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venetianblinds said: time to cout down on the booze perhaps?

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venetianblinds said:

first, i have to say i had a little to drink last night. it wasnt a large amount, i'd say i was drunken but i wasn't drunk. so it's probably an important detail.


i was watching a poker tournament and sat down after i got some orange juice, after several minutes i stood up and took a drink. i felt a headrush coming on, fuzzy vision and fuzzy loud auditory effects, but that was normal


suddenly i was writhing on the floor, scratching my head HARD, digging my nails in, moving my body and legs. i heard a caucophony of noise and saw hallucinations i cant even describe. the noise was an echo of the poker commentary in the style of that jumble at the end of "a day in the life". it was all strange because as i slowly began to realize what was going on, i couldnt control my movement, i wanted to stop itching my head but i couldnt for a while. eventually my sight came back and the audio stopped. it was the closest thing i've ever felt to being an actual madman in a nuthouse.

my drink was spilled all over the place and my nose was burning from when i collapsed mid drink. time to cout down on the booze perhaps?

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koods said:

What happened to you is called orthostatic hypotension. When you stand up, your body must compensate for the force of gravity pulling the blood out of your head. It does this by constricting the vessels in the lower part of the body. If it can't respond quickly enough, blood flow to your brain is reduced and you start to lose consciousness. Passing out has the benefit of lowering your head to the same level as everything else, so it is pretty effective at solving the immediate problem.

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BlindSophist said:

I have headrushes that knock me out from time to time, due to hypotension, but that sounds more like a seizure to me.

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Convulsions are an integral component of the brain's response to hypoxia. In experimental series, they represent the rule rather than the exception. Whether or not syncope manifests with convulsions depends on the degree of cerebral hypoxia (Passman et al 2003). Experimental syncope has been induced by various means such as the Valsalva maneuver, a combination of hyperventilation and Valsalva, exposure to acceleration on a centrifuge, venipuncture and blood loss, ocular compression, and ventricular arrhythmia; but the clinical phenomenology has proven to be consistent, irrespective of the procedure. Reported frequencies of syncopal convulsions vary from 12% (Lin et al 1982) to 100% (Rossen et al 1943); when film or video recordings were employed, they were observed in the order of 70% to 90% (Duvoisin 1962; Aminoff et al 1988; Whinnery and Whinnery 1990; Lempert et al 1994a). However, syncopal convulsions may be overlooked because of their fleeting nature and variable intensity. In clinical case series, convulsions have been witnessed in 5% to 12% of patients with vasovagal (neurally-mediated) syncope and in 15% of patients with various causes of syncope (Alboni et al 2001; Graham and Kenny 2001; Sheldon et al 2002). Syncope induced by head-up tilt was found to be complicated by convulsions in 7% of adult patients in a retrospective study (Passman et al 2003) and in 12% of prospectively studied pediatric patients (Fernandez Sanmartin et al 2003). In a video-based series, 53% of patients had involuntary movements during tilt-induced syncope (LaRoche et al 2011). Carotid sinus syncope during carotid angioplasty was convulsive in 79% (Martinez-Fernandez et al 2007). Convulsive syncope may point to an underlying cardiac arrhythmia rather than a vasovagal or orthostatic origin (Del Rosso et al 2005; Kanjwal et al 2009a; MacCormick et al 2011).
  Syncopal myoclonus may manifest itself as anything from a single twitch of the mouth to a storm of violent jerks affecting the entire body. It is often multifocal with asynchronous muscle jerks in different parts of the body.  Alternatively, the syncope may be generalized with a few jerks of bilateral synchronous muscle activation. Both forms of myoclonus may occur during an attack. Proximal and distal muscles are equally affected, and facial involvement is common. In contrast to epileptic muscle activity, syncopal myoclonus is not rhythmic and is only rarely sustained for more than half a minute (Lempert et al 1994a).
  Tonic muscle activity during syncope typically consists of head and body extension with either flexion or extension of the arms and sometimes clenching of the fists (Gastaut and Fischer-Williams 1957; Duvoisin 1962; Lin et al 1982). The intensity of the tonic component appears to be most pronounced in asystolic syncope with total cessation of cerebral blood flow. Brief but intense opisthotonic stiffening is also a common accompaniment of breath-holding attacks and other forms of childhood syncope (Stephenson 1990; Breningstall 1996; Fernandez Sanmartin et al 2003). When tonic body extension starts early in the course of syncope, a stiff fall may ensue rather than the usual flaccid sinking to the ground.
  In addition to these elementary motor phenomena, syncope may also produce more complex movements (Stephenson 1990; Lempert et al 1994a), including lip-licking, chewing, fumbling, reaching for the head, head turns, head raising, and sitting up or standing up while still being unresponsive and amnesic.  These movements are mostly short and solitary rather than repetitive. Vocalizations in the form of moaning or growling are common.

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elax420 said:

I used to try to get that to happen when i was a lil kid lol i loved that shit. Probably the reason i tried drugs in the first place.

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You must be a huge fan of salvia.

BlindSophist said:

elax420 said:

I used to try to get that to happen when i was a lil kid lol i loved that shit. Probably the reason i tried drugs in the first place.

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You must be a huge fan of salvia.

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openmind said:

A very similar thing happened to me a while back...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13062571






It was weird...had somewhat of dissociative/psychedelic aspect to it.







-OM


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moonrockmushy said:

I used to get alot of head rushes while standing up before I started running everyday.  Maybe pick up an exercise routiene.
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