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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
Anonymous #25 said:
OP: I agree with you, well said. Tattoos are nasty and the mark of poor judgement, ciggs are for nasty and pointless.

The whole religion being identified with conformity is bullshit. You cannot pigeon-hole every religion under the same methodology. I condemn any religious belief not based upon reason, with a strong dose of intuition that follows. I was Christian until I learned about Islam.



But all of religion is based on conforming to said religions standards.

Guitaristjon22



There are so many ways to interpret a religion that there is no single unified way of perceiving sans the few key foundational beliefs. As you will note: Protestantism vs Catholicism, Sunni vs Shia, and not to mention the million different sects of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam not mentioned.

Believing in a few foundational axioms does not amount to belief into a single unified way of perceiving. It's kinda like believing in Newtonian physics and that large masses behave a certain way, but remaining undecided on how the smaller micro-masses behave (i.e. the whole 'quantum' debate).

You can adhere to these main physical principle and still hash out the details through exploration. The exploration employed in physical nature will be through science and observation, while the exploration of the religious will be through rationality and intuition. True religion discovered exerts such a force to be considered psychologically coercive, i.e. you cannot help but acquiesce to the belief.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #25]
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Everybody knows people perceive things in different ways but by adhering to said main physical principles you are conforming your views unless you yourself have come up with these principles. Principles based on Facts.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
Everybody knows people perceive things in different ways but by adhering to said main physical principles you are conforming your views unless you yourself have come up with these principles. Principles based on Facts.



You are "perceiving" natural phenomena and attributing to it a law-like manner of action based on inductive inference. You cannot know or perceive this natural law. It is only arrived at through observation and inductive inference from seeing action B follow action A after every event.

Believing in physicals laws requires believing in the philosophy of science. But this philosophy is no more real than belief in foundational axioms of God. You cannot see facts.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #25]
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How do you know what i can see?

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
How do you know what i can see?



I know what you cannot see. You, nor anyone else, can literally see facts. Facts are based upon belief systems, belief systems aim to fit the world and describe it. You can no sooner see a fact as you can see an idea, I am not being metaphorical but literal.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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People are free to do what they want, but cigarettes and tattoos don't really make sense to me either. They are luxuries that many people who do/have them cannot afford socially, financially, or in terms of health.

Tattoos are one of the few permanent things in this life you get to choose. Health, wealth, thoughts, and looks all aren't permanent at all, but you're right your tattoos will be with you until the day you die. Why you would want that sort of permanence for something so inane is beyond me.

As for smoking cigarettes, if I wasn't such a freaking liberal hippie then I'd argue that cigarettes should actually be outlawed, but you have the right to put whatever into your own body. Just know that cigarettes are terrible for your health even outside of lung cancer. Once you stop feeling invincible and start caring about your health you might consider quitting.

I guess if it makes you happy and it doesn't hurt anyone else. :shrug:

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
People are allowed to have opinions, man.  And guess what?  Everybody thinks their own opinion is the only right one!

Stop trying to control what other people do when it doesn't affect your life in any way, whether or not they do said things, or you might end up with a new nickname - Government.

P.S. - I'm a non-smoker with no tattoos.



I support smokers rights and tattoo "rights" or whatever, lol. Im personally a libertarian and support these freedoms, but i just think they are fucking retarded

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
I dont care how rich you are, how educated you are, or whatever the fuck. The following 2 things and my opinion of you goes down twentyfold;

Tattoos: art goes on paper, portrait, etc...not your OWN FUCKING BODY. someone who treats their own skin as some sort of mourrell i just have no respect for

"ohh but its my life motto" well why the fuck do you need to plaster it over your body? wtf?

"oh but my sister got hit by a drive by and these are her initials rip" put it on her fucking gravestone not on your wrist you dumb fuck



Cigarettes: cancer sticks that dont even get you high....i dont even feel the need to elaborate on this. this should be self explanatory



any of these two and i view you as white trash right off the bat. dont get me wrong ill still be friends and hang, get to know you, w/e...im just giving off my impressions of this stuff and how fucking idiotic it seems.


if someone i never met who has a tattoo and is smoking a cig i would think likely is a deadbeat working dead end jobs



I have no tattoos. But i smoke cigs, along with hookah, cigars, and pipe. You wouldn't think those other 3 are trashy would you? I am still pondering my wants for a tattoo. Probably will be something spiritual.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #28]
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Anonymous #28 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
I dont care how rich you are, how educated you are, or whatever the fuck. The following 2 things and my opinion of you goes down twentyfold;

Tattoos: art goes on paper, portrait, etc...not your OWN FUCKING BODY. someone who treats their own skin as some sort of mourrell i just have no respect for

"ohh but its my life motto" well why the fuck do you need to plaster it over your body? wtf?

"oh but my sister got hit by a drive by and these are her initials rip" put it on her fucking gravestone not on your wrist you dumb fuck



Cigarettes: cancer sticks that dont even get you high....i dont even feel the need to elaborate on this. this should be self explanatory



any of these two and i view you as white trash right off the bat. dont get me wrong ill still be friends and hang, get to know you, w/e...im just giving off my impressions of this stuff and how fucking idiotic it seems.


if someone i never met who has a tattoo and is smoking a cig i would think likely is a deadbeat working dead end jobs



I have no tattoos. But i smoke cigs, along with hookah, cigars, and pipe. You wouldn't think those other 3 are trashy would you? I am still pondering my wants for a tattoo. Probably will be something spiritual.



cigars i see as much more classy...you arent inhaling the smoke so the cancer risk is much lower. its like a fine wine.

hookah seems like its one grade above cig smoking on the trashy scale, i am not familiar with it though

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #28 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
I dont care how rich you are, how educated you are, or whatever the fuck. The following 2 things and my opinion of you goes down twentyfold;

Tattoos: art goes on paper, portrait, etc...not your OWN FUCKING BODY. someone who treats their own skin as some sort of mourrell i just have no respect for

"ohh but its my life motto" well why the fuck do you need to plaster it over your body? wtf?

"oh but my sister got hit by a drive by and these are her initials rip" put it on her fucking gravestone not on your wrist you dumb fuck



Cigarettes: cancer sticks that dont even get you high....i dont even feel the need to elaborate on this. this should be self explanatory



any of these two and i view you as white trash right off the bat. dont get me wrong ill still be friends and hang, get to know you, w/e...im just giving off my impressions of this stuff and how fucking idiotic it seems.


if someone i never met who has a tattoo and is smoking a cig i would think likely is a deadbeat working dead end jobs



I have no tattoos. But i smoke cigs, along with hookah, cigars, and pipe. You wouldn't think those other 3 are trashy would you? I am still pondering my wants for a tattoo. Probably will be something spiritual.



cigars i see as much more classy...you arent inhaling the smoke so the cancer risk is much lower. its like a fine wine.

hookah seems like its one grade above cig smoking on the trashy scale, i am not familiar with it though



I don't inhale a hookah either, nor with pipe. Pipe is some damn fine smoking. Hookah is fun, but not an everyday thing.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #28 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
I dont care how rich you are, how educated you are, or whatever the fuck. The following 2 things and my opinion of you goes down twentyfold;

Tattoos: art goes on paper, portrait, etc...not your OWN FUCKING BODY. someone who treats their own skin as some sort of mourrell i just have no respect for

"ohh but its my life motto" well why the fuck do you need to plaster it over your body? wtf?

"oh but my sister got hit by a drive by and these are her initials rip" put it on her fucking gravestone not on your wrist you dumb fuck



Cigarettes: cancer sticks that dont even get you high....i dont even feel the need to elaborate on this. this should be self explanatory



any of these two and i view you as white trash right off the bat. dont get me wrong ill still be friends and hang, get to know you, w/e...im just giving off my impressions of this stuff and how fucking idiotic it seems.


if someone i never met who has a tattoo and is smoking a cig i would think likely is a deadbeat working dead end jobs



I have no tattoos. But i smoke cigs, along with hookah, cigars, and pipe. You wouldn't think those other 3 are trashy would you? I am still pondering my wants for a tattoo. Probably will be something spiritual.



cigars i see as much more classy...you arent inhaling the smoke so the cancer risk is much lower. its like a fine wine.

hookah seems like its one grade above cig smoking on the trashy scale, i am not familiar with it though



Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #28 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
I dont care how rich you are, how educated you are, or whatever the fuck. The following 2 things and my opinion of you goes down twentyfold;

Tattoos: art goes on paper, portrait, etc...not your OWN FUCKING BODY. someone who treats their own skin as some sort of mourrell i just have no respect for

"ohh but its my life motto" well why the fuck do you need to plaster it over your body? wtf?

"oh but my sister got hit by a drive by and these are her initials rip" put it on her fucking gravestone not on your wrist you dumb fuck



Cigarettes: cancer sticks that dont even get you high....i dont even feel the need to elaborate on this. this should be self explanatory



any of these two and i view you as white trash right off the bat. dont get me wrong ill still be friends and hang, get to know you, w/e...im just giving off my impressions of this stuff and how fucking idiotic it seems.


if someone i never met who has a tattoo and is smoking a cig i would think likely is a deadbeat working dead end jobs



I have no tattoos. But i smoke cigs, along with hookah, cigars, and pipe. You wouldn't think those other 3 are trashy would you? I am still pondering my wants for a tattoo. Probably will be something spiritual.



cigars i see as much more classy...you arent inhaling the smoke so the cancer risk is much lower. its like a fine wine.

hookah seems like its one grade above cig smoking on the trashy scale, i am not familiar with it though



Spirituality is on the inside, not the outside. Start with some introspection before trying get spiritual. The spirit is everlasting, the body is not- therefore make the mind spiritual and leave the body pure. IMHO

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #25]
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:lol: Your speaking to the satanist douchebag-king klick. So i'm not to concerned about how spirituality works. Thanks for the advise though.

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Re: 2 things I find VERY trashy..... [Re: Anonymous #28]
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#1, I find it rather annoying how ignorant you are. Let people do what they want, it's not hurting anybody else. You should learn to stop being so closed-minded.

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