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Offlinegoldenora
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PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives?
    #1403327 - 03/23/03 02:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hello everyone! im hoping everyone is having a pleasant sunday evening...

im a noob here, and a noob to mushrooms... im not really sure how much the PF Tek can yield, plus i dont know how much space ill need for birthing cakes... that brings me to my question...

i have two spare 5 gal buckets i bought at the Home De Pot and never used them... i was wondering if i could use these as my terarriums, and how would u guys suggest i keep from directly misting the cakes???

also how much space should each cake have to fruit?? ill be using half pint jars as i have alot of half pint pub glasses...

im basically following the PF Tek for Simple Minds as i have the materials used in that tek...

does it matter that i also have a shitload of Pint jars would it be better to use these??

ohh... one more... for how long can i keep a half used syringe?? i feel that i wont be able to inoc more than 4 half pint jars with my limited space i would like to keep the syringe but not sure of how long it will be viable...

thank you all!


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: goldenora]
    #1403387 - 03/23/03 02:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i cant really help u out for your other questions.. but your half used syringe will be fine.. just keep it stored in a nice cool place and it should last for a long time.


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: GWAR]
    #1403599 - 03/23/03 03:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

the pint jars will take longer to be taken over by mycelium, the monkey's took quite awhile, he's pretty new to this, preparing for his first harvest he is, what a lucky monkey, he wants me to tell you that it's a great feeling to see your work pay off finally, be careful tho, be as sterile as possible, it will save you the agony of wondering if things are going wrong, at least to some degree. i cant help with much else,


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: goldenora]
    #1403640 - 03/23/03 04:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The only reason people use 1/2 pint jars is because they can get a full colonization of the jar quickly. If you use pint jars you will have to inoc less, but it will take a while before you can birth them out of the jars. I use a 30 gallon tub as my terr. 5 gal seems like a very small amount. I would go out and buy something 10 - 25 gal if i were you. Oh, and you really dont need a spray shield if you CASE your CAKES, and add a little perilite at the bottom. If you have any additional questions, feel free to PM me.
PS - You can keep your syringe for about a month if it is kept cold.


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: LockNTross]
    #1403688 - 03/23/03 04:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

the idea behind the 5 gal buckets was to put them to use... but i was thinking maybe 2-3 cakes per bucket hoping for 4 per bucket? about 8 cakes is one syringe no?

how many cakes per syringe??

also im ordering from TLG and he offers a free strain (forget which) i will need to inoc this one as well because it will get bad after the month no??


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: goldenora]
    #1403705 - 03/23/03 04:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The only reason I think it would be bad to use the 5 gallon buckets is because you will have to mess with several different buckets each day, instead of just one. If your looking to put them to use, then this is fine. I just find it easier to deal with one, you do have to air them out, mist them, check the temp, and such everyday.

But the humidity is a big problem. Lemmie snap some pictures of my setup so I can cite that as an example...1 sec


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: goldenora]
    #1403748 - 03/23/03 04:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok,
Here is the general overview of a random Terr I found on the internet :wink:


As you can see there is a shitload (1 - 2 in) of perilite at the bottom of the tub. This helps catch any water that drips as you mist and also raises the humidity of the terr itself. You can find more indepth information about this at: http://www.shroomery.org/findorgrowthem.php?View=humidify

The wire mesh 1 in above the perilite is to keep the cake itself off the perilite because that stuff gets all messy when it is wet, plus you dont want your cake soaking up all the water.

The item behind the bare cake is what is known as a shitty casing. It was made with some plastic and ducktape. Basicaly what this does is insulates your PF cakes so that they dont have a hummidity problem.

Zoomed view:


More information about Casings can be found at: http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3288

Oh, and most terrariums use a drip shield. This basicaly makes it so no water falls ontop of your cakes and casing. Only the overall humidity reaches them.
Here is a fab pic, also featuring a random cat that LOVES shrooms.


I hope this helps. 


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: LockNTross]
    #1403764 - 03/23/03 04:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

haha, everytime my friend goes to fan his shrooms, his cat practivly jumps in the terrarium.
about the questions, anything is a potential terrarium, i mean i know my friend has a drip of water on his cakes every once in a while, it doesnt bother them too much. its more imortant not to get water on pins and shroomies. great luck and keep us posted on your first grow.


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: mike]
    #1403926 - 03/23/03 06:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for taking the time and the visuals!

i understand now, the maintenance of two buckets doesnt bother me much i may change my mind, seems like a good way to messup as a beginer or become better as a first time grower... but i still have some un-answered questions...

how many cakes per syringe?

how much space should each cake have?

if i have two syringes and only use one by when should i use the second one?

*this just popped into my head* how long will dried shrooms stay edible?

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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: goldenora]
    #1404148 - 03/23/03 07:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

>> how many cakes per syringe? <<
It depends on how many spores you inject. Most syringes have 10cc's. I suggest to inject 1.36cc's per jar. If you are using jars with 4 inoc holes in them you should inject 1.36/4=0.34 or little bit more than a quarter of a cc per hole. These #'s are for 1/2 pint jars, if you do plan on using bigger jars you should expect them to colonize a bit slower than normal.

>>how much space should each cake have?<<
The circumference of most 1/2 pint jars is about 3in. The widest I have ever seen a shroom grow out was about 3in. HOWEVER if you use casings (which I suggest) you decide on the size of the casing.

>>if i have two syringes and only use one by when should i use the second one?<<
The second one should be used in about 15-30 days of the 1st. I can't tell you to much about how long they will last, but I have read it was about 30 days. I've never refrigerated one that long, but I'm sure it will last. Just try and use it as soon as you can make room.

>>how long will dried shrooms stay edible?<<
To tell you the truth I couldn?t tell you. I would assume a very long time (months). The whole point of drying them out is to make sure no mold can form on the mushrooms themselves, so you don?t have to refrigerate them constantly.

Good luck! The shroomery is here if you need any help.


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Re: PF Tek Terrarium Alternatives? [Re: LockNTross]
    #1404178 - 03/23/03 07:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

great information! i have much to learn... i thought this would be a quick job but its much more interesting than i originally thought... hehe... you dont know it LockNTross but you have got me hooked...

i read through the cassing info... im definitley going case and ill be using a bigger container... i will be casing with the vermiculate tek... simple enough for a newbie...

i also want to look into medicinal/gourmet shrooms hehehe... 2-3 terarriums take the same space up when stacked...

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