azur said:

Though you may not need to shower, you should. You don't need to wipe your ass if you shit just before a shower, you should still wipe.

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Jman420 said:

The point is, if you are using an SAB with gloves and alcohol and disinfectant spray, you don't need to take a shower or wash your hands or be in a completely sterile environment with a flow hood running.

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wowimflabbergasted said:

Jman420 said:

The point is, if you are using an SAB with gloves and alcohol and disinfectant spray, you don't need to take a shower or wash your hands or be in a completely sterile environment with a flow hood running.

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The point is you shouldn't be advising shitty sterile technique in a "Noob Tek". And just because 1 persons grow was amazing without proper lighting doesn't prove shit.

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Right... a 22k flush doesn't prove shit...as if she hasn't done it more than once...as if she is the only one alone who doesn't use "proper lighting".

Again its not shitty sterile techniques if it works.. Its all about personal preference and results.

My results say otherwise to it being shitty. If people find that doing it my way doesn't work for them, I'm sure they are more then capable of taking a shower and setting up their work space in a closet instead of a bathroom.

AGAIN THAT WASN'T THE POINT. If you don't have enough common sense to not work in your bathroom if you have the space to do so, then you shouldn't be growing in the first place.

I am limited on space and my bathroom works perfect for me.

Edit: Also she is not just a/one person, Hippiechick is a TC and has a lot more credibility then what half the noobs have posted here on lighting and other hoobla.

Jman420 said:

Also to all of those who really think lighting is that important, its not... at all, Sure you need and should have lights, but anything past that is a bunch of hoobla, personal preference.

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azur said:

HippieChick got busted a few years back. Then "she" signed on a few months ago. Be wary.

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Inocuole said:

Please don't be like this guy and try to say that because something works for you that it's a good idea or other people should do it. 

I bet you would still get better results if you didn't do it in open air. 

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azur said:

HippieChick got busted a few years back. Then "she" signed on a few months ago. Be wary.

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Good to know, ty

Though I honestly haven't keep up with her in a couple years, I was just referring her work that I remember.

Inocuole said:

There's a best way to cultivate mushrooms.

There are precautions you can take, and you're saying that no, you don't have to take them if you don't want.  You're not the one combating the ridiculous shit people post here every day, so don't contribute to it and then expect us to congratulate you.

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Inocuole said:

Okay you're twisting this around and it's getting old.  I said in an earlier post that I don't shower prior either.  That's besides the point but I'm also not creating a thread labeled as a "tek" and then saying, from an influential position as the author of said "tek" that you don't have to do that shit.  Just leave it out, just don't say anything about it if you're going to glamorize cutting corners.

Let people make their own mistakes as a direct choice to deviate from proper procedure, not because they read it and it sounded legit from the get go.

If you don't understand why that's a problem then I can't help you understand.

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I wouldn't be bringing it up if others didn't

I'm not going to let others fill this with information that isn't true/needed to yet again swaying the opinions of how people should go about things, thats why I was saying what I said.

Inocuole said:

Okay but I didn't attack you about that, I realize you're on the defensive and for good reason, but I'm really just trying to help share a perspective.

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You were talking about lighting..

What I was getting at is that people are saying you need a specific spectrum/yata yata which isn't true at all.

What I meant to say was, sure you need lights but this isn't like growing marijuana where your plants need different lighting spectrums for budding and vegetation. Its mushrooms, they grow in caves.. Lighting is all personal preference and I have seen amazing results come from both sides.  I was just demonstrating what lights I use and how effective they are.

Edit : Yea sorry. I've been in defensive mode for a while now. Trying to tone it down

My overall point is all of these people keep dropping in throwing in their arbitrary opinions based on their experience. From my experience and couple of years of growing, My tek is what I have come up with and it seems to work great for me.

blackdust said:

Thats correct. Not everybody has the $ on all the best equipment. I am letting people know that cutting corners or resources can still bear fruits. Many fruits. Fuck, bet could still get results without a pc.

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True dat, not every has the money and even people who do have money still don't always have access to all the same resources you do.

My tek was designed to show people what works for me and how much it cost. It was designed to be simple and to the point to where people can bear results without wasting all of their effort and time. It was designed to show people how to get a couple ounces for their work rather than a couple grams, which is what I see a lot of.

So forgive me if I come off as an asshole when other people are telling me what to do and how to go about doing it.

I'm simply trying to help those of us who are less fortunate.

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MastaBlastar said:

DAYMN.  Someone riding a high horse with one good flush.  You are propagating not only bad growing skills, bud just bad life skills.  people SHOULD WASH THEIR HANDS REGULARLY.  Regardless.  I wash my hands like 8-9 times a day just because i don't want to transfer crap from everything I touch to everything else I touch.  I get free betadine surgical wash so I use that.  Germicidal and virucidal.

You can do shit in a bathroom,   I think it has been clear this is not a good tek to follow.  You got one mediocre flush and are BAMMIN it like you are emmril. Its ok, I remember when i had my first beer. 

ALSO, I have 2 of those 23 qt prestos, AND THEY SUCK FUCKING COCK.  Never EVER recommend a presto to ANYONE except as a "well if you can't afford a good pc, this will work".  They are the cheapest, shittiest pc of the lowest quality construction and add on the fact that with regular use you will go thru rings and seals every 6 mos or so, and they are barely fit to do grandmas canning once a year. 

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I personally loved my  23q presto when I had one.

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They are pieces of shit.  If you look at them, they are poorly made and are full of all sorts of anomalies, hence why they use gaskets.  They cannot machine them well enough to have a metal on metal seal.  They warp, the handles suck, I have gone thru 2 gauges on one, no idea why.  I do absolutely nothing different and 2 have just broken.  They are made in the USA, but they are CHINA quality.  The gaskets wear out and eventually no matter what they atart to leak because the whole pot warps.  Is that enough reason?  Sure they work, but I would never be like "hey get one of these, they are awesome."

And JMAn I am sure its not your first good flush, but I have seen no images of any "good" flushes in any of the pics you have posted, the one you have shown being the first ok one of the lot.  A GOOD flush is a FULL canopy BEFORE they start to spore out (i harvest before the veil tears) with MINMAL OR NO ABORTS. If you can accomplish those 3 conditions, then snap a pic and post it as a good flush.  Also, you lack of good flushes COULD be the result of bac which COULD be a result of not washing your fucking hands.  I mean you transfer whatever is on your hands to the gloves you are putting on, I don't care how neatly you do it.  Washing your hands removes the vast majority of those contaminants.  its all about a numbers game and you are not giving good advice.  You should encourage hand washing at all steps, not a blase approach of "eeeeagh, hand washing is not needed, its all kosher.  I get sweaty as fuck and then come in and nock up some jars."  Unless this is the bike you ride.