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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
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If you are drawn more to simplicity, and are also interested in Taoism, then Japanese Mahayana school of Zen Buddhism might be the form to focus on (Indian Mahayana is not well represented in literature, because it is unpopular in India). If you are drawn to more complex and esoteric thought, and Indian Yoga holds your fascination more than the Chinese Taoist influence, then Tibetan Buddhism might be your direction. The Vajrayana (Diamond or Thunderbolt Vehicle) has four schools: Kargyutpa (Kagyu), Nyingma, Geluggpa, and Sakya. If Southeast Asia is your draw (my BFF is married to a Cambodian woman), then the Theravadan teachings (which are geared more to the practice of Buddhist monks and nuns, but certainly has its lay outreach), might be your direction.



It's a good idea to focus in on the cultural forms in which Buddhism has developed, not merely for aesthetic reasons but because vocabulary and traditions vary widely from country to country. I mean, you'r going to read about Kensho and Satori in Japanese Zen, but not in Tibetan schools. And you're going to learn about Buddhist chakra psychology among the most esoteric of Tibetan schools, seed syllables and mantras (like The Great Mantra OM MANI PADME HUM), but in Zen, you'll learn about the Hara at most. So cultural forms are the widest categories to sort out first. The truths of the Mahayana will be found in Theravadan and Vajrayana forms of Buddhism, but it's helpful to narrow your scope.


Edited by MarkostheGnostic (06/17/14 12:27 AM)

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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of course i have no idea what is available where you are
this is a  small sample of what is available free online already
enjoy

download free Buddhist books

pdf files

http://www.amaravati.org/teachings/

http://www.buddhanet.net/ebooks_s.htm

http://www.dhammatalks.org/ebook_index.html

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free Buddhist Audio Books

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/

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Listen to free Dhamma talks online or download

http://www.dhammatalks.org/

http://www.dharmaseed.org/talks/

http://www.ajahnchah.org/mp3-ajahn-chah-english-dhammatalk.htm

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Free Buddhist Essays

http://www.vipassana.com/meditation/khema/hereandnow/index.php

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list of topics

http://www.buddhism-guide.com/buddhism/list_of_buddhist_topics.htm
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Fress videos

Introduction to Meditation: How To Meditate (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL603BD0B03E12F5A1

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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Markos had a great post on it. It really is whatever attracts you.


rbalzer said:
But what can I do to become a better buddhist?


Try to think of it as becoming a better person instead of a better Buddhist. The Buddha never taught Buddhism. :tongue:

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My main question is: what book should I read? I need a buddhist text to ponder over in the coming months.


I'd say you don't need one. Just practice. :smile:

As far as the 8 fold path and the 4 noble truths, the 4th noble truth is that there's freedom from suffering, and the 8 fold path is an ethical code to live by to alleviate additional suffering.

The Way of Zen by Alan Watts isn't bad per say (Alan Watts is one of my favorite writers), but a lot of Zen Teachers would disagree with his account of Zen. The historical aspect is pretty well done, but keep in mind that Watts never received Dharma Transmission, and was never an authorized teacher. Watts himself would make that clear. If you take something away from The Way of Zen though, that's great then. :sun:


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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: r72rock]
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I believe that if we are completly open with ourselves, and reflect upon our actions, we are in nirvana.

Most people believe they are open with themselves, they are not. Some people are more open than others, but as we grow, we start denying less and less things, though those we hold on to get corroded and further hardened.

It is completly ok not to be open with ourselves. People need to know this, for it is not a single bit their fault, as it was cast upon them by our upbringing into this society, any society.

The spiritual quest is to unravel just this, so in order to "advance", just be open with yourself -it is why people meditate, and use psycedellics, to lower the barriers that prevent us from being in touch with what is simply "us", all of us, and not the shallow residue imprinted upon our hollowed out shells which so many call their personality.

Just beware: The all so familiar routine has a way of creeping up on you. You need to face the pain, admit to it, in order to be at peace, any pain, nomatter how far down it goes, just know that the farther down you fall, the higher you can bounce off again.


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And thus begins the  reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.

Edited by Icyus (06/17/14 12:52 PM)

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Icyus]
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Icyus said:
I believe that if we are completly open with ourselves, and reflect upon our actions, we are in nirvana.

Most people believe they are open with themselves, they are not. Some people are more open than others, but as we grow, we start denying less and less things, though those we hold on to get corroded and further hardened.

It is completly ok not to be open with ourselves. People need to know this, for it is not a single bit their fault, as it was cast upon them by our upbringing into this society, any society.

The spiritual quest is to unravel just this, so in order to "advance", just be open with yourself -it is why people meditate, and use psycedellics, to lower the barriers that prevent us from being in touch with what is simply "us", all of us, and not the shallow residue imprinted upon our hollowed out shells which so many call their personality.

Just beware: The all so familiar routine has a way of creeping up on you. You need to face the pain, admit to it, in order to be at peace, any pain, nomatter how far down it goes, just know that the farther down you fall, the higher you can bounce off again.


Thank you for that. I especially enjoyed the last two paragraphs!

I need to remember when I'm feeling really  shittily "its always darkest before the dawn"


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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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Hello friends...

I've been a Buddhist for several years, first got involved through self-study and practice a few years before that.

In my experience, Buddhism has a kind of living consciousness or energy, that can be shared or experienced together by people when the situation arises.  I believe that for one who's interested in Buddhism, great benefit can be found in meeting Buddhists and getting to know them, meditating and studying with them, etc.

If you're in a reasonably well-populated area it should be very easy to find a few Buddhist centers or at least meditation meetings.  See what you find... :cookiemonster:

p.s. I don't mean to imply that Buddhism requires "transmission," nor that there is anybody with greater authority on reality than anybody else, nor that there is any special thing you have to go get in some other future place from someone else...there isn't.  But in my experience, the uniquely human quality of some of these people who'd been at this Buddhist thing for awhile was really striking; I had no idea. :nyan:

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
I have read siddhartha a couple times in my life, and every time it makes me re-think the way I live my life.

But what can I do to become a better buddhist? I've been giving meditation a spin, and really like where thats been taking me. Also gonna give yoga another go

My main question is: what book should I read? I need a buddhist text to ponder over in the coming months.

Obviously everyone finds their own path through this philosophy, I just need some guidance to get me going in the right direction.

On top of all this, I've been considering buying the "go-to" text on taoism. But I think I should focus on buddhism heavily first before turning my focus to something new.




Any and all input is very appreciated!!!


Drop out, find a cave and meditate non stop until you see what you've been missing.

Or just get a robe and some sunglasses.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: hmmn]
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hmmn said:
Hello friends...

I've been a Buddhist for several years, first got involved through self-study and practice a few years before that.

In my experience, Buddhism has a kind of living consciousness or energy, that can be shared or experienced together by people when the situation arises.  I believe that for one who's interested in Buddhism, great benefit can be found in meeting Buddhists and getting to know them, meditating and studying with them, etc.

If you're in a reasonably well-populated area it should be very easy to find a few Buddhist centers or at least meditation meetings.  See what you find... :cookiemonster:

p.s. I don't mean to imply that Buddhism requires "transmission," nor that there is anybody with greater authority on reality than anybody else, nor that there is any special thing you have to go get in some other future place from someone else...there isn't.  But in my experience, the uniquely human quality of some of these people who'd been at this Buddhist thing for awhile was really striking; I had no idea. :nyan:


I do really like this suggestion. I'm a bit of a social retard, and this prevents me from doing a lot of social activities, but I might just bite the bullet to try something like that.

Mainly because I feel like hanging out with buddhists would be relatively more drama free and "real". Nobody bickering over meaningless shit. And being able to discuss the things you hold most dear, but that the general population does not usually care to discuss.

Meditation meetings or groups, that sounds like the place for me.


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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
hmmn said:
Hello friends...

I've been a Buddhist for several years, first got involved through self-study and practice a few years before that.

In my experience, Buddhism has a kind of living consciousness or energy, that can be shared or experienced together by people when the situation arises.  I believe that for one who's interested in Buddhism, great benefit can be found in meeting Buddhists and getting to know them, meditating and studying with them, etc.

If you're in a reasonably well-populated area it should be very easy to find a few Buddhist centers or at least meditation meetings.  See what you find... :cookiemonster:

p.s. I don't mean to imply that Buddhism requires "transmission," nor that there is anybody with greater authority on reality than anybody else, nor that there is any special thing you have to go get in some other future place from someone else...there isn't.  But in my experience, the uniquely human quality of some of these people who'd been at this Buddhist thing for awhile was really striking; I had no idea. :nyan:


I do really like this suggestion. I'm a bit of a social retard, and this prevents me from doing a lot of social activities, but I might just bite the bullet to try something like that.

Mainly because I feel like hanging out with buddhists would be relatively more drama free and "real". Nobody bickering over meaningless shit. And being able to discuss the things you hold most dear, but that the general population does not usually care to discuss.

Meditation meetings or groups, that sounds like the place for me.


:congrats:


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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Icyus]
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Eat amanita mushrooms.  Buddha was a mushroom, just the East's version of the mushroom allegory. I have seen painting on temple walls in Nepal that show it all. I thought I had a picture on this computer but it is on my other one.  I'll post it up later.

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: victor1echo] * 2
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While I do believe based on accounts that I've read that psychoactive substances were used by tantric buddhists back in the day, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that buddha was an amanita mushroom.


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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: victor1echo]
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I studied buddhism for years; went to Thailand and Nepal; studied with the Dali Lama.  It is just another mind control game in the end.  You need someone to tell you you are enlightened? I don't, nor do I feel other people should give themselves over to others who would take advantage of you.  Just my $.02.  Here is that photo from Sikkim, India:



notice the Amanita mushroom cap from which this deity emerges?

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: victor1echo]
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I think the real stuff is in the teachings, not the establishments. And really it is beyond the teachings. The teachings can only point the direction. Any time establishment is created around mysticism, it eventually becomes corrupted by power structures.

I've been learning a little about dzogchen lately. Some pretty old teachings. Some say they predate and transcend buddhism although they have been incorporated into buddhism.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: victor1echo]
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that's a leopard skin garment not an amanita muscaria cap i believe :smile:


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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
hmmn said:
Hello friends...

I've been a Buddhist for several years, first got involved through self-study and practice a few years before that.

In my experience, Buddhism has a kind of living consciousness or energy, that can be shared or experienced together by people when the situation arises.  I believe that for one who's interested in Buddhism, great benefit can be found in meeting Buddhists and getting to know them, meditating and studying with them, etc.

If you're in a reasonably well-populated area it should be very easy to find a few Buddhist centers or at least meditation meetings.  See what you find... :cookiemonster:

p.s. I don't mean to imply that Buddhism requires "transmission," nor that there is anybody with greater authority on reality than anybody else, nor that there is any special thing you have to go get in some other future place from someone else...there isn't.  But in my experience, the uniquely human quality of some of these people who'd been at this Buddhist thing for awhile was really striking; I had no idea. :nyan:


I do really like this suggestion. I'm a bit of a social retard, and this prevents me from doing a lot of social activities, but I might just bite the bullet to try something like that.

Mainly because I feel like hanging out with buddhists would be relatively more drama free and "real". Nobody bickering over meaningless shit. And being able to discuss the things you hold most dear, but that the general population does not usually care to discuss.

Meditation meetings or groups, that sounds like the place for me.


Haha!  I've met some really cool people in meditation groups; I don't think you're far off the mark.  But don't be too naive - people are people, everywhere.  The practicing Buddhists I've met are generally really chill, caring, insightful people...but they are fallible human beings who make mistakes.

But yeah, meditation groups are a great place to be with people, especially if you're not jiving with the "dominant culture" that's so confused right now.  Go for it...

:mindexpanding:

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: deff] * 1
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victor1echo said:
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notice the Amanita mushroom cap from which this deity emerges?


deff said:
that's a leopard skin garment not an amanita muscaria cap i believe :smile:


Two deities in embrace, deity in the front is wearing a leopard skin, yes.

More readily visible with the bottom of the image not being cut off:

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: Tantrika]
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If you really follow the teachings of siddhartha, you would follow your own path. That is what he taught, and that is how he gained his enlightenment. No path is the same, and to become "Buddhist" is the most un-Buddhist thing you could do, in my eyes. Buddhism isn't supposed to be about doing or believing or knowing, anything specific. That is what the followers of the Buddha turned it into.

It is about yourself, and what you can do to take yourself to higher levels of consciousness. It is about you transcending your ego to the highest form of yourself. And no one else can teach you that.


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I live in an aura of hope because I live in a twilight world of my own self-generated, cannabinated fantasy, and I forget that not everyone is so fortunate. - Terence McKenna

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: maddad]
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I agree although I still think studying his teachings can give one perspective on crafting one's own path. Certain organizations are good ways of gaining access to understanding of these teachings.


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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: nicechrisman]
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Of course his teachings are helpful, but you must still figure out how to incorporate them into your own life, and use them to find your own way.

To become more Buddhist is to become more yourself. Meditation is a technique used to look inward and figure out who you are. That is where the heart of Buddhism is. Enlightenment is nothing more than the discovery of oneself in the confusion of cultural and societal pressures.

OP just forget about being Buddhist, it will only make achieving your goal that much harder. Look into the Tao Te Ching and other ancient philosophies from the east. It may help you on your own journey.


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I live in an aura of hope because I live in a twilight world of my own self-generated, cannabinated fantasy, and I forget that not everyone is so fortunate. - Terence McKenna

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Re: Just re-read siddhartha, what can I do to get more into buddhism? [Re: maddad]
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Tao Te Ching is awesome. My copy was recently lost along with my paraphernalia bag that I dropped somewhere and someone picked up. A bunch of fine ganja and a copy of the Tao Te Ching. Hopefully it helped somebody out.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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