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Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-)
    #18059736 - 04/04/13 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So EVERYONE hates to harvest bottom and side pins! I don't blame you, it's a total PITA! However I figured instead of constantly telling everyone it's not as hard as they think, and trying to explain my process 5 times a day... I found my pics and am making it a tek!

Star out by harvesting ALL your top fruits:


Then take a second tub (I use a spare mono), clean it off, and set it on top of the substrate inside the tub:


Once you're here, just flip it over:


And HARVEST!!



Now to dunk your mono, all you need to do is the opposite, and bring your tub back to the first picture. You can do this in a bathtub for ease of cleanup :yesnod: Just let cold water run though the top tub, and it'll stream into the bottom, fill up, and flow out the holes down the drain. Keep the water as cold as possible IMO. I let the water flow for a bit as it washes all the crap outta the tub and off the substrate. It also keeps the substrate submerged in water without having to add weights as the water in the top tub holds it down :hamsterdance:

I hope this helps ya'll!

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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18059744 - 04/04/13 10:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I do it the same way. :thumbup:
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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: Intelligentxfruit]
    #18059753 - 04/04/13 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:bender:

I've had many people tell me they've never thought of it :shrug: So I wrote it up! Glad to see you know where i'm comin from :hamsterdance:


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18059765 - 04/04/13 10:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're a fart smeller!


I mean...smart feller


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: Roman08640]
    #18059863 - 04/04/13 10:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You're a fart smeller!


I mean...smart feller



:laugh2:
You so funny

I love you long time!!
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18059890 - 04/04/13 10:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Is there any special picking requirement?  I just tug loose what will come loose and go from there.  That ok?


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: mpd]
    #18059913 - 04/04/13 10:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You want to cut at the base if you feel it will tear up the substrate.

Some pluck right off, some are "rooted" in pretty good, those I would cut at the base, close to the substrate.


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: mpd]
    #18060145 - 04/04/13 11:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
You want to cut at the base if you feel it will tear up the substrate.

Some pluck right off, some are "rooted" in pretty good, those I would cut at the base, close to the substrate.



If you're harvesting top fruits yes, but side pins and bottom pins shown in the pics need to be lifted gently off the substrate. I rinse my hand in alcohol or wear gloves for harvesting these (normally just the iso, I hate gloves)

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Is there any special picking requirement?  I just tug loose what will come loose and go from there.  That ok?



Make sure you're careful, you can pull chucks of sub if you're not


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18060562 - 04/05/13 01:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So.. when you cut them Ive come to notice there is stilla bit of fruit left on the cake.. and when dunked they turned black and gave off a strange sweet smell - Im betting bacterial contam on the fruits because once I got rid of those and diligently fanned, the sweet smell vanished.

Any ideas here Capn SHP?


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: Capn Blue Beard]
    #18060620 - 04/05/13 01:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure that's not just bruising?

The stumps are usually 100% mycellium, they will not rot.

Pics?


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060648 - 04/05/13 01:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
Are you sure that's not just bruising?

The stumps are usually 100% mycellium, they will not rot.

Pics?



Heres the pics i submitted earlier. Those fruits look exactly like everything else. The smell is gone and the mycelium is healthy. Dunno why it smelled sweet and turned black.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18057662#18057662


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060674 - 04/05/13 02:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

stumps will turn black and rot usually not a problem as they will sit and rot self-contained style.

That is very good, however when Kramer encounters this he says that putting the sub in a container where it can fruit out is great after a flip like this because several of the fruits will take off and grow to a gigantic proportion.  You can even dunk the casing before the flip and then let it do justice.

Gently rubbing the fruiting sides of the sub will cause all of the fruits to fall off with little damage to the sub, after drying, you can shake out your goods by removing several times to progressive trays and leaving all the dried shake(verm/sub/casing/shit) behind.


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: george castanza]
    #18060703 - 04/05/13 02:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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stumps will turn black and rot usually not a problem as they will sit and rot self-contained style.

That is very good, however when Kramer encounters this he says that putting the sub in a container where it can fruit out is great after a flip like this because several of the fruits will take off and grow to a gigantic proportion.  You can even dunk the casing before the flip and then let it do justice.

Gently rubbing the fruiting sides of the sub will cause all of the fruits to fall off with little damage to the sub, after drying, you can shake out your goods by removing several times to progressive trays and leaving all the dried shake(verm/sub/casing/shit) behind.



Soo... I just picked off 10+ potential giants...?



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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: george castanza]
    #18060707 - 04/05/13 02:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060718 - 04/05/13 02:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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stumps will turn black and rot usually not a problem as they will sit and rot self-contained style.

That is very good, however when Kramer encounters this he says that putting the sub in a container where it can fruit out is great after a flip like this because several of the fruits will take off and grow to a gigantic proportion.  You can even dunk the casing before the flip and then let it do justice.

Gently rubbing the fruiting sides of the sub will cause all of the fruits to fall off with little damage to the sub, after drying, you can shake out your goods by removing several times to progressive trays and leaving all the dried shake(verm/sub/casing/shit) behind.



Soo... I just picked off 10+ potential giants...?





possibly, if they looked like giant pins, then yes, if they looked like struggling mushrooms that have open caps then not so much.

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Quote:

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stumps will turn black and rot




I have never seen a stump rot.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15485457#15485457

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13625331#13625331

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13186182#13186182

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16390278#16390278

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16208895#16208895




I did not look at your links, but yes, sometimes stumps will rot, it does happen they turn black and slimy, and usually if left alone will not affect the casing, it happens, trust me.


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: george castanza]
    #18060729 - 04/05/13 02:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's not about trust, it's about facts.

If your not even going to read the links I posted, then I why should I listen to you?

EDIT: No disrespect intended, but that was a little bogus if you ask me.


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060774 - 04/05/13 02:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060791 - 04/05/13 02:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dont listen to me if you don't like, I speak from fruiting literally thousands upon thousands of mushrooms.

No disrespect to you my friend, I just have no time to entertain an avenue of thought that I know to be wrong.

They will occasionally rot and usually to no consequence.  And I am talking hand twisted that breaks and cut with a sharp knife. This is fact.


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: george castanza]
    #18060804 - 04/05/13 02:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I speak from fruiting literally thousands upon thousands of mushrooms.




I get that, which is why I meant absolutely no disrespect, but so does this guy.

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RogerRabbit said:
Leaving a 'stump' doesn't cause rot or contamination.  That's an old myth that won't die because noobs keep repeating it to other noobs.  In our farm, we cut every mushroom off with a sharp knife whether it's part of a cluster or not.  We never remove the stumps.  I have substrate blocks from last year that are outdoors and still fruiting, with all the stumps from 2009. There's no rot or mold.  They even survived all last winter under the snow, thawing out and fruiting again this year, old stumps and all.
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And everyone else I linked to does as well.

This is why I am so skeptical.

I guess it's just one of those things nobody agrees on.  :shrug:


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Re: Side and bottom pins?! No worries! SHP style B-) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18060814 - 04/05/13 02:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i consider my self smart, and i cant believe i never thought of this :/.


now i feel stupid +5shrooms for you


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