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Growing Morels without cultures
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Is there a way to cultivate morels, indoors, without the use of culture techniques? Agar is too complicated for my friend to get involved with, and he is convinced that there is a way that the more traditional method of collecting the spores and innoculating a substrate would work.. Has anyone done this with some success?

It can't be THAT difficult, considering that white and black morels grow in my area abundantly every spring. Please, someone point me in the right direction...

-Chief

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Re: Growing Morels without cultures [Re: Chief_]
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Hah!

Morel cultivation WITH agar/sterile culture has proved difficult and to date, no one has come up with a foolproof technique, though many have tried, and a few have had limited success.

Without agar it is likely to fail. Just because Mother Nature does something well doesn't mean that one of us can do it as easily.

You could try digging up some spawn from a local bed and moving it to another suitable spot, or buy some spawn from fungi.com or mushroompeople.com, and plant it, but nobody guarantees success with it.

A search on "morel cultivation" will turn up lots of info on what's been tried.

Let us know if you have luck.

- AE


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Re: Growing Morels without cultures [Re: Chief_]
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If you try growing morels, make sure to get M. esculenta or M. deliciosa because they seem to be easier to work with compared to the black morels.

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Re: Growing Morels without cultures [Re: Chief_]
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Even amongst people who buy expensive kits, I've really don't think I've heard of one decent success story with morels!

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Re: Growing Morels without cultures [Re: ]
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i myself have had some good success by using my washwater aswell as the paper bags that my mushrooms were in and putting them in a 50 gal drum of honey water.stirring frequently overnight and spraying in an old orchard.i have done this for three years and last year was spectacular.a sprinkler system was added to the site and we are looking for another site to start on this year.i think indoors something is missing and if staments cant find it i dont hold much hope for myself.i can get sclerotia from blacks but when planted outside i dont get mushrooms.use spores from your area and find a good spot outside.you will be pleasantly surprised in a couple years


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Re: Growing Morels without cultures [Re: yoberutan]
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I have M. deliciosa fruiting in my basement right now. They got their nutrients from some cardboard boxes and formed sclerotia in some serpentine-rich dirt a few feet away. The basement flooded this winter with septic tank water(it was foul!) and now they're on their second flush! Some of the mushrooms are growing directly from solid concrete that has crevices in them. Others are growing directly in the serpentine dirt. I even have one that's fruiting directly on a rock, and it seems as though mycelium that's connected to some sclerotia decided to fruit there.
On warm days, when the night temp. is around 61 and day temps are around 72 degrees F, the fruit bodies grow as fast as cubes. HOwever, most of the time, it grows very slowly, taking two to three weeks from pinning to fully mature. At first, they shoot tiny primordia all over the place, and a few turn into little stick-like pinheads. Only a few of those pinheads make it.
One last thing before I go-the temperature during pinning never seems to go out of the range of 54-61 degrees F. It probably needs cold shocking prior to this developmental stage. This area was submerged in cold water during the winter time when we had floods. Keep in mind that the black morels require different conditions to fruit.

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