Juicin said:

It's a well accepted idea

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PatrickKn said:

Can't sum up an entire continent full of several hundred tribes, cultures and military superpowers and sum them all up as either "Savage" or "Peaceful". It's just silly, really damn silly. Even after the beginning of European colonization of both American continents, we are still talking about OVER 500 years of evolving war technology, cultural assimilation, yada yada yada. Anywhere from 10 million to 70 million people by any range of estimates across an enormous piece of land covering over a third of the planet.

Were the Native Americans savages? Sure, all humans are if you want to sum them all up in one group. It's damn silly man, so damn silly.

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Prisoner#1 said:

topdog82 said:

In pre-columbian times, were native americans war-like or peaceful?

My guess is that there was little reason for war.

Obviously, war happened. Humans are humans, and they will act accordingly. But were the Natives actively violent and war mongering?

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in north and central america the indigenous people were brutal in war and
even in times of peace, they were also peaceful. in reality they were like
anyone else, they waged war and then made peace, sometimes treaties were
broken and war continued. when one nation overtrew another it was common
for them to take slaves and often times those slaves would end up as
decoys on a battle field, this was even done by the peaceful nations such
as the cherokee

in central america I think it's pretty well known that human sacrifice was
also common, that tends to be fairly brutal as well but something that's
not as well known is that some nations of indian along the gulf coast in
what's now texas an into missisissipi were also cannibals. and they even
hunted the mastodon and a number of other species to extinction


yeah, imagine that, the stuff the history books dont tell you

so to answer the question, they were like every other human

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millzy said:

if i recall, the inca were mostly dead from disease when pizarro got there too. maybe that's why i was under the impression that they were peaceful because there was nobody there to really put up a fight.

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Prisoner#1 said:

topdog82 said:

In pre-columbian times, were native americans war-like or peaceful?

My guess is that there was little reason for war.

Obviously, war happened. Humans are humans, and they will act accordingly. But were the Natives actively violent and war mongering?

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in north and central america the indigenous people were brutal in war and
even in times of peace, they were also peaceful. in reality they were like
anyone else, they waged war and then made peace, sometimes treaties were
broken and war continued. when one nation overtrew another it was common
for them to take slaves and often times those slaves would end up as
decoys on a battle field, this was even done by the peaceful nations such
as the cherokee

in central america I think it's pretty well known that human sacrifice was
also common, that tends to be fairly brutal as well but something that's
not as well known is that some nations of indian along the gulf coast in
what's now texas an into missisissipi were also cannibals. and they even
hunted the mastodon and a number of other species to extinction


yeah, imagine that, the stuff the history books dont tell you

so to answer the question, they were like every other human

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ThatKidWithTheFace said:

Juicin said:

luvdemshrooms said:

Of course it is. Taking from one (or many) to settle what you perceive as the injustice of another, is exactly that.

It's unlikely to happen and it shouldn't.

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It's a well accepted idea

No different than the Isreali's paying reparations, collectively.

It's not collective punishment, it's righting a wrong you as a group of people committed. This kind of thing is done all over the developed world. We still do it today in America with some native groups.

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I honestly don't see the fairness in that.

Why should I pay you because of what my great-great-grandfather did to yours? (theoretically speaking)

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akira_akuma said:

as i've said, it's moral outrage, not a logical one. good riddance.

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akira_akuma said:

i already did. there is no punishment and you aren't being treated as a criminal. they're asking for a bit of pittance from you. it's hardly outrageous, you chose to see it that way.

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