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***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded
    #1753089 - 07/27/03 01:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

This was all relayed to me by a canine, therefore I take no responsibility of how one wishes to use this.

The JFI or "Juggalo Floating Island" Tek is a variation on both the fruiting chamber, and casing method. The JFI tek was adapted from various techniques including Magesh's pod, and the 60/40 coir casing.
The show must go on:

We will be using a 122 Qt. Sterlie container. First cut a hole (5"x3")in the top (for light) cover with clear platic, use tape on the outside of the strelite container (Never the inside) to secure the plastic, then drill a 1/2" hole
near the top:



Next you will need to aquire both air tubing and a pump that will circulate a at least a 20 gallon aquarium. I like the one at Wal-Mart which can be purchased for about 10 bucks. "Aqua Culture" (20-60 Gallon Double Outlet Pump)

You will drill a 1/8" hole (may need to be drilled out a bit)
hole about 6" from the bottom of the sterlite to accomodate a syringe cap. You will then fit the tubing into the cap with a drop of superglue.



Next push the syringe cap/tubing through your hole and secure with with favorite product (i.e. silicone, liquid nails, ect.)
With you syringe cap in place, run your tubing around the diameter of your sterlite/terrarium. Use liquid nail/silicone to hold it in place.



Let it setup, and stuff your 1/2" hole with polyfill. This will allow for both a CO2 escape and an exit for your line to attach to you pump. (I like to soak my polyfill in alcohol prior to placing it.)
Now take a needle, and puncture several holes in the line. Exclude the places that secure your line:




Time to give her a little test. Fill with 1" of water and turn the pump on. If you had patience with hole poking she will bubble like this:




Now you will fill the bottom with perlite, don't forget the H2O2, and salt they are your friends :smile: 3cups H2O2 + 1/2 cup of salt evenly distributed.






Now you have a nice bubbley terrarium congrats :smile:

Now lets JFI case:

Useing 1/2 block Coco Coir, Pictured here:



Combine with approx. 4 cups of verm:



Mix to field capacity. It WILL take awhile for the coir to expand be patient. Microwave @ 5 minutes. Let rest for 2minutes. Repeat x 2.

Now add an extra 2 cups of (bottled)H20:



Then to the freezer:



Leave in the freezer for 2 hours, (you are putting steaming hot substrate in there) then take it out and it will have built up nice ice crystals like this:



Now put it in the fridge.

We will be working with 10 1/2 pint jars. Here there are 3 BRF and 7 popcorn. (one is missing in the pic):



Empty the jars into a Gallon ziplock bag, break up, and break out the water yet again I use 1 bottle of water (500ML):



Into the fridge for 1 hour.
We will be using large baking trays. These are: 13"x10"x3". They also come with a clear lid that will form your island for your casing to rest on. Fill the pan with 1" of your substrate (or 5 1/2 pints this tek will make two semi-large casings with 10 1/2 pints 5 pints per casing):




Now place the ice cold casing material on top approx 1/2" to 1":
(Be CLEAN! Use gloves and a mask, ect.)




Now take your clear plastic lids (that came with the trays) and swab them with alcohol then place them into the terrarium which will provide and island for your casing to stand on:



Close her up, wait, watch and anticipate:



This tek uses somewhat unorthodox methods. I.e. not letting the casing heal in the incubator, dunking for 1 hour, ect. But the results are beautiful. Basically the dawg doesn't want to hear how this can be imporoved as it varies from person to person. This is what has worked for him.

 

Umm can I put in the FAQ/Tek section?

-PD 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753114 - 07/27/03 01:54 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

its seems that u just want ur own "tek"

if u start labeling every procedure thats just slightly dif then aanother or just a combo oft two preexisting tekstheres nothing in it except for a title..

u must really want ur name in a tek

or no ur dogs name


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
    #1753124 - 07/27/03 01:57 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Um no, not really just trying to help. Don't flame me again, please.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753131 - 07/27/03 01:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

How long until results?


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753135 - 07/27/03 02:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Nice tek, I vote FAQ it.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #1753144 - 07/27/03 02:02 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean eater, till pins? It depends upon the casing I have waited 2 weeks before :smile: 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753163 - 07/27/03 02:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

BTW: nice tek It may not be a strict catholic tek but I'm sure it gets the job done!

Time until pin, Time until harvest. Thanks


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #1753221 - 07/27/03 02:34 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Time until pinning and harvest depend on the strain, and terrarium conditions.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1753308 - 07/27/03 03:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

hmmmm yeah your tek seem real good and will save you money on bubble walls(about$13 canadian) and I like how you have alot of pictures so people can see how it is done.

I give it:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1753326 - 07/27/03 03:06 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

very nice pitdawg


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1753401 - 07/27/03 03:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you Fallen and Monkey I appreciate it :smile: 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753502 - 07/27/03 04:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I like the hole poking idea a lot. I think I may try it the next time I clean out the terrarium. Nice Tek!


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: shakta]
    #1753519 - 07/27/03 04:27 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

no problem pitdawg:)

keep up the good work dawg:thumbup:

I'm going to need a new grow chamber soon and when I do I'll put your  "JFI tek" to good use man 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1753546 - 07/27/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Cool tek man, I say faq it. You still planning on leaving?


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1753587 - 07/27/03 04:53 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Well presented and nicely detailed, pitdawg. You obviously put some time into this post.  :thumbup: 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: dog]
    #1753624 - 07/27/03 05:09 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

yeah what dog said. GOOD JOB post like that are what its all about


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1753691 - 07/27/03 05:43 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

vote: FAQ


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #1753897 - 07/27/03 07:22 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't read it.
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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: MrSleep]
    #1754291 - 07/27/03 10:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

hey man thats a great tek, i just might be using that chamber in a few weeks


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ShroomBoarder]
    #1754350 - 07/27/03 10:51 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

ya whatever works for you I say go with it =D


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: whole9]
    #1764237 - 07/30/03 09:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Just built one. 2 words. Thanks Pitdawg.:cool:


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #1764325 - 07/30/03 09:40 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Very engineuative(spelling ? ) DAWG ! How long have you been running this setup ?
Any contam problems as of yet ?
Must you set it up new after each island is spent ? Or can you replace with new media after removing old , right away ? After time I would imagine that tubing failing due to salt deposits .
Very interesting ............ :cool: 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: tripndicular]
    #1764428 - 07/30/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey thats like a mushroom whirlpool. You better hope they dont pee in the water.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: tripndicular]
    #1767199 - 07/31/03 07:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

tripndicular said:
Very engineuative(spelling ? ) DAWG ! How long have you been running this setup ?
Any contam problems as of yet ?
Must you set it up new after each island is spent ? Or can you replace with new media after removing old , right away ? After time I would imagine that tubing failing due to salt deposits .
Very interesting ............ :cool:   




Myco, I hope you enjoy, would like to see a pic :smile:
Trip, Thank You. My Dawg has had no contam problems with this setup.
He also states that there is minimum upkeep involved unless you let them drop tons of spores. Tubing can be cleaned quite a few times before needing replacement. This is accomplished by drawing up bleach solution into a syringe and injecting it into the length of the tubing. Leave to soak , and the soultion will drain out of your holes. Then put the line in some fresh water and bubble it for an hour to remove excess solution. When it's time to clean the tubing, go ahead and zap your perlite in the micro for two 10 minute sessions. :smile: 


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #2263080 - 01/22/04 03:02 PM (20 years, 10 days ago)

hey does much humidity build up in your on the walls? just wondering cause the one my friend built has alot less then his normal perlite terrium.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #2263130 - 01/22/04 03:22 PM (20 years, 10 days ago)

what strain did u use, looks familiar to my friends?


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #2263143 - 01/22/04 03:25 PM (20 years, 10 days ago)

Nice1 I rikey! Why not add more perlite to take full advantage of it wicking capability? Seems like it's floating, covered mostly in water, which I figure means it's not wicking THAT much humidity into the air. Nice tek still, thanks for your hard work and contribution.



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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: whole9]
    #2263414 - 01/22/04 05:14 PM (20 years, 10 days ago)

definitly kool


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: simplemachine]
    #2264247 - 01/22/04 09:38 PM (20 years, 10 days ago)

my friends jfi chambers perlite isnt soupy or anything, ive just noticed that compared to the standard fan/mist terrium it has alot less condensation on the walls. I cant give an honest answer if this is a problem or not because my friend just put his casing in the tank.
Anyone else built one of this?


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: whole9]
    #2265309 - 01/23/04 09:36 AM (20 years, 9 days ago)

ya this is a bomb as tek right here, its the same as the poor mans pod without the bubble walls, i love this idea. im sure ill throw together something of this design together for a friend to do some cakes as it is a really good design.


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: ]
    #2265980 - 01/23/04 02:18 PM (20 years, 9 days ago)

Does this pump setup make it unecessary to fan and mist? Does it provide enough CO2 transfer to be considered automated? If so, I'm going out and building this right now. I've been trying to find a way to automate my casing terrarium without having to use fanning or a coolmist. Hope this gets put up on the FAQ!


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: BoulderBoomer]
    #2266343 - 01/23/04 03:58 PM (20 years, 9 days ago)

^^^^^It's how I automated my system!


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: simplemachine]
    #2266818 - 01/23/04 07:30 PM (20 years, 9 days ago)

so can you answer my question then about the humidity build up? does enought build up to be seen on the walls and lid or does the setup keep everything aired out nicely so that the humidity is just in the air?


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: closedeyestare]
    #2266827 - 01/23/04 07:39 PM (20 years, 9 days ago)

the water "build up" on the walls, is because the wall's temp is < the dew point of the inside air, it doesnt have to do with the humidity being "just in the air".


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Re: ***The JFI TEK*** Pic inculded [Re: closedeyestare]
    #2266956 - 01/23/04 09:04 PM (20 years, 9 days ago)

^^^right. I can't really help you closedeyestare...I don't have a JFI thingy. Just perlite and air pumps :grin:

 


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