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Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources
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I plan on doing a better grow at some point in the future, but for now I decided to go the lazy route and just improvise my way through it.

I'm using 3 madbags injected with B+ spores.

10/27/11: two 20cc Spore syringes arrive from Earth's Tongue. B+ on top and Ecuador on bottom.


10/27/11: trio of madbags injected. I probably went overboard as I used up half of the B+ syringe (about 10 or 11cc)


11/5/11: 9 days later (today) I finally see some signs of mycellium growth. Yes, they're sitting on the edge of my audio receiver for warmth. I don't have any way to check temperature but I estimate that they're sitting at a warm 85 degrees (the side sticking out being a bit cooler of course). It's probably too warm but the alternative is closer to 70 degrees, so I think I'll take my chances. I also cover them with a sweater to block sunlight during the day.


11/5/11: Closeup of one of the madbags. I noticed one or two white spots on this bag, but I'm not sure if you can see it from this pic. I'm not really sure if i'm seeing mycellium, glare from the flash, or condensation in the bag from this pic.


I plan to update this any time I see some visible progress :thumbup:

Edited by icecap (11/05/11 06:36 PM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Your photos are messed up, I recommend using a better host.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: XFINITY]
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fixing now

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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You're too popular it says. :vaped:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: LoganDavidBaker]
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the pics should be showing up

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Hey you got that new moon syringe like I did. :thumbup:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: LoganDavidBaker]
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Sure did :thumbup:

I'm planning on using those Ecuador spores in another 2 mad bags I have. I'm just waiting a bit so I can use anything I learned from this first grow to make the second one go better.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Those syringes look unnaturally dark. Like it was made with a dye or something.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
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SKrink said:
Those syringes look unnaturally dark. Like it was made with a dye or something.


this :thumbdown:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: thissongis]
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:confused: 
:thumbdown: at what I said, or :thumbdown: at the syringes?


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
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I was agreeing with you

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: thissongis]
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Here's a link explaining the "New Moon" spore syringes

http://www.earthstongue.com/site/388422/page/1875237

Whether it's unnaturally dark or not is irrelevant. If it works (which it does) then that's all that matters.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
Here's a link explaining the "New Moon" spore syringes

http://www.earthstongue.com/site/388422/page/1875237

Whether it's unnaturally dark or not is irrelevant. If it works (which it does) then that's all that matters.



So it says that you can dump it in a bowl open air, and pour back into syringe with....No contams on the sub....then it says...do not attempt.   


Idk seems fishy, there are sponsors for a reason. But goodluck dude! Im takin a seat to watch the mad bags.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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There's two criteria I would use to judge the effectiveness of a spore syringe.

1) Will it grow mushrooms?

2) Is it cost effective?

Price is competitive with other vendors so 2 is satisfied. We will see in a month or so if I get mushrooms, but I don't see why not.

I'm surprised people are focusing on the syringe rather than the receiver which is probably keeping the bags too hot :mushroom2:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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i would rather have it closer to 70F rather than "might be too hot".  70F is just fine.  yeah, i would rather have them a little warmer myself too but if your not too sure how hot its getting its better just to leave it at room temp.  just my 2 cents tho, good luck!

"New Moon" syringe = marketing gimmick imho who knows tho

oh yeah, what the hell is a madbag?  just a filter patch bag with sub in it?  sorry just never heard the term before...


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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85 degrees is way too hot, 70 degrees is very close to optimal. If it drops below that in the night, that's also perfectly okay. Don't use any kind of heat source unless your place is below 50 degrees.

You shouldn't have used so much spore solution in those bags. The more solution you use the longer it will take to colonize, and you run the risk of introducing too much water.

Still, your bags could be fine, but remove them to a place that's cooler. Optimal temp is 70-75.

Edited by nooneman (11/06/11 02:56 AM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: nooneman]
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optimal temp is 86F per P. Staments

but then again its better to be low than too high

RR colonized a jar at 40F just to show that it can be done


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: IamYou]
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IamYou said:
optimal temp is 86F per P. Staments



That's outdated and incorrect information. We now know that optimal temp is 70-75.

For example, according to RR:
Quote:
At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12541940#12541940
Also from RR:
Quote:
By the way, Stamets never said to use 86F as an ambient air temp for colonizing P cubensis.

75F is probably about perfect for fruiting, but don't sweat it.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10793395#10793395
And one last one from RR:
Quote:
My experience has been the lower temps give meatier fruits and better potency.  Shoot for normal room temp fruiting, because that's just about ideal.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10479204#10479204

Edited by nooneman (11/06/11 03:09 AM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: nooneman]
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Sorry to tell you brother, but your "new moon" syringes will blow donkey balls! I started with their syringes and waited 3 of them. They grew myc, but the mycelium wouldn't fruit. I also waisted about 80 1/2 pint and pint brf jars along with 5 105QT mono's of coir/verm, also waisted time on 7 liquid cultures.

All together that BS site cost me around $150 and 5 months worth of myco work.

Order from a sponsor and you'll get the results you're looking for


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
IamYou said:
optimal temp is 86F per P. Staments



That's outdated and incorrect information. We now know that optimal temp is 70-75.

For example, according to RR:
Quote:
At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated.


hmm, good to know

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12541940#12541940
Also from RR:
Quote:
By the way, Stamets never said to use 86F as an ambient air temp for colonizing P cubensis.

75F is probably about perfect for fruiting, but don't sweat it.



nor did i, although i guess i wasnt to clear on that point

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10793395#10793395
And one last one from RR:
Quote:
My experience has been the lower temps give meatier fruits and better potency.  Shoot for normal room temp fruiting, because that's just about ideal.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10479204#10479204


good lookin out...


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: IamYou]
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thanks for the info on temps gentlemen

for experimentation purposes i will leave my current 3 madbags in their overly hot environment just to see how they do. This IS the laziest and potentially worst first grow after all.

What i WILL do however is inoculate my last two madbags with ecuador spores and let them sit at room temperature just to see the difference in growth times between the two. For experimentation purposes i will also add too much spore solution to one bag and a normal amount to the other.

maybe the ecuador spores wouldve been better off in the overly hot environment... but its too late now

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
Here's a link explaining the "New Moon" spore syringes

http://www.earthstongue.com/site/388422/page/1875237

Whether it's unnaturally dark or not is irrelevant. If it works (which it does) then that's all that matters.


These guys are fucking crazy. Just read the testimonial section:

Quote:
Inoculation was completed on 03/05/2011 at 6:00AM in the morning using “New Moon “ Spce Cst”. I believe a picture is worth a thousand words. See attached photo. [followed by a picture of plates growing green shit]

"Very impressed at this point. Received product in 5 days , saw results in 5 days. This applies to Cambodian, results on azurescens still questionable but I expected slower results on that species.

Hi,I'm tricia.I recently ordered some "creepers".And I've got to say that you guys are the best!!!Awesome spores!!!definitely the fastest colonizers I've ever seen.



I can't believe someone selling spores for microscopy use only would also sell growing supplies... :picard: Stick with sponsors, whatever they're putting in their spore syringes makes them useless for microscopy anyway.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Saxifrage]
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I actually had a pretty big problem with the second syringe that I just tried to use for the first time today.

It turns out that the needle was jammed somehow so I had to remove the needle part from the syringe and I then used another syringe to pull out the required liquid. Probably upped the risk of contamination a decent amount.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
There's two criteria I would use to judge the effectiveness of a spore syringe.

1) Will it grow mushrooms?

2) Is it cost effective?

Price is competitive with other vendors so 2 is satisfied. We will see in a month or so if I get mushrooms, but I don't see why not.

I'm surprised people are focusing on the syringe rather than the receiver which is probably keeping the bags too hot :mushroom2:




People are focusing on the syringe for one reason.......

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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im guessing everyone complaining about the syringes have never actually used them before?  if thats the case then your input is about as reliable as a magic 8 ball's.

If the spores are impotent or contaminated ill be the first to let you guys know. Either it works or it doesn't, and since i dont have a time machine, i have no choice to work with what i already have dont you think?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
im guessing everyone complaining about the syringes have never actually used them before?  if thats the case then your input is about as reliable as a magic 8 ball's.

If the spores are impotent or contaminated ill be the first to let you guys know. Either it works or it doesn't, and since i dont have a time machine, i have no choice to work with what i already have dont you think?



I've wasted money on them, I've spoken to 5-6 people who also have, earth tongue is a rip off plain and simple. I've spawned to warmer bags and unless they are still over 100 f I temp, they should still be fine as the spores should still be alive.

There is a good chance the op will get mycelium to grow, but I'm certain there will be no fruiting..


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: slapphappypill]
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11/7/2011

starting to grow some whiteness :smile:



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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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With the next few pics, turn of your flash and turn on a light in your room for a minute. Easier to see the pics

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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I'll be sure to do that tonight :thumbup:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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11/9 shots taken from the top of the bag. It's really hard to find a good spot to take pics from thanks to the glare, condensation, and vermiculite dirtying the bag.




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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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can anyone tell if it's healthy or not?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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11/11/11 fifteen days since inoculation

I decided to stop putting the bags on top of my audio receiver. It seems to be moving along faster at this colder temperature.





Anyone think I should break it up for it to colonize faster? Maybe I should do that to 1 or 2 of the bags just for curiosity's sake.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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If you've not done that yet, definitely do it at about 20% colonization. But dont do it again after.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
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I have no idea what % colonization it currently is. Any Ideas?

It actually seems like it's more than 20% already. Maybe I'll do it to the bag that's the least colonized of the three.

Also, I've been worried about contams since I had them at a high temperature for a long time. I smell the bag every once in a while, and they've recently gained a slight mushroomy smell. Nothing offensive, though.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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I may have spotted contamination while i was breaking and mixing one of them. I'll update this post with the pic in a min.



If memory serves correct those seeds were never that green :frown:

Edited by icecap (11/11/11 05:45 PM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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The pic is pretty fuzzy man but I'd say its contam, just isolate it from everything else and wait it out a bit, see what happens, it will be pretty apparent in a few days.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: MushroomHaven]
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i isolateded the bag and im gonna watch it to see if it gets worse

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
i isolateded the bag and im gonna watch it to see if it gets worse



Green genrally mans contam if I'm not mistaken. If I were you I would break up all your bags just to be sure, plu if its not contamed by then, the breaking up of the grains will let you know if it will

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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Some bad news for the laziest and potentially worst first grow ever. More evidence of green contams in all 3 bags. Not gonna bother to take a pic at this point, but I will if it gets worse.

What are my chances at this point? Could my mycelium kick it's green ass?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
IamYou said:
optimal temp is 86F per P. Staments



That's outdated and incorrect information. We now know that optimal temp is 70-75.

For example, according to RR:
Quote:
At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12541940#12541940
Also from RR:
Quote:
By the way, Stamets never said to use 86F as an ambient air temp for colonizing P cubensis.

75F is probably about perfect for fruiting, but don't sweat it.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10793395#10793395
And one last one from RR:
Quote:
My experience has been the lower temps give meatier fruits and better potency.  Shoot for normal room temp fruiting, because that's just about ideal.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10479204#10479204


I think that perhaps there is a little bit of confusion here. When you quote "At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated" - that probably refers to the outside temperature, not temperature within the jars.

For mycelium growth of cubensis, the ideal temperature for optimal growth is 86. Please see image below.

http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/TMC/tmc_cubensis_temperature.gif

When you think about the native environments of cubensis (tropics and sub-tropics) this makes a lot of sense! Although of course you want to reduce the outside temp to lower than 86, as heat is generated within the jars. But not much, only a few degrees.

So 78f(26c)-82f(28c) would be perfect as an outside temp.

Edited by butter_dog (11/14/11 04:23 AM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
Some bad news for the laziest and potentially worst first grow ever. More evidence of green contams in all 3 bags. Not gonna bother to take a pic at this point, but I will if it gets worse.

What are my chances at this point? Could my mycelium kick it's green ass?





Naw, toss em and start over.      I guesss anythings possible...but if all 3 contamd best bet is to start over.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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I dont like those madbag..


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: orison]
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I'll perform CPR on these bags if I have to. I promise you gentlemen, I won't let these bags get taken over without a fight!  :kong:

Who's with me?!?!  :seriousamanita:

incoming large number of pics!

11/14 early morning














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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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What are you planning on doing exactly.....




Ps, opening a contaminated sub in your grow area will contaminate your grow area. Dont open those inside. You might be ale to do something with it outside but not in

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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I just plan on not tossing them unless I'm 100% sure there's contams.

What is your analysis of my recent pics?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Contam, anything cept white is usually bad. Toss them and start over. Im surprised more people havent said anything.  If u live in a decent temp area, bury them outside

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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Btw, this is why people told you that earths tongue is crap. You had pre sterilized bags, they shouldnt have contamed if u were sterile with ur needle. Next time go with a sponsor from this site.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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I think I'll hold on to them for a couple more days to see if things get worse. If they do I'll just bury them in the back yard. Temps in the northeast are low 50s-60s, so that might dash my hopes of these guys growing anything :frown:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Things will get worse. Not better.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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what kind of contam do you see in the pics?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Trich, the mean green.

And looks like bacterial infection, too.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
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I will bury 2 of my 3 madbags tomorrow.

It will be a sad day indeed :tmckenna:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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idk.. That might be some VERM reflection. I just cant see it clear myself, I dont see green at all.  I would just take them away from your clean area, but dont open them to bury them. just set them somewhere else like the garage.. That is why I dont like those madbags. I always feel like something going wrong cause i cant see clearly.
I prefer just grain bag..


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: orison]
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11/15

This is the best shot I could get of the greenness on a seed.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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^^^^ Definately a contam, its done 4 that bag bro, get rid of it!!!!


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: MushroomHaven]
    #15377889 -

butter_dog said:
nooneman said:
IamYou said:
optimal temp is 86F per P. Staments



That's outdated and incorrect information. We now know that optimal temp is 70-75.

For example, according to RR:
Quote:
At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated.


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12541940#12541940
Also from RR:
Quote:
By the way, Stamets never said to use 86F as an ambient air temp for colonizing P cubensis.

75F is probably about perfect for fruiting, but don't sweat it.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10793395#10793395
And one last one from RR:
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My experience has been the lower temps give meatier fruits and better potency.  Shoot for normal room temp fruiting, because that's just about ideal.



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10479204#10479204


I think that perhaps there is a little bit of confusion here. When you quote "At 86F, growth is already slowed to a crawl, and molds are being stimulated" - that probably refers to the outside temperature, not temperature within the jars.

For mycelium growth of cubensis, the ideal temperature for optimal growth is 86. Please see image below.

http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/TMC/tmc_cubensis_temperature.gif

When you think about the native environments of cubensis (tropics and sub-tropics) this makes a lot of sense! Although of course you want to reduce the outside temp to lower than 86, as heat is generated within the jars. But not much, only a few degrees.

So 78f(26c)-82f(28c) would be perfect as an outside temp.


First off, who the fuck are you? check your own .gif link and you'll see your chart that you're looking at is from the 1950's.... I'll take my room temp anyday... clearly you have never grown anything...


As far as OP goes, there is absolutely NO reason you can't keep your bags to watch. Just dont open them! I keep contamed bags around for shits and giggles to watch all the time. I do all my g2g transfers in open air with oust, and the last time i did 4 g2g transfers (qt jar to 4lb wbs bag) 2 of my 4 tranfers contamed due to not using oust (i was out but oh well :shrug:)

Anyway, long story short, 1 of the bags had the myc recover from a real bad black mold problem, and 100% colonize the wbs. My point is, if you have bags or jars that start to contam, there is no reason you need to toss out right away unless you are pressed for resources and need your jar/bag for another project. Let the myc try to fight and see what happens.

In the meantime, start over and try again


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: slapphappypill]
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Thanks for the info, slapphappy. I had already decided to hold onto them until they got much worse, but you made me feel better about that decision.

It's not like they smell either. They still have the same slight mushroomy smell that they had for a couple of weeks now. Maybe it's a bit stronger now, but nothing bad smelling.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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11/20







There was a very visible green spot here a day or two ago. You can still see it, but the mycelium seems to be outgrowing it.


some visible green here that hasn't gotten any bigger or smaller



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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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well i decided to prematurely birth them because the contams were spreading more

i made a sgfc from a plastic cat food container and im using wet paper towels as a perlite substitute. to make matters worse the sgfc is way too small and the "cakes" (if you can call them that) barely fit. theres so little room that theyre actually touching. i think im gonna just bury the most contammed one.

im seeing some mushrooms start to sprout out, but i unfortunately crushed the biggest one when putting it into the cramped sgfc

i would post pics but its too embarrassing at this point

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15418372 -

Dude u are going to ruin the rest of your grows in that house by letting that mold spread out like that, bury both of them, accept your losses and restart...


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: MushroomHaven]
    #15418389 -

I agree with everyone who's saying to ditch those bags ASAP. You seem pretty stubborn, happens a lot with new growers on here (myself included at one point). Just cut your loses, count it as a lesson, and don't ruin your home for any future grows.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: rerat]
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I won't be using this room (or this house) for growing anymore, so I'm not really worried about ruining future grows.

I think I can manage keeping them around for a while longer. I can probably get a few shrooms to mature before I toss it.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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11/24

birthing the first bag


this guy was apparently growing in the bag


hastily made sgfc


view inside

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Did you consider maybe fruiting in the bag? Since one pin already formed in vitro, you could encourage more pinning by simply introducing FAE in-bag.

In the hastily-constructed SGFC, without perlite, they run a higher risk of drying out.

Then again, if you put this whole contraption outdoors, (on a windowsill or something) and mist religiously, the fresh outdoor air and sunshine might actually boost the mycelium against the contams.

Just spitting out ideas here since it seems you're pretty much fruiting these just to see.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: rerat]
    #15418797 -

MushroomHaven said:
Dude u are going to ruin the rest of your grows in that house by letting that mold spread out like that, bury both of them, accept your losses and restart...



:whathesaid:


rerat said:
I agree with everyone who's saying to ditch those bags ASAP. You seem pretty stubborn, happens a lot with new growers on here (myself included at one point). Just cut your loses, count it as a lesson, and don't ruin your home for any future grows.


:whathesaid:



dunno if id suggest eating those....

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
    #15418886 -

SKrink said:
Did you consider maybe fruiting in the bag? Since one pin already formed in vitro, you could encourage more pinning by simply introducing FAE in-bag.

In the hastily-constructed SGFC, without perlite, they run a higher risk of drying out.

Then again, if you put this whole contraption outdoors, (on a windowsill or something) and mist religiously, the fresh outdoor air and sunshine might actually boost the mycelium against the contams.

Just spitting out ideas here since it seems you're pretty much fruiting these just to see.


good idea! I think I'll try putting it on the window sill for part of the day.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Crazy. I'd have thrown it out when I saw the green. But Kudos to you, curiousity wins out sometimes. Either way, hope they don't make ya sick :goodluck:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Sparkx]
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well if you insist on keeping them which let cut the bs and just say you are not going to throw them out till they are dry as a cracker and as green as your lawn. you might as well get some perlite and do it right if you want to get anything at all out of them. iv had contam cakes before that were pinning like crazy so i got a 2 or 3 ltr bottle i use 3 ltr ones cut off the lid just past where it goes to the widest part of the bottle goto the very bottom poke some holes with a knife or heat up a nail (drainage ) and fill with about 3 inches of perlite and poke or cut 6-8 1/4" holes just above the level of the perlite mist place cake inside and put a gal bag over the whole thing leave it loose and let it go outside in a kinda shadey spot, works great for me. just get the first flush and throw it out (or dont idc)




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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: HaywoodJablomi] * 1
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11/25 So Far So Good... So What




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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15423771 -

:greenshroom:   


Mmmmm well im curious to find out ur trip eport

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
    #15423812 -

are you trying to say theyre poison :eek:

Edited by icecap (11/25/11 08:55 PM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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I admire your tenacity, icecap. I have a personal interest in seeing how this experiment turns out. I have 2 earth's moon B+ syringes on standby for my 1st venture into this amazing hobby. I would like to see some more pictures of your sgfc, if you would be so kind. Also, Take some photos from a bit further back, I would like to get like to get a better look at things from a distance. Keep up the fight, I am rooting for ya.

Never mind about backing up. I see you have some huge pics that I have to use the scroller to get the full view of. I think I can safely say I won't be attempting my first grow this way. Good luck though.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15423873 -

"well i decided to prematurely birth them because the contams were spreading more"

Your reach exceeds your grasp.  I salute you!

...but I would never "birth" a mold anywhere near I hope to work
in the future.

I am crossing my fingers for you.

JD


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Javadog]
    #15423906 -

thanks for the feedback

Edited by icecap (11/25/11 09:11 PM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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In one of your first pictures, it looks like your photo was taken looking down into the spawn bag, was it? Was the bag open for that shot? I cant tell from the pic or your post. Does "from the top of the bag" mean looking inside it?

icecap said:
11/9 shots taken from the top of the bag. It's really hard to find a good spot to take pics from thanks to the glare, condensation, and vermiculite dirtying the bag.





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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: shroomerite]
    #15424337 -

yes the pic was taken looking through the top the the bag

i opened them for the first time 2 days ago

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15426905 -

11-26







look at those lil cuties

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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upload your photos here on the shroomery so that the pictures are smaller.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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I post high resolution pictures intentionally.

Too many people post low quality pics and I can't stand them, but if enough of you feel the same way i'll start posting smaller images.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Loving the high quality pics.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: iron]
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I'm a bit worried about the short and fat nature of my pins.

Are they not receiving enough fresh air?

Now for some new pics for the next page. I reduced the horizontal resolution from 1000 to 800. Better than the 3264 it comes in from the camera.

11/27 late night early morning







back cake seems to be pinning like crazy but they're all short and fatties








Edited by icecap (11/27/11 12:33 AM)

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15430357 -

the cakes look super wet r u misting directly on the cakes? may be causing ur problem


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
    #15430446 -

Well I have been misting very frequently. I guess I'll cut back.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15430639 -

I've never had a problem with misting directly.

Oh and about the pictures, reason we upload them on shroomery is because they appear as a thumbnail, and you can choose to click on it to make it bigger. Some people (such as RR) don't have broadband and can't sit and download the pictures all day. the thumbnails make it easier.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: chrissake]
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11/27 night






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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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well keep posting pics, make sure to fan a lot!


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15434863 -

Is that sarcasm?

Am I posting pics too frequently? :blush:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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It was not sarcasm.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Javadog]
    #15435047 -

I'm gonna drill some bigger holes in my SGFC (which means I have to take out the cakes) so expect some really good pics very soon.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15435070 -

Those are some fatty pins :laugh:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15435308 -

Ya'll ready for this?

11/28 enlarged holes and monstrosities

front cake conservatively chugging along


this little guy split his cap down the center


side of front cake


back cake showing some monstrosities


cliffhanger on the right is too fat but he don't give a damn!


crazy orgy going on back there


what is this I don't even....


I guess they love the increased moisture back there

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15435542 -

:laugh2:
MAn that's crazy looking. Glad you didn't toss them.
Second flush should look better.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: SKrink]
    #15435747 -

On a serious note, your super lucky, and you should clone and search threw isolates, try to find the genetics that over came trich, its nearly un believable .


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Montock]
    #15435779 -

it seems the mycellium covered the trich, thus not allowing it to release spores

That myc really took one for the team. It's the shroom equivalent of jumping on a grenade to save your friends.

what a heroic effort :thumbup:


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15436262 -

icecap said:
it seems the mycellium covered the trich, thus not allowing it to release spores

That myc really took one for the team. It's the shroom equivalent of jumping on a grenade to save your friends.

what a heroic effort :thumbup:




LOLz i just read this whole thread now- some crazy shit!

I'm glad they pulled through  :like:


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: a social revolt]
    #15436695 -

Lookin pretty good considering the hell the cakes have been through


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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Stopped by to check in for an update. :thumbup: It looks great Wowzers! It's a good thing you didn't throw them out huh! :thumbup:


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Sparkx]
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All I can say is what the FUCK is up with those pins o.o

Lol, pretty sweet

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: sympt0m]
    #15438955 -

Nope, I wasn't being sarcastic brotha! I was hoping you'd keep the bags from the beginning! glad you did and glad your getting some great mutantS! those fuckers will be potent as hell!

Yes, keep posting that sexy deformed pinporn!


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We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze....

                   

FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: slapphappypill]
    #15439055 -

That is insane. Looks like some crazy alien world. Love the rescaled pics BTW. Keep us updated this is great. Put me down for a print trade once you get there. If you pull this off I have no doubts that a supernoob like me can make it work with proper attention. I have 2 of the same spore syringes that you used for this. Earth's tongue new moon B+, right? I have read some scathing reviews of it, but if you pull this off you should ask for sponsorship from their site for some kind of crazy success story to dispel the nay-sayers. Peace and liberty.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: mycotowne]
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Great pics!


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: lagartomandril]
    #15440653 -

thanks for all the comments ladies and gents

11/29 back in the cramped SGFC





wtf is up with the weird nipple shroom?






this little guy is wearing something on his head... /facepalm

I wish I could see how the monstrosities in the back are doing but I don't wanna risk taking the cakes out again.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
    #15440681 -

Really didnt expect this to go anywhere, got to commend you on those pins. Looks like you're gonna have a good harvest :thumbup:

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: thissongis]
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Please please please keep us posted with lots of pics lol.

I wanna see the final fruits!

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: sympt0m]
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damn looking good haha im starting my first grow soon so this gives me confidence


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: psyconaught]
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made a new thread for higher quality images

Up close and personal with the Laziest and Potentially Worst Grow Ever

This thread will continue to be updated with slighter smaller shots of the cakes as a whole rather than up close pictures of shrooms like the other thread.

As always your comments and advice for the grow in this thread are encouraged.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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woke up to a green tinge on this cake

The trich must have blown it's load over night, but I have faith in the teenage mutant ninja shroomers to take that out with minimal effort.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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12/1/11

so how much longer do you think these guys will need before harvest?


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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lol anything thats not a fail counts as a win first grow congrats


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: skuzzy1232]
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should I pick that big one that popped it's veil?

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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You inspire me once again, icecap. Great progress so far. Gonna get yourself a print off your new baby, or do you have other plans for her?


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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icecap said:
should I pick that big one that popped it's veil?


Do it! Mad grow brother. I'm glad it all went well in the end.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Tazo]
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ID PICK EM ALL !! GO FOR A SECOND FLUSH! LOL


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: HaywoodJablomi]
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Damn, I have to say Im with a few others in thinking that this was going to be a massive fail but seems you pulled if off despite all the negativity you recieved here.. Great Job man and :whathesaid:... Pick em and try to flush again!!


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: MushroomHaven]
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MushroomHaven said:
Damn, I have to say Im with a few others in thinking that this was going to be a massive fail but seems you pulled if off despite all the negativity you recieved here.. Great Job man and :whathesaid:... Pick em and try to flush again!!




Congrats dude!  Glad to see it worked out!

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: kronikpuff]
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Just want to thank everyone that helped me along the way with advice and words of encouragement.

First flush got me about 15 grams dry. I could have got at least 20 if I let all the shrooms mature, but I don't really mind because they are potent as hell due to their small size.

Here's the second flush. They seem to only be growing on one side, which happens to be the side with the light of course. That didn't seem to stop the first flush from sprouting all over the cake.

I ended up harvesting the back cake and I left the front cake alone so they can mature more.

Here's some pics of the cakes. Notice the green/blue color... very strange. Closeups of the mushrooms will be posted in my other thread that I linked to earlier.

12/10 second flush







The back cake ended up giving me about 178g wet. Will probably harvest the other cake tomorrow or tonight.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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If those syringes were that dark with spores you could make over 200 syringes from one. I'm sure the dark stuff wasn't all spores LOL.


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: Eywa_devotee]
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good job bro, stuck through all the nay-sayers crap and produced!
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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: irishdixie]
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Got blue?





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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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I'd say the blue is from either all the spots from rough handling during harvest or it is drying out bad, give it a dunk before flushing again if its dry..


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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: MushroomHaven]
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It's blue because I cut off the entire exterior of the cake after the first flush.

I did this because I suspected the contams were getting worse and worse. It seems to work cause I don't really see any contams at all anymore.

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Re: Laziest and potentially worst First Grow ever. B+, Madbags, and Audio Receiver heat sources [Re: icecap]
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I may just have to use those B+ syringes I have been neglecting and just see what kind of experiments I can do with 'em. Good job.


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