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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: YawnGG]
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YawnGG said:
The Influence said:
I see no proof of your claims. Yes we all know everything the government does is not in the best interest of everyone all the time. But people have been claiming that the government is out to destroy us for as long as there has been a government; it's like people act like there is some climatic attack coming from our government. But yet it never comes. I can link you to hundred of accounts of violence and violations of law by OWS protesters. America is fucking great, it's not perfect and never will be. If you can't come to terms with that move to another country thats better. I hear Syria is nice this time of year :wink:


I think you are very much in denial. See my other post.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15746274


Seriously man that video doesn't prove anything. You can call everyone a troll and put them on ignore but that is  notgoing to make what your claiming true. Why post if your so convinced in your beliefs? Most people here are not going to converse with you especially on topics like this if your going to say all news is government controlled and then post shit like that video as your evidence.

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: The Influence] * 3
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> Why post if your so convinced in your beliefs?

Unfortunately, he will not be able to answer your query for three days.

> You can call everyone a troll and put them on ignore

I've never understood people that use ignore.  How can we learn anything if we ignore everybody that has an opinion that we don't agree with?  I might not agree with you on some topic, but I still want to understand why you hold your opinion.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Seuss]
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Ha! You BAN a guy, and then you say this, "I've never understood people that use ignore." Come on!


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Seuss]
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"I've never understood people that use ignore.  How can we learn anything if we ignore everybody that has an opinion that we don't agree with?  I might not agree with you on some topic, but I still want to understand why you hold your opinion. "

Yeah I don't quite understand it either. I did ignore someone once but it was because they were talking crap and I was about to catch a bannin. But even him I un-ignored. I think people do it because they like to live in their own little world where there is no opposing views, and that way they will never have to face the possiblility that what they think really might be wrong.

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social] * 1
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The Influence said:
Seriously man that video doesn't prove anything. You can call everyone a troll and put them on ignore but that is  notgoing to make what your claiming true. Why post if your so convinced in your beliefs? Most people here are not going to converse with you especially on topics like this if your going to say all news is government controlled and then post shit like that video as your evidence.



The argument-by-youtube crowd seems to stand for the proposition that I should believe their conclusions despite the fact that often they can't clearly say what they are, and can never provide an argument for them.  If the video is so clear on the matter, then why can't the person advocating such simply restate the argument for the proposition?

I don't have much faith that someone who can't even identify what is persuasive in some video is to be trusted when he claims, conclusively, that something is.  Another point you'll note is that they hardly ever cite a portion of the video which contains the argument which is convincing- even when the videos are hours long, as they often are.  To me this suggests that the advocate's satisfaction with the video is less than the logical analysis one might hope.

This is no more a valid argument than a simple denial followed by a citation to the corpus of English literature as proof.  There's a reason no academic or professional society, journal, allows such bullshit into its publications, and requires citations to be specific- apparently that reason escapes the argument-by-youtube crowd.


Not Quite Social said:
Ha! You BAN a guy, and then you say this, "I've never understood people that use ignore." Come on!



Well, you sure convinced me.  I'm not sure which of your arguments it was that did it, though.  Maybe it was "Ha!".  Or perhaps it was "Come on!". 

I don't know which did it, but I now realize you're correct and that Seuss's is certainly wrong :thumbup:


:confused:

This is the kind of nonsense that seems to be offered in exchange for rational argument all too often in this forum.  See the Israeli thread for an example: all sorts of nonsense, but no clear argument for how Israel or Zionism is wrong or harmful to anyone's rights.

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: johnm214]
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George Carlin the illusion of freedom


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
This is the kind of nonsense that seems to be offered in exchange for rational argument all too often in this forum.  See the Israeli thread for an example: all sorts of nonsense, but no clear argument for how Israel or Zionism is wrong or harmful to anyone's rights.


What thread is that. Link me please?

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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> Ha! You BAN a guy, and then you say this, "I've never understood people that use ignore." Come on!

I banned him for flaming, not for his opinions.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> Ha! You BAN a guy, and then you say this, "I've never understood people that use ignore." Come on!

I banned him for flaming, not for his opinions.


It was only a matter of time.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
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I've never understood people that use ignore.

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I banned him for flaming


I guess I have to spell it out.  You do use the ignore function.  When you moderators ignore people who denigrate & insult lefties, we put those people on ignore because we don't have the awesome authority to ban them.  If moderators actually moderated discussion here then I'd agree with you, an ignore function would be unnecessary.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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> When you moderators ignore people who denigrate & insult lefties, we put those people on ignore because we don't have the awesome authority to ban them.

The lefties have gotten by with a lot more denigrating and insulting than the non-lefties.  This becomes painfully obvious when looking at the ban log and comparing it to posts that contain flames.  The lefties seem to enjoy dishing out the hate, but when it gets returned, they scream foul.  For a perfect case study, look at the eight years of Bush bashing by the lefties followed by their screams of agony when Obama started to get trashed by the non-lefties.

This is a very hard forum to moderator.  It is nearly impossible to find moderators that can separate their personal beliefs from the forum rules they enforce.  The current moderators do an excellent job.  None of us have the time to read every post in every thread.  If something gets posted that violates a forum rule, then please use the notify moderator button.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Seuss]
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LOL :lolsy: they must be limited hangouts if the only bash evil war criminal W Bush and not Obama. I bash both those fiends!

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zzripz]
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wake up america

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Not Quite Social said:
Ha! You BAN a guy, and then you say this, "I've never understood people that use ignore." Come on!



hy·poc·ri·sy
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noun, plural -sies.
1.
a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.

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