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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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you guys are gonna so regret it when the apocalypse comes :whistling:


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: quinn]
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i also signed a contract btw and now i have to sit on a chair in a building and click on a screen in a timely and nonsuspicious way, and occasionally interact with people... but really im listing to richie hawtin and browsing shroomery graemlins so whos actually winning?


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: quinn]
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quinn said:
you guys are gonna so regret it when the apocalypse comes :whistling:


Not so! One night a couple years ago, sleep-deprived, malnourished, hung-over, tripping on acid, and bored enough to read the Bible, I accidentally let Jesus into my heart. :feelsweirdman:

Now I'm saved! I don't even have to go to church or talk or think about it. Or anything, for that matter. God bless Martin Luther for showing us the Way! :feelsgoodman:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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did he give a decent blowjob?


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: quinn]
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I think that it's stupid to generalize our thoughts into either we think for ourselves or something thinks for us. I have moments where I am definitely not myself and I have moments where I feel it came from the heart and believe it was completely myself. In the end it's impossible to tell but I doubt the world would be so easy to decipher as black or white.


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Mad Season]
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o this song totally belongs in this thread.


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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BlindSophist said:
zzripz said:
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There's nothing devious or covert about indoctrination


have you seen the friggin vid. What are you going on about?


I haven't watched the vid yet, I will tonight. That said, perhaps my intended meaning would be clearer if I had said "there's nothing inherently devious or covert about indoctrination".

Without indoctrination you have no education, no language, no culture. Without his ability to be indoctrinated, a man would be a clumsy deformed chimp.


That is a very typically elitist idea and thing to say, and also is an insult to chimpanzees!

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: quinn]
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amazing track!!

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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:yesnod:


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
BlindSophist said:
zzripz said:
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There's nothing devious or covert about indoctrination


have you seen the friggin vid. What are you going on about?


I haven't watched the vid yet, I will tonight. That said, perhaps my intended meaning would be clearer if I had said "there's nothing inherently devious or covert about indoctrination".

Without indoctrination you have no education, no language, no culture. Without his ability to be indoctrinated, a man would be a clumsy deformed chimp.


That is a very typically elitist idea and thing to say, and also is an insult to chimpanzees!


Yeah, but what enabled you to communicate with me this way? Grunts and wars fought with fecal projectiles?


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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yeh better wars ftw!


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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first of all, have you now seen the video?

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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quinn said:
yeh better wars ftw!


Come to think of it, I WOULD rather be hit by flying poop than conventional explosives. :strokebeard3:

zzripz said:
first of all, have you now seen the video?


My procrastination habit got the better of me. I'm currently taking a quick procrastination break on the studying I already procrastinated upon in the first place to quickly check-up on the Shroomery. Basically, I'm procrastinating on procrastination about procrastination. Procrastination multiplies itself exponentially, so I'm pretty much fucked. I'll watch the video tomorrow (today) after my quiz. :lol:

Can you give me a brief rundown on how it explains that indoctrination is inherently bad? I'm kinda committed to it (between bouts of procrastination), what with being a student. :omgz:


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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sure, watch this video

John Taylor Gatto in "IndoctriNation"


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz] * 1
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The video is only four mins long!!!!  This thread is quickly losing its potential lol


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Seekingtruth]
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most replies to threads at these forums are about 5 words. whaddya want from meee?

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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When people think of thinking do you think of words spoken aloud in the mind, or do you include images flowing past as well?

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
How do you know your thinking is yours? And is this question a good one? Is there authentic thinking. I am seriously trying to explore this and am not coming from a higher place than you who knows the answers though of course I have ideas.

Say that the way you think has been manipulated. HOW would you know it was, because the very way you think has been implanted into you by devious covert means. So how could you see this and then unravel the ways it's been done and see through it happening again, or now?

Take a look at this video and let me know what you T H I N K?

Edward Bernays 1: Torches of Freedom - Stuff They Don't Want You To Know




If it's not one thing influencing thinking it's another. That's how I see it anyways. The ping-pong of the mind. PING info bounces in PONG info bounces out. Not always so similar of course. Sometimes it's more of a PING-WRONG. What bounces in is checked against what we already know. How we come to know what we already know, well, trace your life backwards I guess :shrug:


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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: Kickle]
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So all this copyright control-freakier y is shit isn't it?

If you saw the OP video you see that this character Edward Bernays utilizes techniques he learned from his uncle Sigmund Freud how to get women to smoke. By implanting ideas into their minds and creating self-images such as 'if you smoke it means you are a liberated woman'. But this is sick (and that aint good) because what is liberating being addicted to nicotine which can kill you?? So many womens thinking had been hijacked hadn't it?

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Re: How do you know your thinking is yours?? [Re: zzripz]
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............so the main purpose of this inquiry is to wonder that IF our thinking has been/is being hijacked---which is very likely--- what are the ways and means we can see this happening and undermine it. One of the ways is studying that REAL history which includes devious shit Ed Bernays and his cronies dirty doings

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