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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Ya, it was surely bacteria.  The jar that malfunctioned, has nothing visable growing.  I am going to wait until probably next month to get a print and supplies, for petri operations.  I will be careful with the dishes, I am a little worried about what all will grow.  Surely, I shall know how good the glove box is.  I used it with the fan off, the last time or two.  I am also going to plant one apple tree, in the back yard.  They can get large, so this may sustain a morel colony.  I know it will be trimmed up, so I can move around beneath it.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I have my blonde grain spawn on sterilized maple/alder chips fir sawdust mix and its doing killer. Almost ready to plant. I also broke a jar trying to break up the grains with as rubber mallet. The myc is very strong!! But I didn't want to waste it so I put in a bag of just soaked unsterilized or even pasteurized chips and sawdust mix and it took right off!! Ready to plant in 7-8 days! Got my blacks on grain now and its pretty weird!


So what I am saying is getting spawn with morels is as easy and maybe the easiest ever. You really need to sit back and really learn and perfect your agar work. once you got that masteted you can produce BOAT loads of spawn with ease. Its been tough reading this thread for the past few months and I would love to see you have some success! :smile:


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: psylosymonreturns]
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How long did it take for you to get sclerotia?  I read 4 to 6 weeks.  I believe these are the ky to getting morels.  So I would like a few thousand or more~


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I am going to try 40 petri dishes.  It will be a colorful show, at the least.  I only need two or three dishes, to have nothing but nice rizo, mycelium!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Can anyone tell me about the stackable petri dishes?  The fit together in a stack but one dish isn't the lid for another?  I want to stack them but want to keep them closed to take contaiminated ones out, or just to look.

I can only assume that they are what I want and need~


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Use Polypropylene containers you get sauce in from asian take away places. 

Just like these, the right ones are best:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/134240423/Plastic_sauce_container/showimage.html

They are superior to petri dishes as they are PC-able, so you can pour your agar, put on the lid, stack them, wrap in a PP bag and then PC. 

The lids stay nice and snug.  They stack very nicely.  They are re-usable.  They are cheap.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: NSF]
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Not sure I want to try that for a first run, but thanks.  I will keep those in mind.  I think I want to try a sleeve of petri dishes, but not quite sure how their design is.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I did talk to myco supply.  Seems the petri dishes are what I thought they would be.  Gonna order here next month, then get started when the print gets here.  I will make 4 syringes out of the print.  I could use a loop and inoculate the agar that way, but I'd rather make syringes.  I should be able to have stuff to show off, pictures of colonies and such.  Should be interesting to see what all grows.  I had to much coffee today, so I feel like getting started.  Gotta wait though, sucks, but I am no rich man (or i would grow truffles).

Hope everyone is having a good day, stay outa trouble shroom heads!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got the petri supplies ordered, gotta send in the order for the print early next week.  I ordered agar, light malt dextrose, 40 petri dishes and 2 lock blade tweezers.  If things go well through petri to substrate jars, I should plant in the fall.  I did plant an apple tree, she is young but they do get big.  Probably get 2 or 3 more tree's.  I wonder if the rotten apples on the ground add to the mycelium or hurt?


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Petri dishes came today.  With agar and light malt dextrose.  Also got some scalpels.  Waiting on the spore print and 8 pounds of rye grass seed.  I will try to fit a day of PC'ing into the work schedule.  I will have to PC the agar/drextrose in my quart jars with the filters, so I have a gas exchange and can get the lids off when the temps are160F.  I would have liked to use booze bottels but I don't have any.  Not going to the store just for the bottles and I don't drink that fast!

Also got 2 cross lock tweezers, so I can lift the mycelium wedges from the edge, into the rye grass seed jars.  I wish the apple tree was older, but things could be good in 10 to 15 years.  People aren't finding many morels this year, around here.  There have been mostly black morels.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got the rye grass seed already.  Really great service from everybody.  Fast and speedy delivery.  Mailed in the order for the spore print.  That is the last item I am waiting on.  I can't wait to post some pics.  I doubt all 40 dishes will be contaiminated.  I find bacteria and molds interesting. but not what I am going for.

EDIT:  I don't think I will be diggin ditches, if the substrate colonizes.  I am thinking holes the size and shape of the quart jars.  I will space them out about 6-12 inches.  I have seen vids showing that they spread and fruit away from where planted.  I guess I will see what they do, in my backyard.  There are also 2 really old apple tree's at my Grandpaents.  I may plant some there to see what happens.  The Grandparents are in their early 80's, so they may ignore me and mow over them.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got another apple tree today.  I have a Gala and a Mutsu.  If things work out well in the backyard, I will think about talking to a local orchard.  Morels could be a good bumber crop.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I use quart jars for sterilizing agar as well. They work and are easy to clean... actually have me wondering how people clean their booze bottles with dried agar inside.

when you are inoculating the ground are you going to mix the morel spawn with anything? like dirt ashes or sand or anything? im not sure what they like :shrug:

an apple orchard growing morels would be a beautiful thing. :awesome:

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: deadmandave]
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I plan on trying a substrate mix of sand, compost, apple wood sawdust, apple wood chips, bird seed and some oyester shell.  I have the ratio's written down somewhere in this thread, at least written down in my morel folder.

It is fairly close to an indoor method of growing morels.  I hope the substrate colonizes smoothly, but I have to do petri then master spawn, on rye grass seed first.

I want to start with a morel habitate in my backyard, then go to an orchard.  I only need about 16,000 morels for a down payment for my house............big dreams, Lol!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Now all you need to do is inoculate some small shrubs or trees in a greenhouse, that will stay in the greenhouse for the extent of the summer, then move the plants to an outdoor location in the fall. Watering the small shrubs or trees with salt water during their time in the greenhouse is also a good thing but not in excess. Then after planting in the fall come back in the spring during morel season and there is a very very very very very very very big chance there will be morels growing around those shrubs or small trees.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: AcidHorse]
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What sort of shrubs and tree's?  I have only heard of fir roots being inoculated with morels.  They also produce a very limited amount.  I have two apple tree's that I hope will sustain a morel habitate long after I am dead.  I recieved a letter from Florida Mycology Research Center, they are out of Yellow Morel prints.  I have the agar and dishes, so I am stuck on the idea of doing a print.  I know of one more place to get a print then it's back to ordering an LC and going strait to grain.  It is a bummer that way, because I can't go from grain to grain so I must have an LC for each jar as cultures don't break up easily.  One syringe doesn't inoculate more than one jar, very easily.  I really just want a print so I can go the agar route, and make my own syringes then make master spawn jars from wedges.  Honestly, I'd love to have agar dishes for $5 or $10 a piece and make 8 master spawn/grain jars.  I only need 2-4 master jars to do 16 cases............if things ever get that far.  Once I do get morels, I think I will be making a lot of spore prints.  Spore prints make morels worth $60 a large morel.  You could still sell the dried morel halves for a deal and make even more cash.  The only place I know of to get a morel print is $50.  That makes each large morel worth $100 a piece.  There seems to be no good place to get morel prints. someone could make a fortune if anyone is buying them. 

EDIT:  I wanted to yeild and harvest 16,000 morels over the course of the project at one dollar a shroom.  If I harvested 16,000 morels for spore prints and sold them for $50 a half print that makes 1.6 million dollars.  I don't think I could unload 32k prints, unless China gets smart to growing morels.  I think it's a very funny revelation.

Edited by Morel Guy (05/28/13 02:12 PM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Hard time getting a print.  FMRC says they may know where to get one.  I only know of one more place online to get a print, at $50.  I think if or when I get some yellow's, I am going to take a lot of prints.  It's hard to find those around here, I don't have a lot of places to look.  If anyone knows a secret on the web to getting yellow morel prints, I would appreciate a pm. 

Thanks


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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FMRC says that their person they know found the orcahrd to be turned to dust.  There is a bank selling white morel prints for $50.  I think they are yellow morels since they have the same latin name.  How much of a syringe do you put on agar?  I was thinking drops or a whole CC. But I don't want problems.  i am not going to use a loop, for whatever reason.

EDIT:  Fatguy's agar tech says he has been able to do 25 dishes with one syringe.  He does not say what CC syringe he uses.  I guess from that he is talking a 10cc or a 12 cc.  I will use a 12cc and use about a half of a cc.  I want to make sure that I have a good amount of spores on each dishes's agar/dextrose.

I could use some advice on how much to inject onto the agar medium.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Ordered a spore print from an online site.  They say it's white morel but Morchella esculenta.  White morel is actually morechella deliciosa.  It's the same labelling as the spore syringes I put into apple wood sawdust.  Deliciosa grows on ash or poplar and I can't easily get sawdust for those.  They labelled all screwy and I just burned almost $60!  I think I am best to get two syringes of LC for yellow morel and go strait to rye grass seed.  I can collect spores from those and run agar next year, if things pop up.  It's a real bumber that they are calling white morels esculenta when that's the name for yellow's.  I can worry later about spores from an LC and gathering spores from descending generations.  I hear that mushrooms decline if you always use generations of spores from proceeding generations.  I am not sure why, perhaps it's due to the great number of genetics in the wild?  I am fixed on growing yellow's!  I think who I ordered from is not going to refund my $, before they ship, they haven't shipped yet but it's processed.....if they do refund I will probably get  stuck with a restocking fee.  I think they should of labelled their gear with the right names!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Anyone know what the largetst morel ever found weighed?  I'll give the hint of 12 ounds 4 ounces.  That is a huge, heavy mushroom!  Imagine growing one of those every square foot for 200 square feet?  I w think if I found a 12 pound morel, I'd take two prints.  One print from each half, sell one and colonize agar with the other.  I really wonder what a print from the largest morel ever, would sell for on ebay?

I am glad I am getting the white morel print today.  I found beech sawdust at a fair price.  I may work on white morels over the winter and plant those in the spring.  I am fairly sure whites like beech, yellows like apple and blacks like oak.  I read a lot so I find all sorts of information.  I have read that whites like apple wood, but I have found no evidence of this in my experiments.


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