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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Evolution vs Creation *DELETED* [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 2
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Aiko Aiko said:
Why couldn't a creator have created evolution?



Who says it couldn't have? Why does it have to be so black and white as there is seemingly no other options. It is idiotic to create imaginary figures to fill the voids where we lack the factual answers. It is a simple ploy of control through the determination of your afterlife which equates to "eternity".

I'm not one to deny any possibility of a creator, just waiting on such a being to reveal it's self to us in such a way that is it verifiable through evidence, analysis and direct proof.

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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: uber_aj] * 1
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And where did the laws of nature come from? Have they always been? Where did the big bang come from, does matter spontaneously appear out of nothing?


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 2
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Aiko Aiko said:
lar20 said:
Aiko Aiko said:
Why not just let us die out, survival of the fittest :shrug:



Because then everything would die out because they never evolved to be perfectly suited to their habitat.



Many species have died out from natural selection, what made up special?



whos to say we arent still going to die out? its completely possible that we're going to die from our own stupid mistakes. or natures choice.


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: mrlame] * 1
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mrlame said:
lar20 said:
Aiko Aiko said:
Why did we "evolve" into a reasoning being?



the point of evolution is for something to turn into a creature that can survive in its habitat. crocodiles havent evolved into intelligent beings because they have no need to. Humans are relatively weak in the physical department. Living in a jungle for example we would get torn a new asshole if all we had going for us was brute strength to survive. so instead we have intelligents.



then why arent any other weak animals in the jungle evolving (they also have been on this planet longer than us



How are they not evolving? and what weak animals do you speak of? every animal has some kind of advantage one way or another.


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: SoreSpore] * 1
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SoreSpore said:
Aiko Aiko said:
Why couldn't a creator have created evolution?



Who says it couldn't have? Why does it have to be so black and white as there is seemingly no other options. It is idiotic to create imaginary figures to fill the voids where we lack the factual answers. It is a simple ploy of control through the determination of your afterlife which equates to "eternity".

I'm not one to deny any possibility of a creator, just waiting on such a being to reveal it's self to us in such a way that is it verifiable through evidence, analysis and direct proof.



So you are one that only believes in empirically provable evidence? Do you believe human knowledge is the only knowledge?


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 1
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Mind you, I never said I dont believe in evolution, thats key..I'm trying to harmonize creation with evolution. :cool:


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: uber_aj] * 1
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uber_aj said:
mrlame said:
lar20 said:
Aiko Aiko said:
Why did we "evolve" into a reasoning being?



the point of evolution is for something to turn into a creature that can survive in its habitat. crocodiles havent evolved into intelligent beings because they have no need to. Humans are relatively weak in the physical department. Living in a jungle for example we would get torn a new asshole if all we had going for us was brute strength to survive. so instead we have intelligents.



then why arent any other weak animals in the jungle evolving (they also have been on this planet longer than us



You don't think there are animals evolving in the jungle? Why not?

I hear this argument a lot, that if evolution were true, why aren't there other talking monkeys?

There were, we call them Homo Neanderthalis, they're all dead and it's likely that we contributed to their demise. You think a violent, dominating, intelligent race like ours is going to share this planet? Hah, we barely get along with members of our own species who have slightly different skin tones.



evolving like in intelligence and consciousness... we are the only species to have a conscious/judgement...y?

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if your going to get on this subject, know what your talking about, dont just prov or disprov; look at the evidence, (suck at spelling) if u actually look in the bible, and try to disprove it, the more you'll find its proof; same goes for evolution, so what do u do. take the good and bad from both sides, and actualy use your heart and mind. people who typicly believe in evolution call themselves athiests, wich is stupid, because your god, or faith in evolution, is your religion. but to say that evolution doesnt happen is also ignorent, so ....

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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: Aiko Aiko]
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Aiko Aiko said:
Meaning evolution was created?




yes. by us. there is also a source of all things..i think we are 'co-creators'

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creation is a force that encompasses all of existence. creation is existence in and of itself, and everything created out of existence is already a part of existence and always had been since the beginning of time.

no energy created nor destroyed, only manipulated and reconfigured. all within existence

the universe began as a single point, and now the universe is incomprehensibly large and continues to expand AT AN ACCELERATING FUCKING RATE

"creation" wasn't some "thing" that happened a long time ago. it's still happening RIGHT NOW. it never stopped..

evolution is an expression of creation. evolution is the changing of form within existence. the progression of transformation within creation is expressed through evolution. it exhibits qualities of transience and impermanence while also being the driving force/ propelling engine of change and movement.

therefore


evolution = time
creation = space


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Re: Evolution vs Creation [Re: uber_aj]
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you can't have one without the other :yinyang2:

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