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Offlineentiformatie
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san pedro cactus
    #2048484 - 10/27/03 10:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so i've looked around for this, but i can't find it. i think i might have even asked a long time ago.

can i order some rooted san pedro online and just eat it? what about the cuttings? i'll be growing my own if it agrees with me. i did read that an ounce of the skin was a good experience. so what if i order a pound and a half of rooted cactus, or 4 pounds of cuttings? can i make a tea, stick em in a grinder, chew em, anything please?

i know this may come off as a lil ignorant, but i find NOTHING on the preperation of mescaline


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: entiformatie]
    #2048496 - 10/27/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: John]
    #2048872 - 10/27/03 11:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I ordered some san pedro's trimmed em salted em and ate them up. First time got Mild buzz nothing special. 2nd time ate a bit more tripped moderately but really felt like crap next day. Personally don't like it. Same experiences with HBWR seeds. ADVICE= GROW SHROOMS!
GL mate.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: DeeBo]
    #2048893 - 10/27/03 11:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

DeeBo - hey you didn't do mescaline right then.  mescaline is a great chemical to use. the indians have used it for centuries to heal and become one themselves.  It can be uses to treat addictions too.  Mescaline contains much more helpful things that shrooms will ever possess.  I love my shrooms but I don't look for help from them.  Mescaline is the way to go. :smile:

that was a rant, soryy. :smirk:  I am just a big fan of mescaline and its benifits. :smile:

anywho,
I make a tea. 12" inch cutting should do.  search in ODD for mescaline or san pedro tea. you should get some info. I posted a website in one of thoses threads.. its a great method to prepare it. :smile:  just pm me if you need it.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: ]
    #2049036 - 10/28/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thank you very much :-)

yea, i did check out erowid, but it doesnt really mention what i'm looking for, although it did help, so thank you.

and from what i've heard of mescaline, it is DEFINITELY worth all the effort I could ever put into it.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: entiformatie]
    #2049056 - 10/28/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what are you looking for that erowid didnt have? im curious, really


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Infrared]
    #2049109 - 10/28/03 01:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He wants to buy on from Lowes. He just need the word Lowes.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2049805 - 10/28/03 07:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lowes






























naaah...
well, sometimes, but how do ya really know for sure...
:wink:
(they didn't ask questions like that in 1776... no, in 1776 they were too busy to ask questions like this... too busy singing SONGS like this:
yankee doodle came to terms
citing martin buber
stuck a fuhrer in the back
and called him shicklegruber
....)
where were we?
oh, yeah, cactus...
some chain stores sometimes sell Trichocereus pachanoi...
it is a common catus for doing grafts onto...
but the ones in the big chain stores may not be labeled...
there are cactus vedors who sell all sorts of cactus incl T pachanoi...
and there are some that specialize in Trichos...
and there are a few companies that sell dried cactus flesh slices (for potpurris, no doubt...)
i wanna make cactus flower perfume/ointment for magickal purposes :wink: ...


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: gnrm23]
    #2049818 - 10/28/03 07:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well there is one place that sells bulk dryed cacti material for none internal use. If you want the address e-mail or pm me or something.
I dont think that place is much of a secret anyways.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: EvilGir]
    #2049944 - 10/28/03 09:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The Journal called Entheos is taking over the Rosetta Stone Journal and will soon be publisheing my Method for Western Shamanic Praactioners Methods of Preparation.

By the way, San Pedro is never eaten (Apparently you must be the second pwerson in history to eat some, the first being the person who discovered its special properties).

It takes over one pound or more to be the equivalent of 300-500 milligrams of mescaline sulfate and is made into a Drink by the Peruvian Indians who know it as Chimora.

That is the equivalent of 4 to 6 buttons of Peyotl.

Have a shroomy day.

Bouncing Bear Botanicals advertises here so you might want to check out their site for garden plants and decorative cactus. The San pedro is famous for grafting. You can graft any cactus to the top of a san pedro which will not normallly survive out of its naturall habitat and it will grow on the top of the san pedro.
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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: ]
    #2050219 - 10/28/03 12:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How's it going my mescaline friend?

I just have one thing to mention about your post. Suggesting dosage of san pedro cactus in inches is really not the way to go. I have at this moment a san pedro that is over two feet tall, but only 1.5" in diameter. Judging doses this way is like an industry standard as far as cactus goes but it is really flawed. We need to start going by weight.

Do you ever get that feeling, where you're not.......Oh wait that's your line. Take it easy Zero.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2050305 - 10/28/03 01:29 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol,  I am doing great my cati friend.

yeah sorry ekstaza. I forgot to mention that for a 12 inch cutting should be about 3-4 inchs in diameter. thats a good dose.
I wish there was a better way to judge it.  The only sure way is to make a A/B extraction on the cati and find out the mescaline content of the cati.  mescaline varies to much in san pedro and P. torch.  There is so little research so far, but alex shuglin is doing a study on all mescaline bearing cati.  I can't wait to read it.  He even has talked about a similar chemical like mescaline the called methoy-mescaline.  And its legal to consume(so far). I belive thats the way its spelled. but I could be wrong. 

mescaline the only way to fly. :smile: hehe

ekstaza - I have been watching the matrix like 50 times this week.  I am getting ready for the 3rd installment of the matrix trilogy. :smile:


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2050507 - 10/28/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hi here are four images of my up and coming article on the Western Shamanic Preparation of San Pedro Cacti According to the Gospel of Se?or Pedro.

These are four images, the first two show two differnet pachanoi's both weighing exactly 1 and 1/4 pound each. The high which I bioassayed was the equivalent of at least between 400 to 500 milligrams of pharmaceutical mescaline, sometihing which I have a had at least a dozen times in my life as a researcher of psychoactive plants and such.

You will notice the difference in their perspective sizes to each other yet both were of equal strength based on their total weight.

Here is some of the equiptment used in the prepapration of this cacti. The picture is from a rubbing in Peru of the San Pedro









Sorry but I cannot post the other 20 images in the preparation process.

mj


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: entiformatie]
    #2050554 - 10/28/03 02:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'd buy the smallest peice of san pedro you can find and try the taste of san pedro tea before you spend too much money on it. It's highly likely one mouthful will put you off the idea for good.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Xlea321]
    #2050582 - 10/28/03 02:41 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What about if one purchases dried san pedro or peruvian torch? What is the best way for ingestion and what is a recommended dosage. I have found a couple of sites which generally sell an ounce for $20-25. Seems like the easier way to prepare and ingest...


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Poopman]
    #2050598 - 10/28/03 02:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that's the best way to go, it doesn't make the tea taste any sweeter tho.

Powdered and capsuled peruvian torch put me on my back with the worst nausea of my life for 2 solid days. The tea also causes tremendous nausea that tends to ruin the trip - no matter how much "filtering" I do. You might have an easier time however - people tend to vary with cacti nausea.

It's worth mentioning that taken rectally there's zero nausea.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Xlea321]
    #2050622 - 10/28/03 02:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
It's worth mentioning that taken rectally there's zero nausea.




Maybe, but who really wants to plug that much cactus up their ass. Even in enema form I believe it would be uncomfortable and gross at best.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2050650 - 10/28/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

im curious as to why you say you cant eat san pedro? i've read of people who have, but i dont understand if you can just cut it up and eat it? do you cut the tips (i can chose between tips and center, i should pick tips right?), and eat em?

well, i was looking for dosage info based on weight/size. also, how i could eat the cactus. i prefer not making a tea, because i don't have the means to do that right now. i read occasionally about cutting out the spines, and then cutting out the ridges, and skinning them, or something similar, but i dont relly get it.l..


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2052678 - 10/29/03 03:19 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe, but who really wants to plug that much cactus up their ass. Even in enema form I believe it would be uncomfortable and gross at best.

Boiled down to 50-100ml it really isn't that big a deal. The difference between spending 6-8 hours of the trip bent over the toilet bowl or eating a full meal and going out hiking probably outweighs the grossness of it. Depends on the person and how much they enjoy nausea I guess.


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Re: san pedro cactus [Re: entiformatie]
    #2052752 - 10/29/03 03:49 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

trust me!!!! don't eat the catus... you will reget it. I have never read or ever heard of a good time by eating it. there is to much matter. stomach aches hurt like crazy.. With tea they only last for the first hour, after that its smooth sailing.



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