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Bulk Substrate Question
    #2076220 - 11/06/03 08:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, here's the setup. I have foil pans filled to a depth of about 3 inches of cow manure spawned with wbs. My question is is it okay to disturb the substrate after about eighty percent colonization to speed up things and ensure total colonization or should i just leave it alone?


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
    #2076236 - 11/06/03 08:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what do you mean "disturb"?.....my friend fans his twice daily....and it is tearing trough it


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: MilkVein]
    #2076246 - 11/06/03 08:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I know i don't know quite how to term it. If it was grain spawn I would say shake the jar. However, since this is cow shit in a foil pan shaking doesn't really fit. What I mean is stir everything up again evenly distributing pockets of colonization with pockets of no colonization.


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
    #2076254 - 11/06/03 08:48 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i dont think that is something you would want to do.
shaking a jar is one thing mixing up a bulk substrate is another.

point being that a jar of substrate in a rather sterile enviroment, but a bulk substrate is open to contaminates. I have one going right now and i found the best thing to do it to let it be. messing with it too much can well mess it up.


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: Seraph]
    #2076257 - 11/06/03 08:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i agree seraph
my foaf had overlay and hesitantly tried deepscratching without success.
have patience.


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: Seraph]
    #2076260 - 11/06/03 08:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

okay that's probably the smart thing to do. But me being me just couldn't leave well enough alone and decided to mix things up a bit. I had about twenty 12 by 8 foil pans filled 2/3 full of cow manure/peat moss innoculated with wbs. Needles to say about 12 were eighty percent colonized so I decided to stir things up. Of course I'll let you know. I'm relying on the fact that my cow manure is pretty selective to mushroom mycelium!!!


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
    #2076263 - 11/06/03 08:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

but you know this is where my train of thought came from. In the past when I cased pf cakes I would crumble them up and they would increase in vigor. I'm hoping the same applies.


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
    #2076613 - 11/06/03 11:49 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

we all hope so too,happy times will come :thumbup:


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: ]
    #2078557 - 11/06/03 10:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

in reply to iamblancer the only thing you can do when you have overlay is to deep scratch. I don't understand why your friend would have no success.


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Re: Bulk Substrate Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
    #2129716 - 11/22/03 11:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well when all was said and done I realize that the reason I was having uncolonized portions of substrate was overly wet substrate and chunks of poo which should have been more ground up. When pulling apart these pans I discovered in the overly wet ones that mycelium would fluff up on top however in the poo the poor mycelium was suffocated and drowned to death and as you all know leading to contamination. I have altered procedures so that my substrate is more fluffy and has proper moisture content.


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