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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: The Vapor]
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My church has a different set of commandments. The sixth one is though shalt murder.

:blewmeanie:

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: graffix87]
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graffix87 said:
I still see no reason for all the reasons you gave me to kill.

The sixth Commandment - You shall not murder


:lol:

of the 613 commandments of the old testament, why do you adhere to this one so strictly?

surely you ignore the many commandments requiring animal sacrifices as sin offerings, surely you ignore the commandments which require the daughter of a priest to be burned at the stake if she's a slutty whore. what criteria do you use to choose which commandments you adhere to and which you ignore?


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: rohr]
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rohr said:
graffix87 said:
I still see no reason for all the reasons you gave me to kill.

The sixth Commandment - You shall not murder


:lol:

of the 613 commandments of the old testament, why do you adhere to this one so strictly?

surely you ignore the many commandments requiring animal sacrifices as sin offerings, surely you ignore the commandments which require the daughter of a priest to be burned at the stake if she's a slutty whore. what criteria do you use to choose which commandments you adhere to and which you ignore?


Also, when a non-virgin gets married, it's his duty to stone her to death. Wait a second that one's contradictory to the 6th commandment. I wonder what else in that epic work of fiction is contradictory. I might be here a while...

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: graffix87]
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human life isn't valuable

human consciousness is valuable


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: rohr]
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Fuck all the bickering!

Enough already!

I have a solution for everyone.

POSTABORTION...... it involves aborting humans who are already born.
We can start with the people proclaiming "we are over populated, humans are nothing special, there are good reasons for abortion like rape incest yada yada no money blah blah."

If you really believe we are over populated and nothing special, then you should be willing to Gladly volunteer for my Postabortion Program. If you are a rape victim that somehow justifies killing a fetus to consciously get retribution for your rapist, then you are Damaged goods and also a great candidate for this program. If you choose to destroy useless cell masses for financial reasons, then you are an irresponsible twit and quite frankly, probably responsible for the stupidity in the housing crisis and credit problems we are currently suffering from. Also a great candidate.

So there. No more unwanted babies from useless idiots with little sense in using contraception or "taking a chance" when you know you cant afford the result. No more antagonistic anti-human elitist hipsters. No more "psychologically broken" people poisoning the gene pool.

That is my message. TEAM PEOPLE!







This message paid for by the "Elect Circle Jerk for President Foundation".


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"DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music." Richard Dawkins


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Circle Jerk]
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Circle Jerk said:
Fuck all the bickering!

Enough already!

I have a solution for everyone.

POSTABORTION...... it involves aborting humans who are already born.
We can start with the people proclaiming "we are over populated, humans are nothing special, there are good reasons for abortion like rape incest yada yada no money blah blah."

If you really believe we are over populated and nothing special, then you should be willing to Gladly volunteer for my Postabortion Program. If you are a rape victim that somehow justifies killing a fetus to consciously get retribution for your rapist, then you are Damaged goods and also a great candidate for this program. If you choose to destroy useless cell masses for financial reasons, then you are an irresponsible twit and quite frankly, probably responsible for the stupidity in the housing crisis and credit problems we are currently suffering from. Also a great candidate.

So there. No more unwanted babies from useless idiots with little sense in using contraception or "taking a chance" when you know you cant afford the result. No more antagonistic anti-human elitist hipsters. No more "psychologically broken" people poisoning the gene pool.

That is my message. TEAM PEOPLE!







This message paid for by the "Elect Circle Jerk for President Foundation".


Are you trolling, or really just that dumb?

Your first paragraph is just an inarticulate rant that hardly makes a point so we'll move on to the second paragraph.

You contradict yourself in the first sentence of your argument. Kudos brah. If you've thought up a postabortion plan, than apparently you're one of the people that are complaining about overpopulation of some sort. You are just more precise about who you think are overpopulating the planet. So basically you're the equivalent of an extremist like the KKK or Nazis. Very original. :facepalm:
A rape victim killing her child to get back at the rapist? I would call that idea half baked, but let's be real, that would be giving that idea entirely too much credit. Seeing the traits of someone who raped you in your child on a daily basis for 18+ years would be fucking horrid. If you don't believe me, I'll go find some twins. The first one can pound your asshole into a putrid mess and then you can raise the other as your child. We'll see how long before you snap. :wink:
So if I cut off my balls so I don't have children for financial reasons, I'm an idiot, responsible for you not being able to get a house... and for all intents and purposes responsible for the Holocaust, since I'm just that damn good. Glad you thought that one through, heh.

Finally, I can sum up the 3rd paragraph pretty simply... watch this.
Circle Jerk said:
I'm a sad little virgin that thinks no one should have sex since I can't get a piece.


Scary simple explanation right thurrr.

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Miss Mush: how can you decide that the baby will end up having a difficult life? maybe they will overcome the odds and live a very productive and fulfilling life.


On the other hand it may grow up to be a horrid arsehole, be judged a bad'un, and be sent to the Eternal fire-pits with the red hot poker treatment as a non-optional extra.
Just a guess, but i be thinking most of those suffering 'souls' would have preferred to have been aborted. No?

I'm not sure you pro lifers are not just a little jealous ,that your parents didn't love you enough to abort you and ensure your holding hands with jebus for an Eternity of carol singing. That they would force you to be born, and face the "narrow path" that, if you fail, will lead to the  Eternal "red hot poker" scenario. How awful for you.

Maybe, aborting your fetus's/feti, is the greatest act of sacrificial love parents can show for their conceptions.


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: deucedbi9]
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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:
Miss Mush: how can you decide that the baby will end up having a difficult life? maybe they will overcome the odds and live a very productive and fulfilling life.


On the other hand it may grow up to be a horrid arsehole, be judged a bad'un, and be sent to the Eternal fire-pits with the red hot poker treatment as a non-optional extra.
Just a guess, but i be thinking most of those suffering 'souls' would have preferred to have been aborted. No?

I'm not sure you pro lifers are not just a little jealous ,that your parents didn't love you enough to abort you and ensure your holding hands with jebus for an Eternity of carol singing. That they would force you to be born, and face the "narrow path" that, if you fail, will lead to the  Eternal "red hot poker" scenario. How awful for you.

Maybe, aborting your fetus's/feti, is the greatest act of sacrificial love parents can show for their conceptions.


:lolwut:


To drunk to understand.
:feelsbadman:


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Better to be Socrates dissatisfied then a fool satisfied.
And if the fool or the pig are of different opinion, it is because they only know their side of the question."
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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Circle Jerk]
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Circle Jerk said:
If you really believe we are over populated and nothing special, then you should be willing to Gladly volunteer for my Postabortion Program. If you are a rape victim that somehow justifies killing a fetus to consciously get retribution for your rapist, then you are Damaged goods and also a great candidate for this program. If you choose to destroy useless cell masses for financial reasons, then you are an irresponsible twit and quite frankly, probably responsible for the stupidity in the housing crisis and credit problems we are currently suffering from. Also a great candidate.

So there. No more unwanted babies from useless idiots with little sense in using contraception or "taking a chance" when you know you cant afford the result. No more antagonistic anti-human elitist hipsters. No more "psychologically broken" people poisoning the gene pool.

That is my message. TEAM PEOPLE!



poor form :facepalm:

you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the majority of abortions are obtained by women over the age of 25 who have already had a child (or children). also, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that no form of birth control is 100% effective 100% of the time (save for a few surgical procedures which doctors refuse to perform on just anyone).

you don't believe a responsible adult should have any say in the fate of their own organs. while you are entitled to your opinion, i would like you to know: it disgusts me.


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: rohr]
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I dont see the fallacy...

If the earth is overpopulated.... You are one of the parasites overpopulating it.
If a person has no financial means of taking care of a child.... Close your legs or circumcise your clitoris, the lack of libido does wonders for one's sex life.
If you dont know how to test condoms or take birth control you are an idiot.
If you see the face of your rapist in a child's eyes, then you have mental problems. One should never misplace blame. It is a sign of mental weakness.

Control your organs all you want. But dont pretend that eliminating a fetus is not in violation of another's right to their organs.

Besides that my Postabortion program is strictly voluntary. If you are unsure of your own eligibility, you can be VolunTold. Thus removing such petty obstacles as free will..








Vote circle jerk.


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"DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music." Richard Dawkins


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Circle Jerk said:
If you see the face of your rapist in a child's eyes, then you have mental problems. One should never misplace blame. It is a sign of mental weakness.


Cutless said:
A rape victim killing her child to get back at the rapist? I would call that idea half baked, but let's be real, that would be giving that idea entirely too much credit. Seeing the traits of someone who raped you in your child on a daily basis for 18+ years would be fucking horrid. If you don't believe me, I'll go find some twins. The first one can pound your asshole into a putrid mess and then you can raise the other as your child. We'll see how long before you snap. :wink:



I wasn't joking. You can run off at the face as much as you want, because this is all in theory, but you couldn't man up the way you seem to think everyone on the planet should. You're a hypocrite and don't even realize it.

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Circle Jerk]
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Circle Jerk said:
I dont see the fallacy...


of course you don't, you're what we've coined "dense as shit" :facepalm:


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Circle Jerk said:If the earth is overpopulated.... You are one of the parasites overpopulating it.


i don't use the overpopulation argument here. makes no difference to me whether there's so many of us we must colonize the moon or whether we are on the brink of extinction, it is basic unalienable right for an adult to have control of their reproductive organs.

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Circle Jerk said:If a person has no financial means of taking care of a child.... Close your legs or circumcise your clitoris, the lack of libido does wonders for one's sex life.





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Circle Jerk said:If you dont know how to test condoms or take birth control you are an idiot.


if you think that there is any form of birth control that is 100% effective 100% of the time, you are a fucking idiot. statistically, accidents WILL happen even to the most diligent and cautious.

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Circle Jerk said:If you see the face of your rapist in a child's eyes, then you have mental problems. One should never misplace blame. It is a sign of mental weakness.


if you think taking fundamental rights away from responsible, innocent adults in lieu of humans that don't even exist yet is reasonable.. you must have some severely diminished mental capacity.

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Circle Jerk said:Control your organs all you want. But dont pretend that eliminating a fetus is not in violation of another's right to their organs.


don't pretend that a zygote's right to cell division outweighs the rights of an adult human being to choose to use their own body to incubate said zygote.

adoption? the main reason abortion was legalized in roe v. wade is due to the fact that early trimester abortion is many times SAFER than carrying a pregnancy to term. you act as if pregnancy and childbirth is a walk in the motherfucking park that carries no risks or long-term affects :facepalm:


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: rohr]
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Cutless said:
Circle Jerk said:
If you see the face of your rapist in a child's eyes, then you have mental problems. One should never misplace blame. It is a sign of mental weakness.


Cutless said:
A rape victim killing her child to get back at the rapist? I would call that idea half baked, but let's be real, that would be giving that idea entirely too much credit. Seeing the traits of someone who raped you in your child on a daily basis for 18+ years would be fucking horrid. If you don't believe me, I'll go find some twins. The first one can pound your asshole into a putrid mess and then you can raise the other as your child. We'll see how long before you snap. :wink:



I wasn't joking. You can run off at the face as much as you want, because this is all in theory, but you couldn't man up the way you seem to think everyone on the planet should. You're a hypocrite and don't even realize it.


rohr said:
Circle Jerk said:
I dont see the fallacy...


of course you don't, you're what we've coined "dense as shit" :facepalm:


Quote:
Circle Jerk said:If the earth is overpopulated.... You are one of the parasites overpopulating it.


i don't use the overpopulation argument here. makes no difference to me whether there's so many of us we must colonize the moon or whether we are on the brink of extinction, it is basic unalienable right for an adult to have control of their reproductive organs.

Quote:
Circle Jerk said:If a person has no financial means of taking care of a child.... Close your legs or circumcise your clitoris, the lack of libido does wonders for ones sex life.





Quote:
Circle Jerk said:If you dont know how to test condoms or take birth control you are an idiot.


if you think that there is any form of birth control that is 100% effective 100% of the time, you are a fucking idiot. statistically, accidents WILL happen even to the most diligent and cautious.

Quote:
Circle Jerk said:If you see the face of your rapist in a child's eyes, then you have mental problems. One should never misplace blame. It is a sign of mental weakness.


if you think taking fundamental rights away from responsible, innocent adults in lieu of humans that don't even exist yet is reasonable.. you must have some severely diminished mental capacity.

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Circle Jerk said:Control your organs all you want. But dont pretend that eliminating a fetus is not in violation of another's right to their organs.


don't pretend that a zygote's right to cell division outweighs the rights of an adult human being to choose to use their own body to incubate said zygote.

adoption? the main reason abortion was legalized in roe v. wade is due to the fact that early trimester abortion is many times SAFER than carrying a pregnancy to term. you act as if pregnancy and childbirth is a walk in the motherfucking park that carries no risks or long-term affects :facepalm:



Lmao@ bait n hook.... Yeah, well lets see. I would never advise the killing of one's twin. You are a sick puppy.
What ever ridiculous notion you buy into whether chance, natural selection, space crystal cells, alien manipulation, or stoned ape theory that allows you the convenience of dismissing a fetus as just cells and nothing more is the same cold point of view you should apply to yourself. After all, are we nothing more than animals doing what is in our nature? Isnt morality merely subjective anyway? Im sure that you awesome SMART fellas are simply 2 in a sea of probability. Thus, the loss of such noble creatures as yourselves would be uneventful in the least. There will just be another witty fart sniffer born to some fertile abortion advocate tomorrow. Or not. Just flesh. Dust in the wind. Vapor in time.





Obviously I dont Actually feel that rape victims should man up. I thought the sarcasm was clear. Im simply reflecting the absurdity exhibited by people that misrepresent the pro life movement

In essence, I myself am pro choice. You make the choice to engage in intercourse against your better judgment. If nature gave us hormones for the sake of expanding the species, then we should absolutely do so. If we all starve as a result of over population, then perhaps it is all part of a natural extinction event.







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"DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music." Richard Dawkins


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: rohr]
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rohr said:
bbl337 said:
so you believe its ok to choose to kill? Even its the baby is unborn? The movie shows the parallel to the holocaust and how over 50 million babies have been killed in 30 or so years. I'm sure I wont convince anyone to change there mind, but the video can make you think about it differently


not this shit again.

comparing the mass genocide of conscious human beings to a medical procedure involving the removal of a human that never existed is horrifyingly disgusting.



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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Abortion is killing life that would be a human. People who have abortions are murderers in my eyes. The worst kind. Killing a baby for selfish reasons is horrible. Your not ready? Well you were ready to take a penis and shove it in your vag. Grow up and take your responsibilities for your actions.

What about rape you ask? Your still killing a life that would be a human. I do think abortion clinics should be available, because without them we would have back alley abortions. You should have a choice, but your still murdering a person if you ask me. Live with that your whole life, but you should least acknowledge that your aborting a baby because you don't want it. Your aborting it BECAUSE it is a baby and you don't want one. I don't care how many cells of this or that is there, it's a baby and that why your killing it. If it wasn't a baby then you wouldn't be aborting anything. The way people logic a baby into not being a baby is sad.

Nothing makes me feel sicker than a woman who kills a baby and then doesn't even acknowledge the horror of it because, "it wasn't a baby yet". Fucking disgusting. It was a baby and you killed it before it because a burden to you. At least acknowledge that before you decide to kill it. If it wasn't going to be a tiny human then there would have been no issue in the first place. A baby is a baby the second the egg comes in contact with sperm IN MY OPINION. Ask any woman who wants a kid and gets pregnant. WERE GOING TO HAVE A BABY!!!! Yes you are, it's life is growing and it will be a human. Interrupt that and your killing a life that would have been your son or daughter. That's why it's so devastating to people who have miscarriages when they want to have their baby.

Of course this is MY OPINION. I wish it was more than my opinion and was everyone's, but you can't make people see something they don't want to see. If your the type of person that thinks that it's an acceptable way of dealing with a unwanted pregnancy, then I can see why you argue life into being worthless. Who would want to live with that guilt if it's something they would do themselves to avoid a burden. They could give up the baby for adoption, but then you would have the burden of going through childbirth and that's a burden in itself. Most people that are ok with abortion don't want to think of it that way. It's easier to say that it isn't a baby yet and make the problem go away.

I do think abortion should be an option, but people should realize you ARE killing human life. If you can wrap your head around that and still want to kill it then I guess no one can stop you. If no one can stop you then it might as well be done in a safe environment to avoid more human suffering.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


Edited by Kada (11/02/11 09:55 AM)

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Kada]
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I can't believe how many pro-lifers are infesting my beloved Shroomery. Lord, you people need to grow up and learn to respect women.

Brain activity in the fetus doesn't begin until 24 weeks. Until that point, there is only one functioning brain for what you call "two people," only one person capable of making decisions - only one person, in fact. This is why third trimester abortions are illegal - you could make an airtight case that that is baby-killing. Hence, it is illegal.

Be horrified of it all you like, but try to recognize that you sound horrifying too - handing down personal judgments on women like this, as if you always know best. (Not to mention - pretty much any surgical procedure is grisly and horrifying. There's nothing unique about abortion in that regard.)


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Set]
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Set said:
human life isn't valuable

human consciousness is valuable


Well put.

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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
I can't believe how many pro-lifers are infesting my beloved Shroomery. Lord, you people need to grow up and learn to respect women.

Brain activity in the fetus doesn't begin until 24 weeks. Until that point, there is only one functioning brain for what you call "two people," only one person capable of making decisions - only one person, in fact. This is why third trimester abortions are illegal - you could make an airtight case that that is baby-killing. Hence, it is illegal.

Be horrified of it all you like, but try to recognize that you sound horrifying too - handing down personal judgments on women like this, as if you always know best. (Not to mention - pretty much any surgical procedure is grisly and horrifying. There's nothing unique about abortion in that regard.)


Yeah whatever man.

I am not handing down personal judgement on anyone. You kill something alive and you should at least acknowledge your ending life. I don't go around preaching this shit, but this is a discussion about it on the pub so here I am. Hi I'm Kada and I think an abortion is ending life. I didn't say it's ending a life, because it won't get the chance to have one. An Abortion is taking that away before it even gets a chance. Never mind that it would be a living breathing person if you didn't find it a burden and kill it? No sir I could never think that way.

Your not going to argue your version of logic into my head and I won't be able to argue mine into yours. We both think abortion should be available even tho I think the person should acknowledge they are killing life where you don't. Damn me for having an idea about something that you don't agree with I guess. Damn me straight to heck.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Kada]
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gaaaaahhhhhh fucking abortion, biggest buzzkill in the universe.


it makes everyone pissed off, whether you agree with it or not.


just mention "abortion", say something controversial, and you're guaranteed a few pages in your thread.


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Re: 180 Movie - American holocaust - abortion [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
Tchan909 said:
I can't believe how many pro-lifers are infesting my beloved Shroomery. Lord, you people need to grow up and learn to respect women.

Brain activity in the fetus doesn't begin until 24 weeks. Until that point, there is only one functioning brain for what you call "two people," only one person capable of making decisions - only one person, in fact. This is why third trimester abortions are illegal - you could make an airtight case that that is baby-killing. Hence, it is illegal.

Be horrified of it all you like, but try to recognize that you sound horrifying too - handing down personal judgments on women like this, as if you always know best. (Not to mention - pretty much any surgical procedure is grisly and horrifying. There's nothing unique about abortion in that regard.)


Yeah whatever man.

I am not handing down personal judgement on anyone. You kill something alive and you should at least acknowledge your ending life. I don't go around preaching this shit, but this is a discussion about it on the pub so here I am. Hi I'm Kada and I think an abortion is ending life. I didn't say it's ending a life, because it won't get the chance to have one. An Abortion is taking that away before it even gets a chance. Never mind that it would be a living breathing person if you didn't find it a burden and kill it? No sir I could never think that way.

Your not going to argue your version of logic into my head and I won't be able to argue mine into yours. We both think abortion should be available even tho I think the person should acknowledge they are killing life where you don't. Damn me for having an idea about something that you don't agree with I guess. Damn me straight to heck.


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