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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
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The only person who has given me a straight answer about EZFelt is Spitball and I know he is still in the testing stage as well.  I do agree with him when he said two layers seems to be too much though.


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jcbowling1985 said:
"Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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i think i read something the other day saying that ez felt hasn't worked very well for folks. it doesn't allow enough fae. but i haven't tried it personally. maybe there is a balance. maybe on the top holes you put loose polyfil and the ez felt in the bottom holes.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
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Well we certainly haven't "dialed our polymag tubs in like a boss", have we...  I really would like to know because I have two tubs so far that depend on it.  Two days and I'll have one ready for casing...


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jcbowling1985 said:
"Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."

Edited by TheChief (08/29/14 05:42 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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Lack of FAE is my concern for 4 layers of ironed poly , too. I have some experiments going and the ez-felt may be too thick.

I've done a little digging on ez-felt, not much, but I can't tell how things were exactly set up for most posts I found. Like you said, eat, felt on bottom and loose poly on top? Fan in the room? These are subtleties that could make a big difference.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
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I agree.  Well, I'll be testing this one out for sure.  Make sure to keep a spare polyfill pillow handy for emergency.


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jcbowling1985 said:
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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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:solidnod:


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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with the tightness i stuff my bottom holes i would think a couple layers of the stiff easy felt would be fine. I would think that just one layer would allow too much airflow and dry out the sub. The idea of keeping loose poly on top holes is crucial and you should always have a fan in the room for circulation IMO(at least for monos and this experiment). I will be trying these out soon as well.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: tombosley8]
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I wasn't even aware of the loose top holes concept until now.  I was going to use the same on the top as the bottom, now I'm thinking I should do an intervention and make a change...


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jcbowling1985 said:
"Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."

Edited by TheChief (08/29/14 06:44 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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this would not work with them on the top i guarantee it. Maybe the really thin ez felt sheets :shrug: but poly works so good already it'll be hard to beat


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: tombosley8]
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Well polyfill is not so much a concern on the top as the bottom for me.  Most of the reason I like the idea of polymags on the bottom is because it doesn't get all up in the mushrooms, I saw one tub where a shroom was fused right into the poly.


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jcbowling1985 said:
"Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."

Edited by TheChief (08/29/14 06:52 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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Yeah i agree and as well as the act of just stuffing them. I liked the idea of pantyhose for the poly but then saw this. The thought of a simple magnet sounds so awesome. I can't wait to try it. :laugh:


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Edited by tombosley8 (08/29/14 07:09 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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TheChief said:
I wasn't even aware of the loose top holes concept until now.  I was going to use the same on the top as the bottom, now I'm thinking I should do an intervention and make a change...


If all else fails: How to dial in your monotubs like a boss


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
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SpitballJedi said:
Lack of FAE is my concern for 4 layers of ironed poly , too. I have some experiments going and the ez-felt may be too thick.

I've done a little digging on ez-felt, not much, but I can't tell how things were exactly set up for most posts I found. Like you said, eat, felt on bottom and loose poly on top? Fan in the room? These are subtleties that could make a big difference.


i was worried they would be too thick when i made them. but they seem to be working just fine right now for me. im running a stand up fan in the room pushing air up against the wall. this circulates the air around the backside of the tubs.  the top poly holes are in very loose and light. all 4 bottom holes are either 2 ply(tub 1) or 4 ply(tub 2) thick ironed filters. i also have a total of 4 top holes. one on each side of the bin. i also incubated in a room with no fan or shall i say steel storage cabinet with a closed door. it is in the fruiting room but the doors remain closed. also if maintenance is needed, the fan is turned off 30 minutes prior to going near those other incubating tubs. then when it came time to introduce the tubs to fruiting conditions they were set in the room with a ceiling fan. the fan crapped out after 2 days so i used a stand up fan the 3rd day.

also, usually i use all polyfil holes. but i stuff them all tight. then i incubate with the polyfil in the holes. when i introduce pinning conditions i loosen the top holes. but im not incubating in the room with air circulation so i don't need tape during incubation.


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Edited by eatyualive (08/29/14 07:18 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
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So, I guess I'll post this here before I post my first real grow thread...  I have gone Spitball by the book from my grain to my tubs (may the force be with me).

Currently, I have two tubs going.  One is B+ 66 qt spawned to CVG on Aug 25th.  The second is the same thing, except its PE spawned on the 26th.  Here are a few pics...

Polymags



B+ Progress.



PE. (what you are seeing on the tubs is my colonization magnets.  My EZFelt magnets are yet to be tested)



Polymag closeup



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jcbowling1985 said:
"Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."

Edited by TheChief (08/29/14 09:18 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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I love the magnet idea!

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
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TheChief said:
I found if you just trace the circle out, it can easily be cut with scissors just by starting a slice at the bottom of the square to the start of your tracing, then just cut the circle out.  The ones I use are very flexible and cutting a slit at the bottom doesn't effect functionality. 

The first time I tried to drill one out I completely destroyed it...  I don't know how Spit did it but he is one crazy guy.



I found that I started the drill and got the pilot hole going till the outside of the bit started to contact the magnet.  When that happened I reversed the drill and was able to get a smoother hole without tearing the magnet.

Hope that works for you.

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: sdm7001]
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ok so i built mine today. i found some useful tools. a circle cutter from a craft store. this brand is fiskars.



this stuff is very thin. i found out that you can simply score the magnet with an exacto blade and put the metal ruler over it and pull the rest apart. it doesn't cause any rough edges either.

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2. circle cutter


3.holes cut out


4. scored the magnet long ways and short ways. also if there is a small leftover strip i cut that off completely.


5.used the ruler to hold down the score and pulled apart long ways.


6.stacked em 3 ply. held the ruler down and pulled all apart in one pull.


7. done


8. rtv'd


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Edited by eatyualive (08/30/14 11:58 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
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That cutter is awesome!  I need one of those.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
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Nice job eatyualive.

I am going to have to get one of those cutters.  Fantastic ... love this community!!


http://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-93807097-Circle-Cutter-Replacement/dp/B0006HUJ0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409440092&sr=8-1&keywords=fiskars+circle+cutter#cm_cr_dpwidget

Edited by sdm7001 (08/30/14 05:10 PM)

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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: sdm7001]
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so i was all excited about to spawn two tubs. and when i tried putting the filter between the magnets. my filters are far too thick. the magnets won't hold them in place. im going to have to use poilyfil for now until i can make those filters thinner or find some ez felt. it sux the magnets are extremely weak for me. even when i turn them in 360 degree rotations to see if its stronger. the thickness of the filter won't even let the magnets get very close to each other at all. im going to have to fix the filters.... to be continued...

Edited by eatyualive (09/05/14 11:05 PM)

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