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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: TopPmz] * 1
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TopPmz said:
Not without specialized equipment.



Not even then, (Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle)
I think at a sub-atomic level the concept of location is a little different to the macro level.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Sacklome]
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Yeah, then. When using the particle accelerator, they have to be able to see the particles in order to be able to explain what they're doing. So, sub-atomic particles can be seen, even if it is briefly.


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Sacklome]
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in retrospect, it's not actually what anyone has said that was stupid, but their perceived pre-suppositions and accolades of said orthodox pandering towards that end, that makes them look stupid. everyone does, at least... hmmm, at least once in a blue moon; make a claim that isn't backed up by previous knowledge.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: TopPmz]
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well still I see time as a very different case than something physical.

it's basically something we've created to help better serve our documentation of events. yes toppmz your memories are false in the sense that they exist nowhere else presently but in your thoughts


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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the effect of their occurrence does exist...


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: TopPmz]
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TopPmz said:
Yeah, then. When using the particle accelerator, they have to be able to see the particles in order to be able to explain what they're doing. So, sub-atomic particles can be seen, even if it is briefly.


They can see the path the particles take, but not the particles themselves.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: TopPmz]
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TopPmz said:
Yeah, then. When using the particle accelerator, they have to be able to see the particles in order to be able to explain what they're doing. So, sub-atomic particles can be seen, even if it is briefly.


A visual representation extrapolated from data aqquired through various physical reactions. Not exactly 'seeing'.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
in retrospect, it's not actually what anyone has said that was stupid, but their perceived pre-suppositions and accolades of said orthodox pandering towards that end, that makes them look stupid. everyone does, at least... hmmm, at least once in a blue moon; make a claim that isn't backed up by previous knowledge.


I don't ever do that.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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berdinwall said:
well still I see time as a very different case than something physical.

it's basically something we've created to help better serve our documentation of events. yes toppmz your memories are false in the sense that they exist nowhere else presently but in your thoughts


How the hell did we create time?! No we observed it and then gave it a name. If people didn't exist do you think the universe would just be suspended in one state forever?

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Crystal G]
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"The only reason people don't use deliriants is because they're so rare."

I tried to explain how wrong this was, but they just acted like they were a fucking expert and I didn't know shit.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Sacklome]
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Sacklome said:
akira_akuma said:
in retrospect, it's not actually what anyone has said that was stupid, but their perceived pre-suppositions and accolades of said orthodox pandering towards that end, that makes them look stupid. everyone does, at least... hmmm, at least once in a blue moon; make a claim that isn't backed up by previous knowledge.


I don't ever do that.


not even when you were a child? i supposed that's possible, if you were raised in a bubble being fed propaganda your whole life and only doing what you were told.

but since that is not the case, i'd have to assume that you are at least right now, making a claim which cannot be backed up by evidence or reasoning for that matter.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: NotTheDevil]
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berdinwall said:
well still I see time as a very different case than something physical.

it's basically something we've created to help better serve our documentation of events. yes toppmz your memories are false in the sense that they exist nowhere else presently but in your thoughts


But there are others that can verify most of those memories. They exist. I understand your position. The problem is, you're pushing your position as fact. You're as bad as religion.

NotTheDevil said:
TopPmz said:
Yeah, then. When using the particle accelerator, they have to be able to see the particles in order to be able to explain what they're doing. So, sub-atomic particles can be seen, even if it is briefly.


They can see the path the particles take, but not the particles themselves.


True, but that actually supports the argument that time exists even more. Now they can show you where it WAS.


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Sacklome]
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we didn't observe it. we just had the ability to "remember" the way things used to be. really it's impossible to refer back to them without using past tense in writing lol...we needed it in order to refer to it. we had to call it something...but really all it was were different circumstances at the same point in time, NOW.


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: TopPmz]
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TopPmz said:
But there are others that can verify most of those memories. They exist. I understand your position. The problem is, you're pushing your position as fact. You're as bad as religion.




oh so you aren't? you are open to the idea of it being an illusion or no? mmmhm...


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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It's a possibility, but I find it very unlikely.


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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:derail:

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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akira_akuma said:
but since that is not the case, i'd have to assume that you are at least right now, making a claim which cannot be backed up by evidence or reasoning for that matter.


:wink:

berdinwall said:
we didn't observe it. we just had the ability to "remember" the way things used to be. really it's impossible to refer back to them without using past tense in writing lol...we needed it in order to refer to it. we had to call it something...but really all it was were different circumstances at the same point in time, NOW.


The fact that circumstances can change requires time to exist.

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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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I understand what you're saying to...it happened so it exists...the only difference in my opinion is that I'm saying it still exists...everything happens now, there are just different forms of it. seriously, think about it, we call it the past because things aren't in the same form...it's like we had to store it somewhere as being the way that it was...to more clearly organize our thoughts and decision making skills


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: Sacklome]
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Sacklome said:
berdinwall said:
we didn't observe it. we just had the ability to "remember" the way things used to be. really it's impossible to refer back to them without using past tense in writing lol...we needed it in order to refer to it. we had to call it something...but really all it was were different circumstances at the same point in time, NOW.


The fact that circumstances can change requires time to exist.


QFT


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Re: What is the dumbest (but funniest) thing you have ever heard somebody say? [Re: berdinwall]
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berdinwall said:
I understand what you're saying to...it happened so it exists...the only difference in my opinion is that I'm saying it still exists...everything happens now, there are just different forms of it. seriously, think about it, we call it the past because things aren't in the same form...it's like we had to store it somewhere as being the way that it was...to more clearly organize our thoughts and decision making skills


But it doesn't still exist. It's just a memory.


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