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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Well I am excited to hear your opinion it is biased towards the right which is good because the left controls so much media.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:



that looks like either mayans or aztecs to me. it wouldn't surprise me if the inca employed human sacrifices too though. but my impression of them has always been that they were the cool ones of the bunch. they lived high up in the andes so they didn't really have a need to wage war because they had nobody to wage wars on. i could be wrong.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Well I am excited to hear your opinion it is biased towards the right which is good because the left controls so much media.


we can agree on that. there shouldn't even partisan news media.

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: topdog82] * 2
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dakaen said:
Well look no private citizens own the national/state parks yes?


Nope. All private citizens own the parks.


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Come on man is there no way we can see eye to eye?


Nope. It's an astonishingly stupid idea that fortunately is very unlikely to come to pass.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: topdog82]
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Truth hurts. You'll get over it.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
Gilgamesh18 said:



that looks like either mayans or aztecs to me. it wouldn't surprise me if the inca employed human sacrifices too though. but my impression of them has always been that they were the cool ones of the bunch. they lived high up in the andes so they didn't really have a need to wage war because they had nobody to wage wars on. i could be wrong.


There is evidence that the Inca practiced human sacrifice, albeit not nearly on the scale of the Mayans or Aztecs.  And yes, they waged war.  They were an empire, after all.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Silversoul]
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if i recall, the inca were mostly dead from disease when pizarro got there too. maybe that's why i was under the impression that they were peaceful because there was nobody there to really put up a fight.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: topdog82]
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dakaen said:
luvdemshrooms said:
dakaen said:
Well look no private citizens own the national/state parks yes?


Nope. All private citizens own the parks.


Quote:
Come on man is there no way we can see eye to eye?


Nope. It's an astonishingly stupid idea that fortunately is very unlikely to come to pass.


:nicesmile:
fuck you


The US park service is one of the few that is actually working the way it's supposed to. Why do you want to mess with that?


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
if i recall, the inca were mostly dead from disease when pizarro got there too. maybe that's why i was under the impression that they were peaceful because there was nobody there to really put up a fight.


Pizarro got extremely lucky when he conquered the Incans.  Atahualpa had 80,000 soldiers compared to his 200.  Fortunately for Pizarro, Atahualpa got cocky about this, and decided not to put up much of a fight until it was too late, when they had a chance to surround Atahualpa and capture him.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Silversoul]
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the surrounding tribes all wanted to decimate the aztecs too. cortez used it to his advantage. he also just kinda strolled into their city and was treated like a god at the very start.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Of course it is. Taking from one (or many) to settle what you perceive as the injustice of another, is exactly that.

It's unlikely to happen and it shouldn't.


It's a well accepted idea

No different than the Isreali's paying reparations, collectively.

It's not collective punishment, it's righting a wrong you as a group of people committed. This kind of thing is done all over the developed world. We still do it today in America with some native groups.

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Of course it is. Taking from one (or many) to settle what you perceive as the injustice of another, is exactly that.

It's unlikely to happen and it shouldn't.


It's a well accepted idea

No different than the Isreali's paying reparations, collectively.

It's not collective punishment, it's righting a wrong you as a group of people committed. This kind of thing is done all over the developed world. We still do it today in America with some native groups.


I honestly don't see the fairness in that.

Why should I pay you because of what my great-great-grandfather did to yours? (theoretically speaking)


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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because you nor anyone else can explain what sense it was to your father to maim his people, and set them on lower rung of society? maybe?

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
because you nor anyone else can explain what sense it was to your father to maim his people, and set them on lower rung of society? maybe?


Yes, but I didn't maim anybody. What's the point in trying to be a good person if you're gonna get punished for other people's crimes anyways?


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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don't think of it as punishment, think of it as recompense. your morally outraged. not logically.

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said:
In pre-columbian times, were native americans war-like or peaceful?

My guess is that there was little reason for war.

Obviously, war happened. Humans are humans, and they will act accordingly. But were the Natives actively violent and war mongering?



in north and central america the indigenous people were brutal in war and
even in times of peace, they were also peaceful. in reality they were like
anyone else, they waged war and then made peace, sometimes treaties were
broken and war continued. when one nation overtrew another it was common
for them to take slaves and often times those slaves would end up as
decoys on a battle field, this was even done by the peaceful nations such
as the cherokee

in central america I think it's pretty well known that human sacrifice was
also common, that tends to be fairly brutal as well but something that's
not as well known is that some nations of indian along the gulf coast in
what's now texas an into missisissipi were also cannibals. and they even
hunted the mastodon and a number of other species to extinction


yeah, imagine that, the stuff the history books dont tell you

so to answer the question, they were like every other human


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: akira_akuma]
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"Don't think of it as a punishment . . ."

:rolleyes:


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
so to answer the question, they were like every other human


End of thread.

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
"Don't think of it as a punishment . . ."

:rolleyes:


explain how it's a punishment. go.

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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: akira_akuma]
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pun·ish·ment
/ˈpəniSHmənt/
noun

the infliction or imposition of a penalty as retribution for an offense.


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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