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Bulk spawn question
    #967505 - 10/17/02 12:12 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I _have_ done a search for the information I will be requesting, so before y'all flame me, mellow a bit..  :wink:

Anyway.. I've gotten pretty good results with both PF cakes and casing crumbled cakes, as well as an outdoor patch that fruited fairly regularly from early august until just recently.. the one thing I haven't been doing is bulk substrates.

In reading most of the bulk logs, it appears that only rye or whole grains are used as spawn.. I'm wondering, couldn't one feasably just use crumbled BRF cakes in poo?  (Even if there are better options, this is my sole question.)

Thanks, and hopefully I'll get some pictures back from my outdoor patch so I can scan 'em and show 'em off :grin: 


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967515 - 10/17/02 12:17 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

yep, crubeled PF cakes work too.
Check Road's bulk poo tek.
It shows that u can.

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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: XiC_clone]
    #967586 - 10/17/02 12:53 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Cool, thanks Xic.  I remember reading that the first time around when Road posted it, didn't realize (or remember?) that he'd used BRF cakes in one.  Although those were casings and not really bulk.. I'll have to give it a shot.  :grin: 


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967687 - 10/17/02 01:30 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

You can use brf cakes, however you must remember that cakes are 75% vermeculite, and therefore they do not go as far as broken up grain, where most of the kernels will represent an "innoculation point" in your compost.


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967704 - 10/17/02 01:35 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

how much more bulk were you wanting to go?


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Shaw]
    #967715 - 10/17/02 01:39 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Maybe grow em off the fifth dimention? I saw a few good patches for P.cyans last time I was there.


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967739 - 10/17/02 01:51 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

In reply to:

Although those were casings and not really bulk.




Actually they were bulk substrate and not casings.....they had no casing layer.

Yes you can spawn BRF cakes ino the poo.
Either crumble it up or use a food processor.



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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Roadkill]
    #967935 - 10/17/02 03:06 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

My bad, I've been a bit sleep-deprived lately.. for some reason when I was writing the reply there I had gotten it into my head that they must've been casings because they weren't a huge boxful (bulk) of substrate.  Heh.  I goofed.

An' hey, I was wondering, since I know you'll be reading this.. did you ever get pictures of the final product from that particular grow?  I know someone else requested it in that thread but never got any.  I'd love to see 'em, your shrooms always make me jealous :grin: :wink:

Anywho, g'nite.. it's 3am in Gotham and I've got courses early tomorrow. 


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967939 - 10/17/02 03:08 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

3am!?!
Time to PC


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: angryshroom]
    #967955 - 10/17/02 03:14 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Y'know, that brings up another question I've been pondering.. I know you can do a grain to grain transfer after colonizing a jar, but could you do a grain to BRF transfer?  Or even a BRF to grain transfer?  (assuming the transferred bit is colonized..)  And if not, any idea why?  I can't think of a reason why scooping a lump of colonized grain into a grain container would be any less susceptable to contamination than scooping it into BRF, or the other way around.

Something for me to sleep on, if I can ever fall asleep. :tongue: 


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967959 - 10/17/02 03:15 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Honey water inocu would B easier.


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Re: Bulk spawn question [Re: XiC_clone]
    #967964 - 10/17/02 03:19 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

3am is a good time to PC, that way by 9 or 10 the jars are ready to innoc. Luckily I've got a 12-set of halfies (BRF/verm) at around 75-80%, so I don't need to do that t'nite.. besides, I'd wake up eveyone else in the house with the rickety old PC I've got.

I've been boiling my jars lately anyway, it's easier and I can fit more jars in my pot than my PC (it's rather tiny).


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Honey water innoc. [Re: XiC_clone]
    #967969 - 10/17/02 03:21 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I agree completely. Still kinda curious about the transfers, just for the hellavit.


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967977 - 10/17/02 03:28 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I dont see why it wouldnt work, but I gauge the chances of contams HIGHER that a simple inocu of honey water. Or just a regular inocu. Unless u have a flowhood, a good re-breather, steryle lab to work in, steryle tools, etc. Latta work, no?


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #967993 - 10/17/02 03:39 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Those types of transfers would work just fine.

Yeah, but the only problem is : a sterile envoirnment. Unless you have a flowhood, or a very sterile glovebox, it results in a very high contamination rate....still possible however  :crazy:


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: XiC_clone]
    #968021 - 10/17/02 03:52 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I wouldn't mind keeping my neighbors up at 3 (now almost 4) AM, but parents and a 12-yr=old sister might get a bit miffed..ah well.


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #968025 - 10/17/02 03:54 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

lucky me, I have a myco mom =)
And she can sleep like a brick

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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: XiC_clone]
    #968038 - 10/17/02 04:00 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

My wife doesn`t mind as long as she can hear the tv or sleep through it.
My neighbours couldn`t care less, plus my garden is 1000sqm so no-one here`s my pc.


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: XiC_clone]
    #968044 - 10/17/02 04:04 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Man, my parents are tres anal. You're damn lucky at that!

Derr- I live in your typical suburban nightmare, so any weird noise at 3am and we'd have phone calls from neighbors on four sides of the house!


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Re: Honey water innoc. [Re: angryshroom]
    #968049 - 10/17/02 04:05 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Score, that was the answer I was looking for.  Thanks!

BTW.. what's your avatar picture from?  It looks familiar, like from an N64 game or something.. :confused: 


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