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Invisiblecarbonhoots
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Socialist FAQ
    #1796092 - 08/09/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Invisiblebivalve
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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1796358 - 08/09/03 09:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Are you a socialist?



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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1796622 - 08/09/03 11:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

that whole thing is a bunch of high flying wordiness without any concrete description or clear definition.

i don't think it was well written, interesting, or informative.

my own political opinions aside, i do believe that that page is garbage.


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Anonymous

Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: ]
    #1797091 - 08/10/03 02:22 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. Down with socialism, up with capitalism!


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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1797114 - 08/10/03 02:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Nice post carbon. Lot of interesting points.

But the real goal of competition is to dominate or monopolize the market so that competition disappears and prices can be set high or market share be increased. Then when market control expands far enough, prices can be expected to be raised as much as the market will bear. Put another way, the final purpose of competition in capitalism is to end or reduce competition!


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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: ]
    #1801160 - 08/11/03 11:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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my own political opinions aside,




Really?  :smirk: 


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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: GazzBut]
    #1801382 - 08/11/03 01:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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GazzBut said:
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my own political opinions aside,




Really?  :smirk:   



Yes, really.  Politically, I'm a lot closer to the Socialists than mushmaster, but I have to agree with him that the FAQ was rather poorly made, without providing very much information that made any sense.  Also, I'd say that from the information it did provide, it is far from representative of the views of most socialists.


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Re: Socialist FAQ [Re: silversoul7]
    #1801681 - 08/11/03 02:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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For example, to maximize profits, unemployment is necessary in order to weaken the bargaining power of working people seeking higher pay or better benefits and working conditions, because workers know that others are competing for their jobs. Unemployment creates insecurity and poverty and pits worker against worker, often along lines of race, ethnicity or class, where those who are lower on the economic ladder or differ in some way are made to appear your competitors or willing to work for less.





well... I'd like to hear your refutation to this ^.


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