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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The pc work is done, for today.  Waiting on the jars to cool down, for innoculating.  Probably gonna take 4 hours.  I don't like using the stove on high heat.  Last time, I was boiling some birdseed and I had a flame.  It's electric, so any fire is bad.  I have learned to clean that stove, inside and out.  Seems that these large metal containers, tend to reflect a lot of heat back down.  So if there is anything down there, any food or grease, anything at all, it will burn.  I will also get smarter about putting hot tap water, into the birdseed boil.  It goes a lot faster when it starts with hot water.  The pc, says to use 2 quarts of boiling water, that way it boils a lot faster.

Not sure how I will get through 16 case, wish I had some workers!  Lol!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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"Wish I had some workers!  Lol!"

I wish I could help!! :lol:


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: the mad machinest]
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Just finished up innoculating the case.  One jar had a malfunction, the ge port was sealed shut, with silicon.  I do hope that this does not occur very often.  I would rather see a contimate grow, than some sort of pre-fabication error.

I did not attempt to inoculate this lone jar.  I know I could of, to see how the myc or sclerotia preform with ge.  I decided to leave this jar, as a test.  A test of what else will grow, if anything at all.  It as opened for a second or two, within the glove box.  So it will test the filter and the sterility of the glovebox.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The innoculant has not turned white and fuzzy yet. This is not a good sign.  I expected, that if there isa lack of moisture in the substrate, this would be more of a problem towards the end of the jar life. 

The sand and the compost are not that wet by themselves.  Only in adding the wood and birdseed, was there much moisture. 

I have the dry mix in a bucket.  I am going to let it air dry some.  That way when I do mix the wet ingrediants in, I can be certain that coffee is a good additive.

Kinda bummed, but I have plenty of substrate ingrediants for more experiments.  Who knows, the first case could start to grow in the next 48 hours.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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This is weird I try to hit the period key and everything I type goes blank after


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Okay, things work again.  I dumped the strait birdseedmasterspawn jar, in the old burn pile.  There were no smells of ethanol, so I don't know why it's growth went it poop.  It was drying out at the top and really slowed down it's growth.

I think why I am not seeing as fast growth with the jars down yesterday, is it's only 72F in there.  Seems like plenty of moisture, as there is condensate on the jars, where there is no substrate.

I wish I was pc'ing today, but I am tired and agro.  Was going to do farm work but it's raining, so I won't do much.  I like to pack the jars outside, since things can get messy mixing the substrate.  On the other hand, the wood is soaking nicely.  I think the sawdust adds the most moisture, but I don't want to much.  Might go ahead and add 24 tbs of coffee (liquid), as this isnot much fluid.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I just did the best i could at reading this thread in the time I have.  I live in ohio as well and have a plate grown out of some var. of esculentoides not sure of the exact species since there are around 12 i believe in the states of the var. at least.  I am going down to the property this weekend and taking a slurry I made this spring from esculentoides and punctipus.  I hope to disperse it a couple places and thought abou tmaybe starting a burn site or transfering ashes to a site somewhere on the property.  It is primarily oak and beech but theres a pine patch and around 175 acres to work with so somewhere should be prime.  I'm thinking about joining you in this adventure.  What does yoru inoculation site consist of wher you will be spawning too?

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
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175 acres would be nice, wish I had  that.  As for these two test cases.  I will plant in my raised bed, one case.  The other case will go along the edge of some woods, a grassy area.



That is an out of focus, cell phone pic, of yellow morel myc, overgrowing an apple wood chip. 

Finished pc'ing all the jars, waiting for the last case to cool down for innoc.  I think that everything they require is in the mix, so almost anywhere should sustain them.  I am going to try different locations that I have access too.

I took other pics of this myc growing onto an apple wood chip.  They are blank spots on the USB memory drive.  Dunno why they didn't come out, seems perhaps one could of been bette.  Oh well, maybe I shall take more pics soon enough.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got to use the stove for food tonight.  Made elbow macaroni with pasta sauce and meatballs, yum yum! 

I did have a malfunction with another jar.  One in each case isn't the end of the world.  I will improve this by getting new lids, so there will only be a ge port.  The issues are either the ge port is sealed, or the lc ports break off.  A lc port broke off, on todays jar.  Put gorilla tape over this hole, actually seen this work before. 

The first case is looking great, temps are up into the upper 70's.  So things are good enough.  My dog is happy.  I put him in a cage when I do the pc or innoc.  I can't be having issues with him, as I am at sensative points in the progress.  He likes his cage, hangs out in there a lot during the day.  I give him a couple of walks and food/water breaks when I can.  I like to stick to a schedule, and things worked out well.

Just wanted to add some of the things that must be done, for safety.  I wouldn't do this with young kids around, unless they were older and could watch tv.  Using the pc is very sensative and dangerous.  Boiling water and pressure could be a bad situation.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The first case looks great, really starting to take off.  The second case should catch up soon, a couple of days.  I really like to see the myc grow over a apple wood chip.  It's cool to watch it grow so quickly.  I think the myc should enjoy the sand.  The mix seems very good, I shall see just how well it colonizes.

Too bad I don't have a macro camera.  There are a lot of details I cannot capture in a pic, on a cell phone.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The second case is eally catching up, it will most likely do better.  This makes me a tad concerned about the first case.  Maybe I will do another two cases. 

The second case is a little more fuzzy, and appears to be colonizing through the substrate faster.  I think the coffee helps simulate burned material, as it is roasted.....lol


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Checked the dump in the old burn pile.  Seems the myc is rotting.  I didn't bury the myc or anything else dumped.  It has a sour smell and a rotten look, kinda slimy and soft looking.  It's been attracting a lot of bugs.  I was hoping that eventually the dump would grow some morels.

It's still fairly warm here, but been cooler.  I am at 40.8 North in Ohio.  We have had a lot of rain this year.  No critters have been seen in the dump.  Perhaps the dump will just be a dump.  I would enjoy seeing it compost and eventually colonizing.

I may use the rye grass/compost jar as a replacement for the jar that has a sealed ge port.  No visable sclerotia in any of the master spawn jars.

I may have to go away from using birdseed or anything that gets funky.  Going with just wood, compost and sand, may be the way to go.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Took a watering container, standard garden type....filled it 3/4 with city water and a few squirtsof 3% hydrogen peroxide and applied to the burn pile.  Seems this will be the best shot of anything ever coming up there. Just for shits and giggles, but it would be nice to see morels coming up, under varying conditions.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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There is a family of wild turkeys, that wonders around my backyard and neighborhood.  Today I saw the mom, right at the burn dump.  Maybe the birdseed is cleaner now that peroxide was applied.  There is also a groundhog and once in a blue moon some coons or deer.  I am lazy and should fence the yard in next year.  I need to winch on someones jeep, to stretch the fence.  The jeep owner is building a house and going back to school soon.  Seems the fence won't get built this year.  Just wanting some morel success, as long as I get to see something and a print.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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If any of us become successful at growing morels.  We should form an organization and control prices like they do with diamonds.

I see myc in the burn pile, very exciting!!!!  Seems peroxide is worth it's cost, for sure!!!  I might have to use peroxide on the places I plant morels.....might be a requirement to fight off rot.

Will keep the readers updated.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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After looking back through posts, I fear that this substrate I am using for sclerotia formation, is slower at growing myc.  I have really good growth in pics, of the master spawn jars, at 9 days.  The first case will be at 7 days, tomarrow.  Temps are cooler, and I am not going to turn on the heat, for some jars.

It is possible that the myc is growing thinner, at this phase.  It's hard to see growth in the light, that I have been using.  The sand is something that might grow sclerotia better than myc, most likely.  I guess I have to wait more, to really get a good idea what is going on.  On know there is growth, it's not clear enough to get a good idea what's going on.

Kinda sucks, gotta figure this out.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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This substrate is not colonzing the way I thought it would of.  The myc is very thin, where it is growing.  I am hoping to see it form sclerotia, over growing thick mycelium.  My substrate isn't much different, than what is posted in the tech.  I don't have the rice husks and those things, so perhaps that's why........oh ya and the soy meal.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The weird formations in my masterspawn jars, might be sclerotium.  Seems the birdseed/compost jar is turning a little redish.  Not yet a rust color but redish.  Mine seem to suck in as well, like they are dehydrating.  Then sometimes they grow myc on the outside, so I can't really see past that, into whatis going on.

It's strange and a little frustrating.  I though the sclerotium, would be more clearly visable.  These master spawn jars are about 5 weeks old.  So these may very well be sclerotium, forming.  The ryegrass seed/ compost, has more of this stuff and it should.  Yet theirs is more of a brown color.

I think sclerotia grow myc when their is moisture, so there might be a lot of moisture interacting....causing what I am seeing that is curious.

Sclerotium can be all sorts of sizes and shapes.  This is my first time, so I hope to learn more.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I wonder if these pics are showing sclerotium.  Seems a bit strange, compared to what little bit is on the web.  It's not very rusty and hard to see any dimensions when it's in the jar. 

Been keeping the masterspawn jars in the bedroom drawer.  The AC is on at night and sometimes in the day.  Not sure what sclerotia look like from outgrow's yellow morels], but these could be it.


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