deCypher said:

badchad said:

Depends on whether I have a net payment of more, or less.

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Patlal said:

Gilgamesh18 said:

I would oppose it market forces have an incentive to lower the cost of insurance the government does not. And lol a few more percentage points in taxes yea right taxes would increase quite a bit most notably the income tax.

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Well look at it this way.

Universal health care is paid by the government alone.

American health care is paid by the government + the private and their profit. Therefore making it more expensive.  levels of payment/management instead of just one.

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zappaisgod said:

Patlal said:

Gilgamesh18 said:

I would oppose it market forces have an incentive to lower the cost of insurance the government does not. And lol a few more percentage points in taxes yea right taxes would increase quite a bit most notably the income tax.

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Well look at it this way.

Universal health care is paid by the government alone.

American health care is paid by the government + the private and their profit. Therefore making it more expensive.  levels of payment/management instead of just one.

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Nothing is paid for by the government.  I think the US should forbid Canadians from crossing the border for medical care

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So that 39% of spending is nothing?

nicechrisman said:

Fuck yes I would. It's embarrassing when I travel to other countries when people ask about our healthcare system.

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zappaisgod said:

It isn't the government's money.  The government doesn't pay for anything.  It takes money from productive private citizens to give to bums who suck.

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Tax revenue. This is the most obvious. Government sets a tax policy, people pay their taxes, and government has money.
Fines and penalties. Government writes a law with a punishment of a fine or a penalty, and collect money from offenders with the threat of even more punishment.
Fees. Government provides a service that only government can provide, and charges a fee to cover the costs.
Borrowing. Government promises to repay loans at a healthy interest rate. This is really a future tax, since one day those loans will come due, and that generation of taxpayers will pay the bill.
Raiding funds. This is not so obvious, but here’s how it works. Government collects money for something like Social Security and rather than put it in a bank account, they spend it, leaving IOUs behind. This is really government borrowing from itself. Social Security and Medicare were used for this purpose. There is no money in these accounts, and we can never pay enough taxes to finance it.
Revenue. Some governments engage in economic activity. The money government earns from this is revenue.
Printing. Government has the power to print money, and can raise money simply by creating it.

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myc_check1212 said:

Yeah, totally. There's some Veterans who could tell you all about the joys of government run health care. Its such a smashing success that some clinics needed to keep two sets of books!

How do you Canadians manage to stay so positive, upbeat and cheerful when the real world keeps proving you wrong?

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akira_akuma said:

fuck that. i realize what you are saying but... AMERICANS MAKE UP THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. not some evil force, or evil foreigners or evil or non-evil anything. it'd just people like yourself.

so yeah, the constitution was written to protect the people from the government body, which is comprised of THEMSELVES.

don't call me Kollektiffist, it's American's who are the Kollektiffists.

go away now.

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