] _Fubar: All I can say to Jimmi is read something beside jew propoganda
[01:34] _EarlTurner: well, Im off to bed...enough excitement for one night
[01:35] _Fubar: nite
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[01:35] _SomeOne: They know the US government is heavily influenced by jews and it will act only in Israel's interest.
[01:35] _JiminiCricket: Clinton and the Israeli regime gave Arafat a sweetheart deal, the return of all occupied territories and half of jerusalem, but he refused. The palistinains don't want peace.
[01:35] _Fubar: how much of our tax dollars are sent to the jew each year?
[01:36] _JiminiCricket: About 4 billion
[01:36] _JiminiCricket: + military aid
[01:36] _Fubar: why?
[01:36] _Fubar: why?
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[01:36] _Fubar: so they can kill more Pali's?
[01:36] _JiminiCricket: Because they could hardly continue without it.
[01:36] _SomeOne: 4 billion for around 6 million people. That probably is more than some states receive.
[01:37] _Fubar: so why do I have to keep paying them to kill ?
[01:37] _Fubar: thats 6 million too damn many
[01:38] _JiminiCricket: Hardly, it's a tiny fraction of the budget, and a small portion of forign aid. It also benefits Americans by helping to keep inflation down as the Federal Reserve pumps the economy full of money and inflates the economy.
[01:38] _Fubar: hah, wrong
[01:38] _JiminiCricket: Then why?
[01:39] _Fubar: any money extorted by the government in "taxes" is not a tiny fraction of anyone's budget
[01:39] _Fubar: why not give some of that money to the poor people here?
[01:39] _Fubar: or cut taxes a little to the working class so they can improve their lives here?
[01:40] _Fubar: our own government steals from its people and gives it to our enemies
[01:40] _JiminiCricket: If that money wasen't shipped over seas and eliminated from the US economy the money in your pocet would be worth a lot less, it helps keep inflation down.
[01:40] _Fubar: bs, the money is worthless in the first place
[01:40] _Fubar: it isn't backed by gold
[01:40] _JiminiCricket: True.
[01:40] _Fubar: the gold is all in jewland
[01:41] _Fubar: that son was on your talmudvision just recently on the History channel to boot
[01:42] _JiminiCricket: But what gives gold it's valueis supply and demand, that people will exhange it for a specified ampount of money, or goods or services. It is the same with our paper money, though not bcked by gold.
[01:42] _Fubar: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38733
[01:42] _JiminiCricket: going to that link now...
[01:42] _Fubar: here's a little story about a groid in your state
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[01:44] _Fubar: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38391
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[01:44] _SomeOne: wb tin
[01:44] _tinsoldier: hello hello
[01:44] _Fubar: Heilsa tin
[01:44] _JiminiCricket: I agree that man acted illresponsible and attempted to kill a lot of people. He may have been influinced by drugs. And besides for every story you can dig up about a crime commited by minorities I'm sure there are a few about wonderful things done by others.
[01:44] _SomeOne: hello john.
[01:44] _Fubar: just in time to debate a jew
[01:44] _john: hello
[01:44] _tinsoldier: hello fubar
[01:44] _JiminiCricket: Hi John and tin
[01:44] _Fubar: hi john
[01:45] _john: hello
[01:45] _john: so whats up tonight?
[01:45] _Fubar: listening to the rantings of a jew lover
[01:45] _tinsoldier: ?
[01:45] _john: cool
[01:46] _tinsoldier: ?
[01:46] _SomeOne: Listening to an apologist for criminals.
[01:46] _Fubar: little Jimini
[01:46] _tinsoldier: which one?
[01:46] _tinsoldier: oh
[01:46] _Fubar: jimini Cricket is a jew name too
[01:46] _john: i dont see or hear anything
[01:46] _tinsoldier: AFK
[01:46] _JiminiCricket: Oh hardly... I thought we were having a lively discussion, not a ranting debate
[01:46] _SomeOne: Wait a bit.
[01:47] _Fubar: what do you think the ratio on crime stats is Ron?
[01:47] _john: speakers are cranked and i dont see any dialog on screen
[01:48] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, you you think that if inner city minorities had the same educational advantages of suburban white or asian kids that they'de act in the same ways
[01:48] _JiminiCricket: ?
[01:48] _Fubar: if the blacks comprise approx. 6 % of the populous, but comit 85+% of the crime?
[01:48] _Fubar: they have the exact same education
[01:49] _Fubar: education is standardized and has been for the last 30 years
[01:49] _john: um they are 14 % as of 2000 census
[01:49] _SomeOne: Trouble is many black students are distruptive.
[01:49] _Fubar: so that little theory is moot
[01:49] _JiminiCricket: It's my understanding that about 50% of blacks also live under the poverty level, and were raised in disadvantaged environments
[01:49] _Fubar: your playing with words
[01:49] _JiminiCricket: Someone, that is often related to problems at home, and lack of dicaplin.
[01:50] _Fubar: why is it that white "disadvantaged" as you put it kids don't do what the blacks do?
[01:50] _Fubar: why is it that POOR whites dont do the crime that the blacks do?
[01:50] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, I think they do. In the same environments, large groups of people typically act in similar ways.
[01:50] _Fubar: then why does it not show up in the FBI stats?
[01:51] _JiminiCricket: And many poor whites live in rural environments and are well diciplined.
[01:51] _Fubar: why do we have all these "laws" that discriminate against whites and crime reporting?
[01:51] _john: crime stats dont support that mr cricket
[01:51] _JiminiCricket: Do the FBI stats show the environment someone lives in?
[01:51] _Fubar: environment argument is moot
[01:52] _Fubar: this is an integrated society according to the laws now
[01:52] _JiminiCricket: Why? That is he subject, environment and propensity for criminal activity...
[01:52] _Fubar: you still don't get it do you
[01:52] _john: no they show blacks commit quadruple crime for being 14% of 275 million
[01:53] _Fubar: 14% of the population commit 90% of the crime
[01:53] _JiminiCricket: Another factor is that poor blacks can't afford good attorneys and ofen rely on public defenders that don't really care to work on the case
[01:53] _Fubar: more excuses
[01:53] _Fubar: you are one lame fool
[01:54] _tinsoldier: gosh, fubar, you are more patient than me , just nuke this idiot
[01:54] _Fubar: naw
[01:54] _Fubar: I'm havin fun
[01:54] _JiminiCricket: It's my understanding that they are convicted of around 50% of crimes that get convictions. Not 90%, I wonder about the credibility of your sources as well.
[01:54] _tinsoldier: AFK
[01:55] _Fubar: you really need to get out more Ron
[01:55] _SomeOne: Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders rnBlacks were 6 times more likely than whites to be murdered in 1999
[01:55] _SomeOne: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
[01:55] _Fubar: take a nice bus ride thru a black neighborhood
[01:55] _JiminiCricket: Lately I haven't had the time, between work and school, the only free time I have is at night, and it'sspent primaritly online.
[01:55] _SomeOne: Blacks were 7 times more likely than whites to commit homicide in 1999
[01:56] _Fubar: ah, another reason for your lack of information, "school"
[01:57] _Fubar: back in the late 50's I had a black "buddy" in the service
[01:57] _john: no they do what they want when they want and only care when the man slapps the cuffs on them
[01:57] _JiminiCricket: Hmm, well we know the culture of a great percentage of inner city blacks has become one of generation dependance on social programs and drug abuse. It's tragic that so many lives are lost. I can' argue with those stats, however.
[01:57] _Fubar: he ended up getting killed by one of his own
[01:58] _JiminiCricket: Fubar, I was mostly home schooled.
[01:58] _Fubar: you seem to be able to argue with all the stats but your arguments are all full of holes
[01:58] _Fubar: statistics are FACTS, not arguments
[01:59] _Fubar: read them and weep
[01:59] _Fubar: have you ever wondered why this problem exists in the first place?
[01:59] _JiminiCricket: There are difference in peoples life styles, and the sub-cultures we live in. These are contributing factors and should be considered when viewing statistics. And as Mark Twain said "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."
[01:59] _john: thats the librals....democrats..give them more money..they will be alright....well all the rappers and sport guys are making millions and still end up in crimes..money didnt fix anything
[02:00] _SomeOne: Yeah, rappers tend to be gang members.
[02:00] _john: no doubt
[02:01] _JiminiCricket: John, you hit the nail on the head, Johnson's liberal great society plans backfired and created a system of generational dependancy. I blame the liberals that created the situation more than the victims of it.
[02:01] _Fubar: enough of your stupidity, go read something besides the Jews Paper and you will see just what is happening. Then take a walk thru a black neighborhood and come back in a week if you survive.
[02:01] _john: thank you...most people try to ******** around that one!
[02:02] *** Fubar sets mode: +b *!*Smithe@*.ipt.aol.com
[02:02] _JiminiCricket: good byw
[02:02] #stormfront Cannot send to channel
[02:02] *** You were kicked by Fubar (Fubar)
[02:02] *** Attempting to rejoin...
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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
    #935844 - 10/06/02 02:26 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I just realized it doesn't say Jimini in fron of my posts, so basically I'm the only one that is intelligent and against the racists. :grin:


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: matts]
    #935955 - 10/06/02 04:19 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I hate people who hate people.


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    #935964 - 10/06/02 04:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Then do you hate yourself?


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket] * 1
    #935988 - 10/06/02 04:55 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

My observation:
The racists could not intelligently defend his positions, instead he relied on the racist web site for his only source. The racist usually feels inadiquate and low. They find that by thinking they're superior than someone else they feel powerful and special. This is evidenced by the dispariging remarks about hispanics and their stereotype as taco makers. It boosts his self esteem and ego to belittle others, even whole groups of people. It also gives them a sense of belonging with the other losers drawn in to the lies and hatred.

Lets all love one another :smile:


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #936020 - 10/06/02 05:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Its astonishing how these people think the Holocaust was a hoax. I mean how many witnesses from many different allied countries witnessed these camps first hand? People from all walks of life, religion, race all witnessed first hand these death camps.

I think hate above all clouds minds worse than anything, well that and religious zealotry :smile: 


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: Thor]
    #936021 - 10/06/02 05:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Then do you hate yourself?



Man,come on now. Read my title.


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
    #936529 - 10/06/02 03:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting? I didn?t read all of that, but I don?t need too. It?s been my impression, over the years, that racists are generally idiots, cowards, and are just generally weak. I don?t like them. I never have, and I never will. I just generally try to avoid them. I don?t need their negative trip in my life. :frown:


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: Effed]
    #936631 - 10/06/02 04:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

>>Haha .. amazing these idiots think white people dont do graffitti.. 

Yeah Effed paints shit up too!!  PUNK!!  :tongue:

There are many bad apples from every ethnic group.  I think the best course would be ignore them.  Hopefully they follow their own words and don't incite violence.  They can hate all they want as long as they keep it to themselves. 


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
    #936911 - 10/06/02 05:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Regardless of the fact that your opinions don't apper to make a dent in these peoples way of thinking, I think you did a great job of defending in this conversation.  Many of the places where the posted statistics and claimed it was all race, you were able to come up with a better expalination.

[01:52] no they show blacks commit quadruple crime for being 14% of 275 million
[01:53] 14% of the population commit 90% of the crime
[01:53] Another factor is that poor blacks can't afford good attorneys and ofen rely on public defenders that don't really care to work on the case


I found this to be very interesting....keep trying....even if you don't "change their minds" at least you can distract them for a few minutes and offer an opposing view.  :smile: 


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
    #937152 - 10/06/02 07:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i went to see the band stormfront once
all of the people were very angry and violent
i thought
"maybe its because they all listen to such bad music"
but i didnt say it outloud
cause i would have gotten my ass kicked

i liked the womens page on the website
i wonder if they know somewhere how silly it is?

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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket]
    #937275 - 10/06/02 08:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

>I just realized it doesn't say Jimini in fron of my posts

fixed.


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: JiminiCricket] * 1
    #937318 - 10/06/02 08:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

From http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=7fa521440f38f0b4c8ce434b2dbfc139&threadid=38680 :

"I hear from fellow white racialists that you should do martial arts like karate and kung fu to prepare yourself for the coming race wars and for protection against non white criminals and lowlifes in every day life.
However these martial arts are Asian in origin, they are not from our race. So I would like to hear some views from the Stormfronters in this group to see if it's OK if one practices karate or kung fu and use any means to defend ones self, regardless of their origin.
Or should we limit ourself to European martial arts styles such as pankration (Greek) and savate (French) or to knives/firearms and oldstyle fisticuffs?"



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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: Spiffy]
    #937757 - 10/06/02 10:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the encouraging words. After I was banned for the second time I PM'ed the mod and told him that I love him and that I'll be praying for him and that there a lot of gentle good minorities, and a lot of them forgive him for his hatred of them. I sometimes enjoy telling off these narrow minded bigots. I bless them that curse me. It's the best revenge.  :smirk:

Anno, ty so much for putting the names in front of the posts. I haven't any idea how you did it but thanks. You have mad programing skillz.  :laugh:


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    #8945612 - 09/17/08 08:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

im bumping this in relevance to a post i am about to make about stormfront


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So next time I make a thread about eggs, I should bump a six year old thread about eggs? Pointless.


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8945694 - 09/17/08 08:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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So next time I make a thread about eggs, I should bump a six year old thread about eggs? Pointless.




yeah you totally should, i will support you 100% if you do, no lies.


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Re: My talk with the racists at stormfront. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8945698 - 09/17/08 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So next time I make a thread about eggs, I should bump a six year old thread about eggs? Pointless.




if yoou're making a thread about eggs, sure, bump any thread that has the word egg in it


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