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InvisibleMOTH
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Newbies unite! The stress of waiting.
    #1662689 - 06/25/03 10:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hehe...well judging from the amount of newbie posts, my kitten isn't the only one suffering the anxiety of waiting for spores to arrive, colonization to occur, potential fruting, or contams that could ruin it all.  Who else is being driven crazy by waiting??!!  Do you fear that something went wrong along the way??

My kitten just innoculated today and fears that she did several things wrong on her first try.  She did 5 Puerto Ricans and 7 Africans, only because she spurted too much spore juice in the PR's.  Already she has had confirmation that those jars she waterlogged might meet their doom within the next few days.  Who else has done something like this?    :grin:

She is worried about contaminations or no growth.  Two things every newbie grower worries about.  The fear is real!!  :shocked: 

Share stories newbie growers, or even old-timers at the craft!

truly,
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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662705 - 06/25/03 10:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i'm in the waiting for the spores to arrive stage. i just ordered them 10 minutes ago.


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662723 - 06/25/03 10:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

  I remember my bunni's first grow , it was'nt all that long ago. Every jar that was innoculated died except for one. Every shroom that flushed was like perfect, even the mutant. Anyways...
  Just remember to be patient and that you will loose some but the one's that do make it you can kick back and really apprieciate and enjoy them more than ever before.

                    :grin: Good Luck!!


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662725 - 06/25/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Already she has had confirmation that those jars she waterlogged might meet their doom within the next few days.




Why do you say that? A little extra spore solution isn't going to alter the water content that much. How long have they been incubating for? What temps is she keeping them at.?


Patience  :wink: 


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: motaman]
    #1662742 - 06/25/03 10:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah just because she put a lil x-tra spore solution in them does not mean they are doomed.


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662784 - 06/26/03 03:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Heres a few things i can share with you.....

1st off.. dont worry :smile:
if u mess up, no big deal, just learn where and why things went wrong....
when u start its best to follow things to the "T" but eventually u realise that these musrooms are VERY VERY resiliant.
ive done everything short of taking a poop in my jars and havnt had a problem....
certain corners can be cut... others cannot...
after your 1st or 2nd grow u will find out which ones are really vital, and which ones are just a good suggestion...

oh, and heres and answer to a question you havent even asked yet... BUT would have in the next few days had i not answered it here first  :oogle:
no, the condensation inside your jars WONT harm the mycellum, even if there is ALOT of condensation... im talking pools of standing water touching the cake.... your mycellum will be FINE... they will contine to grow and fruit into happy little mushrooms.....

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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662815 - 06/26/03 03:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

And everything you screw up the first time around, will never happen the second time around. Everyone learns from mistakes.


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: straberyShRoOMCaKe]
    #1662884 - 06/26/03 03:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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straberyShRoOMCaKe said:
  I remember my bunni's first grow , it was'nt all that long ago. Every jar that was innoculated died except for one. Every shroom that flushed was like perfect, even the mutant. Anyways...
  Just remember to be patient and that you will loose some but the one's that do make it you can kick back and really apprieciate and enjoy them more than ever before. 




Yeah, I won't be surprised if my kittens jars had a wipe-out and she lost several.  But it is indeed a learning experience!  :smile:  She's been waiting for months to get to try this, so naturally she thinks that she is doing every little thing wrong, even though she goes by the tek!  :tongue:  The extra spores in the jar probably won't harm them too bad, but naturally my kitten has to freak out about it, lol.  She can't wait for that moment to come when she can finally try shrooms of her own! 

-Shade
 


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1662898 - 06/26/03 03:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you order from hawks and you mess up, they'll replace your syringes for free. Its a good deal just dont take advantage of it, and ive found that they are very quick and give pretty good deals.


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #1663378 - 06/26/03 03:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Patience grasshopper :smile: My faery godmother just cased her cakes.  She is tingling with anticipation :smile:  Only one of her jars got contaminated - however she has set it aside and is keeping an eye on it.  The mycelium is continuing to grow, even into the contaminated area.  It looks like healthly mycelium! :smile:

When she cased, she examined the cakes before she crumbled them.  Two of them had a tiny tiny bit of green gunk on top, she scraped it off with a knife and that was that.  However, after she broke up a cake she thought was contam-free, she noticed that there was a tiny amount of the same kind of grayish mould on as is on the contaminated jar.  She immediately removed what she could, hopefully everything will turn out alright.

Anyway, she is a newbie grower too and is hoping that she'll have pieces of faery goodness for July 4 :smile:  She says to tell you to just be patient and think positive, they will probably turn out just fine :smile:

*note:  I know of these events only because she whispers these things into my left ear while I am asleep during class*


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: neutralizer]
    #1663857 - 06/26/03 08:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

my friend axl rose did the same thing. more solution = faster colonization for him. if you got the spores from a sponsor no worries i think.

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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: guitarnut]
    #1663892 - 06/26/03 09:11 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You want to talk about stress grow some MJ wait 2 months flip to 12/12 and see nothing but males.. I'll bet that would be stressful.


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: Raedon]
    #1663968 - 06/26/03 09:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

raedon... its happened to dr. guy. 9 plants, lots of time and money, lots of males.

also, dr. guy just started w/ shrooms a little while ago. his first attempt he lost ALL his jars but two. cased them, the casing got comtaminated and all he got was 2.5 grams dry total... bummer. hes on the second time now and feels he knows more than before. innoculated 14 jars, one stopped growing because i wanted to test something out... another COBWEB MOLD!! all the others no contams, growing great. 4 are in the fruiting chamber now. takeing FOREVER to fruit!!

moral of the story... the second time around is always more successful, dont give up on it because your first attempt sucks ass. oh, and if you screw up, use that hawkseye offer, i did and i definately dont regret it. 3 brand new syringes for 12 bucks (including shipping...)


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: Edge]
    #1666825 - 06/27/03 10:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The first grow is always stressfull.
When you already have cakes /casings /jars on the way your attention is spread out a little ...most of my first fuck ups came from not leaving things alone for long enuff..
Innoculate then forget about them...
Any tampering will only mess everything up...
Oh yeah dont forget to case ....even my straight verm casings beat the shit outta cakes..


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: chaosgenerator]
    #1667134 - 06/27/03 01:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My puppy's first grow was using the honey tek. Not a good idea for a first grow, lol. They all got contams and he was really discouraged. He learned from his mistakes and tried the popcorn tek. My god was he surprised when he saw mycelium instead of contams! It was a nice feeling. His Golden Teachers are just about ready to be crumbled into an outdoor patch in a few days. The Pink Buffalos arent too far behind, followed by a close third, Treasure Coast. My puppy tried the honey tek one more time, just for shits. He used what was left of his B+ syringe (less than 1 cc). He was taken aback when he saw good healthy growth.

Morale of the story. Stick with it, you'll fuck up, and then it'll all turn out alright. My puppy is gettin' pretty good at this now!


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: jonas]
    #1667437 - 06/27/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I was planning on lurking awhile before posting but this is just too great a thread to pass up.
My 3 toed sloth Pat is a newbie without a clue. She thought that the "book learnin'" she had done would give her an edge. In the end the months of reading and research equals jack in the real world, especially without opposable thumbs.
Her first attempt was based on the rye grain tek in "The Mushroom Cultivator" the sterilization was done in a PC at 15psi 1 hour. But the holes in the top of the jars were not covered by tape or foil, drying everything out. She has some very slow growth on some very dry grain, it may not be a total lose there may end up being enough mycelium for further inocs. But it definitely was a failure on her part. But hey, sounds like problems on your first shot is pretty common so she don?t feel so bad after all.
In the interest of science she has decided to follow the PF tek and has gotten another several small experiments under way spaced a few days apart so it would be easier to try variations. The waiting is a killer but the learning can't be ignored it's just plain fun!!!

Does anyone have an idea how long a Petri dish should take to show signifigant growth? Several strains PF, B+, EQ & Treasure Coast stored in darkness at around 78?


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: dickmcplentie]
    #1667490 - 06/27/03 05:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm...I thought about 3-5 days, don't get too anxious before a week has passed, and don't panic until two weeks have passed and there is no growth.  Or that is what my kitten heard for jars. 

My kitten hasn't peeked at her jars yet today, although she really wants too!  :cool:  Its been three days after innoculation, maybe she'll check tomorrow just to be safe.  Incubator is currently 85.3 degrees, although that varies. 

The wait is killer, lol. 

Good luck for everyone's friends', kittens, sloths, cats, etc.  :smile: 

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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1667491 - 06/27/03 05:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Looking at them is okay, light won't affect them at this stage. Just don't do like my noob faery godmother, she put a desk lamp directly over them as a heat source and I think the massive dose of light, or at least the heat, was too much for them.

One thing she started doing once they started to colonize (hehe...she was really excited!) was to take a marker and outline the border of the mycelium growth...that way she could literally see the progression of growth. She said it was pretty neat!


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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: neutralizer]
    #1668207 - 06/27/03 11:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, when mycelium starts to grow, will my kitten know for *sure* that it is mycelium? Inside her jars there seems to be a bit of fuzzy action, but it is sort of hard to tell. It could just be wishful thinking. Also, the grayish color of the substrate seems to be becoming a more solidified gray...doesn't appear to be any sort of contam. Thanks guys

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Re: Newbies unite! The stress of waiting. [Re: MOTH]
    #1668471 - 06/28/03 02:55 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You will see very little in the beginning (almost white hairs), but then a day later you will have a bright white spot that you will just know is mycelium.

Edit: Even if your a seasoned veteran, waiting for the jars to germinate or contaminate is the worst part.


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