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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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:lol: Is THIS the thread you are talking about? Think ya'll need to:gethigh:


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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oh yeah you should add the pics of your bulk trays and dub tubs to the OP or tek so you get them sucked in quick. That always did it for me.
Truthfully i'm not being sarcastic and i hope you take into mind all i said before I think it's a good start and is only open to improvements thanks for contributing:whathesaid:


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: tombosley8]
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My bad wrong thread!! I'm on my phone n I could only see what I was typing... :crazy2:


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inactivating grain spawn thanks to Quexl what it should and shouldn't look like start to finish and everything you can think of pics how frank gets shit done list to all of franks shit

Edited by Filthschwein (08/16/14 04:24 AM)

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Filthschwein]
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truly i'm not trying to discourage anyone or scare you away just felt like i was the only one who was going to point those details out instead of just talking shit. Seems you both have chilled out so let's get on with it and continue to SUPPORT this community    thank you Shroomery

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Jman420]
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Jman420 said:
Yep perfect example blackdust. You don't see that kind of fruiting with PF tek.. Cakes blow and have the same contamination rate as anything else...If you do everything to a T and don't skip out on important sterile steps..It should be no problem. :grin:

I'm tired of seeing all these noobs put all their work and effort into cakes, and getting piss poor results of harvests that yield like 5gs dry.



SO much this.  I was that noob once, and every PF tek I see going I tell them to stop messing around with garbage and go real, go bulk.  I honestly think PF Tek needs to be done away with, as its out dated.  It's like you can use a hand trowel to til a garden, but a gas powered tiller gets it done better in a lot less time.


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: MastaBlastar]
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well, I have to disagree. on both aspects.

syringe to cake seems to have some magic thing going where it does not contam.
syringe to grain on the other hand.. not so much.

and if you complain about yields you're doing something wrong.
The SE is filled with good tips on how to get max out of cakes. "fahtster". look him up!

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: spacechildo]
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spacechildo said:
well, I have to disagree. on both aspects.

syringe to cake seems to have some magic thing going where it does not contam.
syringe to grain on the other hand.. not so much.

and if you complain about yields you're doing something wrong.
The SE is filled with good tips on how to get max out of cakes. "fahtster". look him up!



Listen to what he's saying.
I quit cakes a decade ago. But I had some impressive shit a time or two. And fahster, his cakes destroy most noobs jman420's tubs.
Where you be OP?


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: azur]
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azur said:
spacechildo said:
well, I have to disagree. on both aspects.

syringe to cake seems to have some magic thing going where it does not contam.
syringe to grain on the other hand.. not so much.

and if you complain about yields you're doing something wrong.
The SE is filled with good tips on how to get max out of cakes. "fahtster". look him up!



Listen to what he's saying.
I quit cakes a decade ago. But I had some impressive shit a time or two. And fahster, his cakes destroy most noobs jman420's tubs.
Where you be OP?



I have a life...I like to hang out with my friends and my GF.. I like to get out and ride my bike for hours a day...I actually have a life that involves  enjoying it and helping others...Unlike cocky douche bags like you.

Anyway to shut you the hell up again.



Not even isolated...Take from the first cloned petri dish and put into fruiting. Eat it.



New stuff coming in.

Anyways I'm ignorning all the trolls now and just letting my results speak for themself.


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Jman420]
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tombosley8 said:
I am going to go ahead and give credit where it's due. You definitely break down supplies and costs and where to get them pretty thoroughly. And give a pretty good outlook on the entire process.  BUT!!!!!,
I think you should not recommend RR RYE tek to noobs for wbs as it will end up oversaturated and bursting grains. So far Spitball jed and Frank have the best Wbs teks and both never allow to boil and jedi doesn't even simmer. I have over simmered my wbs too many times as a noob and has caused a lot of problems for me. Since a SAB is so important you should at least give a link: SAB As you had no problem giving links in the rest of the post. You shouldN'T have to "water" your tubs before the first flush. Coir/verm/gypsum do not need proper pasteurization. You called TL TC. You should recommend sanding the plastic jar lids so the silicon will stick longer. I always have water touching the bottom of my jars at the beginning of the pc cycle with no problems. I use about 2 qts per pc cycle maybe a little more. I have that same pc and i fit 10 qt jars at a time. You should cover tops of jars with foil (I know this is debatable  with sfd's but i had issues not) or at least recommend it but maybe raising the jars as you did compensated for that. Shaking the jars while hot has seemed to help a lot for redistributing the condensation while cooling(that's debatable too). Though I have done it, You shouldn't reccomend doing sterile work in a bathroom. That contradicts itself. You really need to emphasize the necessity of sterile work and your process of it. You don't even reccommend taking a shower, washing your hands? Your spawn ratio is a bit high but that's preference i guess. 1.5/1 is plenty IMO.  You should at least recommend the correct spectrum of light (6500k). Any spray bottle will work pretty much but not needed untill after first flush, unless your doing it wrong. You should give more info on agar and links to it as it is so important and beneficial. You don't go into much detail about how to inoculate anything whether its ms to grain or agar or g2g. You just say do it. A noob will fail miserably at this step without the proper guidance.

So newbs if you want a good guide to get started growing monotubs check this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19792837
and come back to this page when you need to figure out where to get your supplies and how much it will be. Also There is some good info here as well and should be viewed as another man's way of doing itbut as a for all noob tek, NO. There is much more i didn't list in the tek that can lead many noobs astray. oh yeah thought of another. You say it should be set and forget but then you say mist and fan 2 times a day. that's how a SGFC is dealt with well maybe another misting too. Monotubs create their own humidity and natural evaporation to create wonderful pinsets when dialed in correctly. Yes it can help if you don't have air circulation or your tub is too dry for some reason, but should not be recommended as a practice for monotubs. Thjat's not what they are designed for. That should be stressed here. I may be back for more so stay tuned......:pipesmoke:



This is all based off of your personal experience...Most of this has nothing to do with getting actual results.

1. RR teks for WBS works fine for me. 6+3=9 and so does 5+4. Your method isn't always the correct one, try to see things from other people's point of view.
2.Yea I should have linked an SAB tek, but they are easy to find so I didn't.
3. I know you shouldn't have to, I said sometimes you may have to.. And you should always properly pasteurize everything if you have time..
4. Foil isn't needed, I've never used foil ontop of my jars. I've never sanded down my lids either, I just take scissors and cut off the excess (which I would assume would be common sense to most)
5. I know I shouldn't recommended doing sterile work in a bathroom, I was simply demonstrating that with the right sterile techniques, it shouldn't matter where you are working.
6. Taking a shower and washing your hands isn't needed even in the slightest...I've gone out for a 3 hour bike ride and come back to work on petri dishes in my bathroom. Having no issues.
7. Lighting isn't all that important...Lighting spectrum isn't needed either. Check out Hippiechicks grows if you think that I am wrong..She uses an overhead ceiling light and gets 21000g flushes.
8. I already stated that you shouldn't have to water your tubs, but sometimes might have to.
9.Agar is more advance and only people with a genuine intrest in cultivation should take it up. This is a tek for noobs, not advanced growers.
10. Inoculation process shouldn't be that difficult.. I did explain what to do, flame sterilize your needle every time... or your scalpal..Its pretty simple.

As for having the same pressure cooker and doing things differently. Congrats. I was simply showing people how I use my pressure cooker and what my results are. Your way is no more better than mine. Doing things your way have also shown to have an increased contamination rate and cracked jar rate. I like doing things my way, I don't really need to be doing 20 jars at a time, 14 is perfect for me.

So if you are done giving your personal opinion based on arbitrary results and hijacking my thread to link other people's, I would like to move on.

I stated that this is a tek for Newbs, meaning people who are just starting and want to see some results.

I didn't say that this is an advance tek for experienced growers guaranteed to give you a 10lb flush for you first go around. Most people are happy if they get an ounce for their first go.

This is a simple tek, based on giving simple instructions, to in turn receive simple results.

NOTHING MORE. I do however appreciate the input, and I will go back to look at my tek to see what I feel needs improving.


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Edited by Jman420 (08/17/14 12:22 PM)

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Jman420]
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Jman420 said:
azur said:
spacechildo said:
well, I have to disagree. on both aspects.

syringe to cake seems to have some magic thing going where it does not contam.
syringe to grain on the other hand.. not so much.

and if you complain about yields you're doing something wrong.
The SE is filled with good tips on how to get max out of cakes. "fahtster". look him up!



Listen to what he's saying.
I quit cakes a decade ago. But I had some impressive shit a time or two. And fahster, his cakes destroy most noobs jman420's tubs.
Where you be OP?



I have a life...I like to hang out with my friends and my GF.. I like to get out and ride my bike for hours a day...I actually have a life that involves  enjoying it and helping others...Unlike cocky douche bags like you.

Anyway to shut you the hell up again.



Not even isolated...Take from the first cloned petri dish and put into fruiting. Eat it.



New stuff coming in.

Anyways I'm ignorning all the trolls now and just letting my results speak for themself.



Looking good.


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: azur]
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i love this pic porn

:showerscene:

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: azur]
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azur said:
Looking good.



Look at you, being nice.

TBH I'd call it looking okay, at best.  :shrug:


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Jman420]
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Jman420 said:
5. I know I shouldn't recommended doing sterile work in a bathroom, I was simply demonstrating that with the right sterile techniques, it shouldn't matter where you are working.
6. Taking a shower and washing your hands isn't needed even in the slightest...



Why would you even say that?

Quote:
7. Lighting isn't all that important...Lighting spectrum isn't needed either.



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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
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wowimflabbergasted said:
Jman420 said:
5. I know I shouldn't recommended doing sterile work in a bathroom, I was simply demonstrating that with the right sterile techniques, it shouldn't matter where you are working.
6. Taking a shower and washing your hands isn't needed even in the slightest...



Why would you even say that?

Quote:
7. Lighting isn't all that important...Lighting spectrum isn't needed either.



:confused:




1. I don't wash my hands or shower before sterile work, personally.  The gloves I have are elbow length and I rinse them in iso, so no part of my body ever goes in the SAB, and I work pretty quick.  :shrug:  That said I would never tell anyone else not to wash their hands because I can't know their situations or techniques.  It certainly does help, so saying it's not needed in the slightest is farce.

2. Lighting is ALL that important, and spectrum is the most important factor of all.


So yeah:  :confused:


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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: Jman420]
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Jman420 said:
azur said:
spacechildo said:
well, I have to disagree. on both aspects.

syringe to cake seems to have some magic thing going where it does not contam.
syringe to grain on the other hand.. not so much.

and if you complain about yields you're doing something wrong.
The SE is filled with good tips on how to get max out of cakes. "fahtster". look him up!



Listen to what he's saying.
I quit cakes a decade ago. But I had some impressive shit a time or two. And fahster, his cakes destroy most noobs jman420's tubs.
Where you be OP?



I actually have a life that involves  enjoying it and helping others...Unlike cocky douche bags like you.





Anyway to shut you the hell up again.




Eat it.



Anyways I'm ignorning all the trolls now



what's the first sign of someone trolling?

-they call you the troll

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: spacechildo]
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DAYMN.  Someone riding a high horse with one good flush.  You are propagating not only bad growing skills, bud just bad life skills.  people SHOULD WASH THEIR HANDS REGULARLY.  Regardless.  I wash my hands like 8-9 times a day just because i don't want to transfer crap from everything I touch to everything else I touch.  I get free betadine surgical wash so I use that.  Germicidal and virucidal.

You can do shit in a bathroom, :knowwhatnevermind:  I think it has been clear this is not a good tek to follow.  You got one mediocre flush and are BAMMIN it like you are emmril. Its ok, I remember when i had my first beer. 

ALSO, I have 2 of those 23 qt prestos, AND THEY SUCK FUCKING COCK.  Never EVER recommend a presto to ANYONE except as a "well if you can't afford a good pc, this will work".  They are the cheapest, shittiest pc of the lowest quality construction and add on the fact that with regular use you will go thru rings and seals every 6 mos or so, and they are barely fit to do grandmas canning once a year. 


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Edited by MastaBlastar (08/17/14 02:00 PM)

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: MastaBlastar]
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I have done 100's of open air grain jars with a fail rate of less than 5%. Used lots of rubbing alcohol and paper towels though.

:themoreyouknow:

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: MastaBlastar]
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MastaBlastar said:
DAYMN.  Someone riding a high horse with one good flush.  You are propagating not only bad growing skills, bud just bad life skills.  people SHOULD WASH THEIR HANDS REGULARLY.  Regardless.  I wash my hands like 8-9 times a day just because i don't want to transfer crap from everything I touch to everything else I touch.  I get free betadine surgical wash so I use that.  Germicidal and virucidal.

You can do shit in a bathroom, :knowwhatnevermind:  I think it has been clear this is not a good tek to follow.  You got one mediocre flush and are BAMMIN it like you are emmril. Its ok, I remember when i had my first beer. 

ALSO, I have 2 of those 23 qt prestos, AND THEY SUCK FUCKING COCK.  Never EVER recommend a presto to ANYONE except as a "well if you can't afford a good pc, this will work".  They are the cheapest, shittiest pc of the lowest quality construction and add on the fact that with regular use you will go thru rings and seals every 6 mos or so, and they are barely fit to do grandmas canning once a year. 




I personally loved my  23q presto when I had one.

:dudewtf:

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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: MastaBlastar]
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MastaBlastar said:
DAYMN.  Someone riding a high horse with one good flush.  You are propagating not only bad growing skills, bud just bad life skills.  people SHOULD WASH THEIR HANDS REGULARLY.  Regardless.  I wash my hands like 8-9 times a day just because i don't want to transfer crap from everything I touch to everything else I touch.  I get free betadine surgical wash so I use that.  Germicidal and virucidal.

You can do shit in a bathroom, :knowwhatnevermind:  I think it has been clear this is not a good tek to follow.  You got one mediocre flush and are BAMMIN it like you are emmril. Its ok, I remember when i had my first beer.



Right, way to judge what I do and say based off this.. I've done lots in the past that a lot of you noobs seem to be forgetting. I have many threads with previous work just without pics because I had to get rid of everything. Anyways as I said, stick around and what the rest of my tubs flush out. This isn't my first "good" flush lol.:lmafo:

Yippie more trolls.

Yea yea you should wash your hands all the time sure.. I'm a very clean personal overall..More people acting like they know my life. Thats not the fucking point here.

The point is, if you are using an SAB with gloves and alcohol and disinfectant spray, you don't need to take a shower or wash your hands or be in a completely sterile environment with a flow hood running.

I finally had one contaminated jar last night, Ill give you that.:thumbup: The first one I've seen in like 8 months :lmafo:


I was posting the pics because he was saying I never had a good flush.

And yea that one could and would be better if my brother wasn't fucking around with the thermostat the past few days. I've come into my closet twice with the temp being 88degrees+ and I'm honestly surprised I have any results to show. I'm surprised everything didn't die when he left the heat on instead of the AC.


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            --My Everything You Need To Know Tek--

Disregard the haters and "know it alls", it is everything you need to know TO GET STARTED.

If you want to become an expert, you'll need to do a lot more research.
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                  Open Your Mind To A New Future
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: New Noob Tek [Re: blackdust]
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:crazy2:
Though you may not need to shower, you should. You don't need to wipe your ass if you shit just before a shower, you should still wipe.


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