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Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up.
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I was watching occupy oakland on 4 ustreams as 300 people(estimated) were arrested. The AP put out an article that I saw atleast two lies in, The article was titled "300 arrested in daylong Occupy Oakland protests", I googled it up about an hour or two after the protest was over and the article was already re-posted 131,000 times.. an exact number some how. I still find this strange, but I digress here are the lies that the government controlled media puts out.

1: Occupiers destroyed a fence. Ok it it did happend. But the media forgets to mention that the people were surrounded by two barricades then tear gassed. They had to destroy the fence to escape.

2: People were trying to occupy the ymca. COMPLETELY FALSE. occupy was surrounded by the police then told if they did not disperse they would be arrested. The police then refused to let people leave, fearing imprisonment an occupier used her membership card to try and escape and people of course followed her through the building.

The mainstream media just got up and left, but the event was covered faithfully by ustreamers.

The occupy movement was started by very bad people behind the scenes(see links to lucistrust as well as the UN), perhaps because they knew there media wizards could spin it and they could spread there police state further upon us. That being said, I think we have been underestimated.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that cops were braught in from many other areas for tonight, it was all planned.

Edited by YawnGG (01/29/12 06:19 AM)

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: YawnGG]
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Please don't trust me, watch ustream and see for yourself how the mainstream media is programming the masses.. there lies reveal there intentions.

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: YawnGG]
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Is this a lie?
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/29/pic-of-the-day-73/


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Is this a lie?
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/29/pic-of-the-day-73/


And that is damning, how?

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Byrain]
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That doesn't look like his backyard, does it?  You can't go setting fires anywhere you like.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ha! Ordinance violator!  That man deserves a citation.  By the way, the Tea Party likes to trumpet the Constitution.  Did you know the Constitution singles out political speech as a specifically important right, and the Supreme Court has upheld core political speech, which includes conduct for the purpose of political expression, as the most protected form of speech from impinging laws?  I guess Oakland operates under some other document.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Not Quite Social said:
Ha! Ordinance violator!  That man deserves a citation.  By the way, the Tea Party likes to trumpet the Constitution.  Did you know the Constitution singles out political speech as a specifically important right, and the Supreme Court has upheld core political speech, which includes conduct for the purpose of political expression, as the most protected form of speech from impinging laws?  I guess Oakland operates under some other document.




does the constitution state the trespassing, criminal mischief, arson and
destruction of public property are important rights. I wonder where the
supreme court stands on that


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California Has Legalized Child Prostitution

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Trespass at least can sometimes be overcome on First Amendment grounds. A lot of caselaw on that front

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
That doesn't look like his backyard, does it?  You can't go setting fires anywhere you like.


Nice twist, didn't see that coming. :lol:

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Byrain]
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:lol:


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Shill]
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Prisoner#1 said,

Quote:
does the constitution state the trespassing, criminal mischief, arson and destruction of public property are important rights. I wonder where the
supreme court stands on that


I take your point: an ideal right is nearly impossible to defend against the persistent and concerted efforts of authoritarians to rain minor laws and ordinances on "criminal offenders".  I bet he failed to properly signal a right turn, too.  Maybe his blinker was broken.  Maybe he parked more than 16 inches from the curb.  You know what I think--I won't tell anyone, Okay--I think it's really his political speech you find offensive, but bluster on about criminal mischief and arson all you like--whatever it takes to shut him up. --Did I mention I was best phriends with Phred?  Doesn't that qualify my posts for some sort of exemption from criticism?  Where's my due respect?


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Edited by Not Quite Social (01/30/12 11:05 AM)

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Is this a lie?
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/29/pic-of-the-day-73/



Could be. Agent provocateur?


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Not Quite Social said:
Prisoner#1 said,

Quote:
does the constitution state the trespassing, criminal mischief, arson and destruction of public property are important rights. I wonder where the
supreme court stands on that


I take your point: an ideal right is nearly impossible to defend against the persistent and concerted efforts of authoritarians to rain minor laws and ordinances on "criminal offenders".  I bet he failed to properly signal a right turn, too.  Maybe his blinker was broken.  Maybe he parked more than 16 inches from the curb.  You know what I think--I won't tell anyone, Okay--I think it's really his political speech you find offensive, but bluster on about criminal mischief and arson all you like--whatever it takes to shut him up. --Did I mention I was best phriends with Phred?  Doesn't that qualify my posts for some sort of exemption from criticism?  Where's my due respect?



Are you really comparing criminal mischief, arson and destruction of property to moving and parking violations? 

What do you think, that if somebody is exercising free speech they should be exempt from arson and destruction laws?  (as well as moving violation?)

I dont think you believe that at all.  You poor attempt at sarcasm here falls flat.

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: yeah]
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Doub
yeah said:
zappaisgod said:
Is this a lie?
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/29/pic-of-the-day-73/



Could be. Agent provocateur?



I really doubt it


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Shill]
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All I know is that these idiots are reallllly gonna regret all this


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Shill]
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Shill said:
All I know is that these idiots are reallllly gonna regret all this


Most of the Occutards aren't smart enough to see the stupidity of their actions.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Shill]
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Maybe you're assuming it is not his flag.  Maybe it is.  If so, you'd have arrested Jimi Hendrix for arson, property destruction, and criminal mischief?  Burning a flag is Constitutionally protected political speech--get over it.  Anyway, there are young US government employees in dark offices in Nevada guiding drones and shooting missiles at houses and people on the other side of the planet, murdering people, and these guys get to drive home at the end of their workday without any charges of arson, property destruction and criminal mischief.  See the thing itself for what it is.  Don't let the legal and political authorities confuse you.  Who is this guy really hurting?  Nobody.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Setting fires in public spaces is not.  You can burn all the flags you want on your own property.


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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: zappaisgod]
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So one guy sets a small fire that is obviously not going to spread anywhere, so now you can pepper sprey, shoot, beat, and lock hundreds of people in cages?

If you answered yes to the above, please do the world a favor and...

If this is allowed to continue the gov can plant one guy that sets a fire, or throws a rock/bottle/whatever and then destroy any political protest it desires. It is clear some of you are very happy with giving up your rights to big brother, you send your kids to government ran social engineering programs, you watch government controlled "news" , you believe there is a difference between republican and democrat, you have no idea about the corruption in government, you believe the WTC buildings fell because a plane hit them.. you live in this little dream where you think government is your friend, well your friend is fucking you over ever chance it can in more ways then you could ever imagine...

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Re: Occupy oakland - 300 arrested.. press cover up. [Re: YawnGG]
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I was having a debate about this on foxnews.coms reprint of AP article, and they closed the comments,  u cant even read the old ones now.

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