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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Penn state has a huge list of cultures for sale.  You can request either a slant or a petri dish.  They cost $125 a culture but there are many to choose from.  If things don't work out with the two cultures then I will order from Penn state.  I might even order some next spring.  I recieved my white morel spore print and it's huge, lot's of spores!  I recieved on of the 2 yellow morel cultures and am expecting the other saturday.  I will soak the rye grass seed tomarrow and pc followed by cooldown/inculation saturday.  This interest is getting addictive the more I learn.  I must get the yard fenced in by planting or there will be major animal problems.  A deer got to my green apple tree last night, a real bummer.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Just want to make a note about today's inoculating.  Steralized to quart jars of rye grass seed, 60 minutes at 16 psi.  When I went to clean off the injection port of the special lids.  I noticed one had a crack stemming from the GE port.  I decided to see what happens, injected the cultures into their jars.  The crack does not appear to go all the way through.  I covered the crack after removing from the GB, with a clean piece of gorilla tape.  Hoping for the best, knowing the worst can occur.  If this fails I am going to order petri dish cultures next spring from Penn state.  I think I know I would rather work with petri dish wedges much more than LC's.  I also have a white morel, what I believe is deliciosa spores.  Plenty of options, still a good amount of time to find what works and what doesn't.  The crack is one reason that I'd rather start more than what I require, to inoculate the  jars desired.  Petri dishes can offer more sections of culture than an LC.  I think a good dish should get four wedges, from the edges.  I could only do one master spawn with each LC, as don't like top break up an LC.  Hope to see growth in 3 days, more or less.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Seeing growth today.  Temps are about 76 degrees.  I was worried about things, but I am pretty sure this is growth.  I will get some pics up when things progress.  I really hope things go smoothly.  If this didn't work, which it should work, things looked doomed.  I really just would be happy seeing one morel that I planted, grow.  Well, 3-5 pounds a square foot would be a real dream.  But I will take an growth at this point.  I guess white morels just don't like apple wood.  Sometime I will order beech wood and see how white's grow with that.  It seems that whites look like yellows in a lot of peoples pics.  I really liked one pic of a morel with black spore sacks (forget the technical name) and white edges.  The contrast was so beautiful!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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The growth is really taking off.  I think know, looking back, that the white morel spores tried to grow on the apple wood.  Apple wood just will not harbor white morel myc.  After seeing the myc from this yellow morel culture, I see similiar lines against the glass.  The thing is, that I see a lot more fuzzy rizomorphic mycelium on the grain.  I don't think I am going to post anymore.  As I do not get many responses and have not learned much from people here.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
The growth is really taking off.  I think know, looking back, that the white morel spores tried to grow on the apple wood.  Apple wood just will not harbor white morel myc.  After seeing the myc from this yellow morel culture, I see similiar lines against the glass.  The thing is, that I see a lot more fuzzy rizomorphic mycelium on the grain.  I don't think I am going to post anymore.  As I do not get many responses and have not learned much from people here.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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Dont give up posting, I always read what you have to say and I'm sure others do too. Morels are one of the hardest mushrooms to cultivate and not a lot of people have experience with them.

you're doing a service even by posting and documenting your initial efforts into the cultivation of morels.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: deadmandave]
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I don't know why that is funny.  But anyways I am glad the posts are of service.  I have pulled together information from the web and plan on putting it all to the test.  I am afraid of people learningto farm morels from what I may learn or may have already learned.  On the other hand, if farming morels becomes a more common thing then perhaps the buisness will have more respect. 

I guess it could be like farming ginseng.  Although morels should be just like they are in the wild, yet more consistant. 

I might drop by from time to time.  This stuff does grow really fast.  Seems to be mostly growing on the service, the top of the grain.  I have seen some growing all the way to the bottom of one jar but it's just a little bit exploring.


I really don't know why that was funny.  I just don't want to be posting to myself all the time.

I'd like to see people have spores.  The spores are hard to find.  I have only found white morel spores.  Yellow morel spores were sold out at the only location that had them.  There is not a lot of good documentation on morels.  I think people confuse white morels with blonde.  I wish there was more authority on morels.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I'm sure like me many have been reading your posts. Maybe we just don't have much to add. I had success at home outside for a couple years. But i also pick up to 1000 wild morels every year.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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1000 wild mushrooms.  I just can't find any.  If I did find some I would be taking prints and perhaps tissue cultures of large ones.  I have noticed the grain is colonizing towards the top, mostly.  Perhaps it's the frsh air up there.  People don't find many morels around here.  They retail at the local store for $49.99 a pound fresh and $15.99 a half ounce dried.  They sell on ebay for about $30 a pound fresh and half that price dried.  I think farmed morels would be safer.  You don't have the same risk of verpas and you don't have to worry about animals going to the bathroom around your fungi.  It's just an adventure right now.  I have heard of sucess in small operations in backyards.  So that is what I am doing, but trying to expand if things go well.  I have heard of morels popping up/fruiting for up to 20 years after planting.  That makes it viable to plant and expand every year.  I think it's important to find what wood each morel grows on.  I have read conflicting information and have yet to personally confirm any of it.  Wood takes a long time to break down and supports sclerotium.  Those to variables indicate a long life cylce of a crop.  I really want to grow some big ones, but I don't expect to.

The big questions ahead are, will the different morels colonize the substrates I have planned and what will yeild be from each quart jar.  There is also always the question of contaimination rates.  I really just want to find out what yeild is for my substrate mix. 


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Here in Ohio we target dead elm and Live ash trees . I would think some nice shredded bark from a dead elm would work nicely. And i don't even pick the half frees hardly because i find enough "sponge" to be happy. I just dumped some rinse water and old shrooms near an ash tree, and in my flower bed. Within 2 years i had a bumper crop. But now only every other year it seems.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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If it's every other year it may be due to moisture being low.  Blonde morels are said to love apple orchards.  I think apple is good for these, some say beech too.  I think beech may, may be good for white morels.  I am pretty sure black morels like oak.  I can get clean saw dust from core cuts, of all these types of wood.  I am in Ohio as well.  I don't have many places to hunt for morels.  We don't have the right tree's at the farm.  There are two apples and some cherry tree's, both are said to support blondes.  There are also cat's around these tree's.  Some crazy lady feeds them and builds plastic homes for them.  She lives across the street and drops off new cats.  It really pisses the family off.  I would plant blondes around these two large apple tree's, but the cats are an issue. 

If blondes colonize apple wood, I will try whites with beech.  Then blacks with oak.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Yes blacks do like oak it seems. I find roughly 300-400 blacks each year. I only hunt one spot at a state park near me and find all there. But dead or dying elm are the real ticket to huge flushes. I found around 60 or so around one elm that was broke off about 6 feet from the ground this year. If you are interested i can see about getting some spore prints next year.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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Sounds good.  I doubt trades are allowed on here, but it would be good to swap different genetics.  I would like some diversity in the garden.  All one culture or just two could have issues.  I am trying to post some pics of my jars.  Seems my cell phone is in the wrong format.  I saved to facebook then saved from there, hope the format is right.





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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Wow, they posted!  Injected sat.....today is tues.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Nice. Yes trades are allowed on this site. Check out the Marketplace thread.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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Cool.  I expect to atleast get fruits for spores, at the least.  I also plan on getting different cultures over the years.  This is really a start.  I have only worked with cubes before.  Morels look so pretty.  I just want thousands and thousands.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Yeah in my opinion morels are the most beautiful mushroom out there. Ihave quite a few pics from this years finds.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: B_BOY]
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How much weight is in your sig pic?


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I am not going to work with these master grain jars, as I had planned.  I really believe that I'd rather tryto work with cultures from Penn State.  I can start with a viriety of very specific and thoroughly identified cultuers.  I have been excited to work with petri dishes and buying them makes it all the more simple.  I'd rather purchase books on the topic of Morels, and read these over the winter.  I would feel a lot more confident in selling morels and spore prints if I can say that they came from a State University Mycology Department.

Plus. stupid me!!!  I didn't cook the grain, thought I could get away with that one.  Oh well, mistakes are costly but not as much as giving up, without having learned lessons. 

I dont believe these grain jars will colonize smoothly, stupid me but much smarter in the long run...and that is what I am woprking towards.

I will be back to post things I learn from reading, thoughts about this and that, regarding Morels and their cultivability.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I did come across some interesting information.  I read that 1/2 strength coffee helps sclerotium form.  I believe, using it for a single master grain jar, cooking the grain in 1/2 strength coffee, should be a fair test.  If I see more sclerotia, I will soak and cook with coffee, perhaps just cook with coffee.  There are likely many tricks to getting healthy sclerotium.  Temps and time seem to be the basics!


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