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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Yellow Morel culture just arrived, looks great!!!!  Ordered from outgrow

I plan on growing the culture via karo tek on the 11th.


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Edited by Morel Guy (02/04/13 11:52 AM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Poked 5 holes in 9 cases today and put micro-pore tape and silcone on 2 cases.  Not sure how well micro-pore tape will hold up.  I tested a piece on a caserole dish lid and boiled water in the dish, held up but slide off easily.  I saw a thread on micro-pore tape, a microscope was used and its not the best stuff.  I wish I could afford the lids I got from outgrow for all the jars but its just not in the budget.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Go to hobby lobby and buy "easy felt" it's like 75 cents for a sheet.  two sheets should do all of your cases of jars easily.

Here's a link to transcending life's lids

He uses synthetic filter disks, but the "easy felt" at the craft store is pretty much the same material. 

It's way cheaper than polypore tape, and it's WAY more effective.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: indocult]
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Another well tested filter is polyfil. Also can be had at a craft store, it's used for pillow stuffing and it is very cheap.

When it is stuffed tightly through a hole in a lid it acts as a great filter.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: deadmandave]
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deadmandave said:
Another well tested filter is polyfil. Also can be had at a craft store, it's used for pillow stuffing and it is very cheap.

When it is stuffed tightly through a hole in a lid it acts as a great filter.



I am having a hard time visualizing how to do that.  I only did two cases but the holes are in 9.  I would really like the spawn jar lids that are almost $6 a piece but that's pricey!!!!

EDIT:  I am looking into EZ felt, looks easy enough..  I wonder if I should of used bags, they already have a filter but I have never used those before.  If I do go ahead with the easy felt that will take some skill and I will have to buy new lids for two cases....thank god those are cheap!


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Edited by Morel Guy (02/06/13 06:30 AM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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It just takes time, no skill necessary.  Just trace a quarter or some large coin with a marker or pen over and over on the sheet and go back and cut out all of those circles.
When you are ready to use it, line the very edge of the circle with fresh silicone (wear gloves or it's getting on your hands) and place is over your gas exchange hole.  Press from the middle to the outside and wait for it to dry.  Done.

Poly fill is a bit of a pain and looks trashy.  You have to figure out how much you want to use per jar, then roll it into a ball and kind of smash and turn it in the hole so it fits snug. 

Have you started your morel culture in the karo/water mixture yet?  I'm curious to see how well it works, my culture should arrive today.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: indocult]
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LC willbe done monday the 11th.  I am going to use squares on my jars since I already have holes.  I have five holes all nail size.  The four corner holes will have silicone for self healing injection points and the center will have the square ez felt at a diamond angle.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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sounds good to me.  I guess my culture won't be here until tomorrow, I'll be starting it in water/karo solution (96%h2o/4%karo) as soon as I get it.  I'll update with results.

I wish I could go to China, clearly they have learned how to do it there.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: indocult]
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One word of caution with LC's, specificly LC's from others(even vendors). Over the past year I've dealt with quite a few. Contams are HIGHLY common and mis-labeling is frequent. And everyone of these came from reputable board sponsors.

I will never grow a LC before watching it on agar and then doing a small test run before jumping into larger production. I've had my mistakes, can you say 30 blocks of tiger mushrooms!!

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Kyuule]
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They would have to be running a very disorganized shop to mislabel cultures.  I hope its all good, if not I will hunt for the morel I want and take a tissue culture.  I have seen spores for black and white morels but not yellows. 

I did more shopping today, didn't get apple wood chips yet cause where I went they had basically sawdust.  Going to lowes tomarrow, they have 8 bags of chips in stock and I need 5.  Planning on getting more jars and EZ felt as well.........can't wait!!!!

Let me know how yours goes Indocult, what morel did you get and from who?

EDTIT:  My LC will actually be about 4.9% karo.  Does anybody know if I must inject air into the lids I got from outgrow or are they passive gas exchange?


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Edited by Morel Guy (02/06/13 02:02 PM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Kyuule]
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Kyuule said:
One word of caution with LC's, specificly LC's from others(even vendors). Over the past year I've dealt with quite a few. Contams are HIGHLY common and mis-labeling is frequent. And everyone of these came from reputable board sponsors.

I will never grow a LC before watching it on agar and then doing a small test run before jumping into larger production. I've had my mistakes, can you say 30 blocks of tiger mushrooms!!


I have ordered many culture syringes from sporeworks(everythingmushrooms) and have never had a problem.  There LCs do not have an nutrients in them like LCs commonly made on here, but are instead blendered plates.  I have never had much luck making the karo lcs myself.

IF you dont have the setup to do blend up plates I have made an lc by taking a colonized grain jar, breaking it up, injected sterilized water and then  sucking it back out after shaking it up.  The lc worked extremely well and then i still spawned the grain without contam problems.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: johnny.fairplay]
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Never thought about breaking up plates but thats a damn good idea!!!!  I just hope it's not a verpa culture cause I don't want that all over my back yard.  I just called outgrow and the lids breath passively so that is what I expected....good news so far and I have faith in the culture....it looks like a morel culture, sandy brown but I do not know what a verpa culture looks like...I have faith, hope atleast!!!


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I couldn't find ez felt, went to joann fabrics and pat catans.  I did find something that looks really good, its 72F Peltex Ultra.  This looks like the next best thing to a hepa filter...also got 6 more cases and going to try to find 2 more today.

The stuff is actually called Pellon, Peltex I think is the brand.  I also got 5 bags of apple wood chips.  Pretty much have everythng except 2 more cases of jars and surely more distilled water...I have 8 gallons of that...wonder how much I will need.


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Edited by Morel Guy (02/07/13 08:40 AM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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I'll have to look into this peltex stuff. It sounds good though.

I actually traded with a member on here for some black morel culture. He got it from another member on here in another trade.  He wasn't going to use it so I wanted it.    I'll have to do some investigating to find the original source, haha.

I did the trade because EVERY time I try to get morel culture, every site I use and trust is sold out.  So I got fed up and did some trading thanks to the marketplace forum on here.


Do you not have a hobby lobby or a michael's near you?

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: indocult]
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No stores like that around here, but this pellon stuff is awesome.  I felt like I was cutting blotter, it was great.......100x better than micropore tape and looks 10x better than felt.  Its kinda thick and made of polyester so its sorta rigid like blotter sheets...I am going to cut the holes in my glove box tomarrow.  I also picked up some gloves for delivering calves, they are shoulder lenght. 



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Edited by Morel Guy (02/16/13 01:29 PM)

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Test a few jars using pelltex to see if it will work for mycology. Cook up a batch of grains, sterilize and inoculate a few of them. Leave a couple without inoculation, see if any contaminate.

I wouldn't risk 17 cases of jars on a brand new filter that has never been tested.

If you cant find ez felt or stiffened felt try polyfil! it is very cheap and like indocult said, all you have to do is wad it up tightly and pull it through a hole in the lid. I use one 1/4 inch hole per lid.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: deadmandave]
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I am going to test 2 cases once the LC is ready, haven't started that yet either.  Fact is my substrate is not tested either, but I feel pretty good about the pello........it looks close to a hepa filter and I got 72F weight.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got two more cases of jars, glad that is done.  The only thing left to buy is some sand and a lot of that.  Cut the holes into the glove box, that went well and the filter is curing at the moment.  I am going to poke the rest of the holes in jar lids tomarrow and silcone the filters and injection points on 2 cases.......for a test run once the LC is good.


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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: Morel Guy]
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definitely don't forget to wear latex or vinyl gloves for the silicone.  That stuff sucks on your hands.

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Re: I want to grow Morels outside [Re: indocult]
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got my cultures on friday! the black was a bust but the blonde is nuts. ive already made a few new petris and plan on getting them on grain and test some on rye grass seed . then figure out the plan of attack i guess.

growing blacks seems so much more logical, planting the spawn in charcoal and wood chips .
But where to plant the blondes? i am thinking i need to be growing sclerotia first ? and planting that around a good stand of cottonwoods? and also planting sawdust spawn and spreading cottonwood chips? then just covering it with leaf litter and shit ?

there is so much morel cultivation talk around but half the time its one species another time its another species and its hard to see whats good for just blondes.


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