D.M.T said:

That's grasping at straws.. By your logic my chimney illegally alters animal behavior too

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Gresh said:

D.M.T said:

That's grasping at straws.. By your logic my chimney illegally alters animal behavior too

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how is that?

are chimneys so fucking small now that deer get maimed and stuck in them

ive never heard of a deer being stuck in a chimney.

and i dont think im grasping at straws at all, OP's neighbor has a dangerous fence in his yard.

its either not big enough or not built right, or not built with the right materials, because it is fucking maiming deer.

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Animals get stuck in chimneys all the time.

And there's probably nothing wrong with the fence. Animals just don't have the type of critical thinking skills people do. That isn't our fault.

Gresh said:

also, constructing a fence surreptitiously to trap game animals is illegal

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Gresh said:

also, constructing a fence surreptitiously to trap game animals, especially out of season or without a license, is illegal

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Farm Layout

Again, careful planning is essential for a successful operation. Design your range, pens, food plots, breeding areas and handling facilities in advance. It is best to incorporate plans for future expansion at this time. Since deer adapt well to most terrain, acreage suitable for deer farming may be relatively inexpensive. On one prime acre of land, you may accommodate2-3 adult whitetail deer, 7-10 adult fallow deer, 4-7 adult red deer, 7-8 axis deer and 1-2 elk.

However, keeping the number of animals per acre to a minimum reduces stress on the animals. You may find it will be more cost-effective in the long run to spread your animals out, in order to maintain the plant densities that will keep a pasture healthy and able to regenerate the following spring.

In developing the farm site, an important factor is a steady and reliable source of clean water. Fresh water is essential to any deer’s diet. It is also beneficial to try to use the deer’s naturally occurring travel routes and special use areas. These paths can help to create an overall plan regarding runways for movement of stock, breeding paddocks, fawning areas and a centrally located handling facility to which stock an reasonably be moved form your special use areas.
Fencing

Choose hi-tensile fence designed specifically for deer or game. Small squares (or rectangles) in the fencing near ground level will accomplish much in the way of predator control year-round and help contain inquisitive youngsters in the spring.

An outer covering of shad cloth, plastic or wooden snow fence or other visual barrier is a valuable tool in further securing your livestock.

Corner and end posts are usually of greater diameter than line posts. Use quality gates for perimeter fence openings, including a pedestrian walk-through. Eight foot fence is normally adequate for containing most species of farmed deer; however, check with your state for special regulations that may apply.

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

I think you guys are all missing the part where the fence owner is the town sheriff.

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Gresh said:

D.M.T said:

musiclover420 said:

The sheriff isn't "driving" a herd though... He has a fence meant to keep deer out that is clearly not working as intended from all OP has shared.

Where dos it say it doesn't matter if some get trapped inside? That is still altering the behavior of a wild animal and that is what the law specifically is protecting...

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If a deer gets trapped inside a fence by itself, how is that altering the behavior of a wild animal?

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the fence is altering the behavior of the animals by being there.


if i line my property with 1ft high barbed wire and a child gets stuck in it, or a bunch of animals, or whatever and i get reported to the police, i will be fucked.

and its not because barbed wire is illegal or something, its because i used it in an improper, negligent and dangerous way.


or for instance, say i leave a loaded pistol in the middle of the road on purpose. its not illegal to own that pistol, but it is illegal to place it in the middle of the road for any kid to pick up

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Gresh said:

sorry to disappoint

i just think its irresponsible.

OP's neighbors fence hasn't trapped one, but at least three deer. its an issue that should be fixed

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a couple deer didn't starve on 10 acres.

OP--pics or it didn't happen

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On one prime acre of land, you may accommodate2-3 adult whitetail deer, 7-10 adult fallow deer, 4-7 adult red deer, 7-8 axis deer and 1-2 elk.

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