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Re: Am I Having A BAD drug reaction? Serious only, please. [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
Here are the symptoms:  I started taking Wellbutrin a week ago, I've taken it many times.  Beforew that by description.  I have been taking 200~400 mg a day, which I have always easily handled. 

I am having states of euphoria and depression since about monday.
I can't sleep, I might have slept 8 hours in 4 days, and I'm not tired.
My thoughts are running so fast I can't concentrate. 
I am having mild acid-like hallucinations, long trails and things moving.
I am having really weird, bizarre thoughts that don't make sense.
I am having a hard time writing because my thinking won't be still.
I am hornier than a three-balled tomcat.
I am loving playing guitar for hours on end.
I am laughing silly sometimes at meaningless things.
I can't really write fast.  I left that fucked up sentence in the intro in to show whats coming up.  Im mixing up words, leaving out spelling, etc.  When I do write, i just have to edit the mistakes, but I am writing really well.  I am writing poetry now, just whatever comes out, and its decent.
I posted so much tonight, I was thinking they will ban me for posting too much.
No paranoia
If I go to the doctor, I would have to tell them I feel weird, but I am not really sick.
Its like a mild level 2 acid trip.
I am actually enjoying all the energy.
I am experiencing weird time dilation.  The visit to the doctor last week seems like it was a month ago.





If your young 17-25 and started taking anti depressants do to a type of Psychedelic psychosis it's not a good idea IMO and from experience. It's going to cause more damage than good, especially if your still using psychedelics and going through a late stage puberty. Stop tripping for awhile and let your chemicals repair and your mind settle. More chemicals to help a chemical imbalance is not always the way to go. Good luck. And message me if you want to have a private conversation about it.


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Re: Am I Having A BAD drug reaction? Serious only, please. [Re: starfire_xes]
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bupropion
(byoo-proe-pee-on)
Wellbutrin, Wellbutrin SR, Wellbutrin XL, Zyban

CLASSIFICATION(S)
Therapeutic: antidepressants, smoking deterrants
Pharmacologic: aminoketones

Pregnancy Category B   



INDICATIONS

    •  Treatment of depression (with psychotherapy)
    •  Smoking cessation (Zyban only)
    •  Unlabelled Uses:      •  Treatment of ADHD in adults (SR only)
    •  To increase sexual desire in women


ACTION

    •  Decreases neuronal reuptake of dopamine in the CNS
    •  Diminished neuronal uptake of serotonin and norepinephrine (less than tricyclic antidepressants)
    •  Therapeutic Effects:    ○  Diminished depression 
    ○  Decreased craving for cigarettes


PHARMACOKINETICS

Absorption: Although well absorbed, rapidly and extensively metabolized by the liver
Distribution: Unknown
Metabolism and Excretion: Extensively metabolized by the liver. Some conversion to active metabolites
Half-life: 14 hr (active metabolites may have longer half-lives)

TIME OF ACTION

antidepressant effect ROUTE  ONSET  PEAK  DURATION 
PO  1-3 wk  unknown  unknown 

CONTRAINDICATIONS/PRECAUTIONS

Contraindicated in:   
    •  Hypersensitivity
    •  History of bulimia, and anorexia nervosa
    •  Concurrent MAO inhibitor or ritonavir therapy
Use Cautiously in:   
    •  Renal/hepatic impairment (↓ dose recommended)
    •  Recent history of MI
    •  Geri: Geriatric patients (increased risk of drug accumulation; increased sensitivity to effects)
    •  History of suicide attempt
    •  Unstable cardiovascular status
    •  May ↑ risk of suicide attempt/ideation especially during early treatment or dose adjustment; this risk may be greater in adolescents or children
    •  OB: Pregnancy, lactation
    •  Pedi: Children <18 yr (safety not established)
Exercise Extreme Caution in:    •  History of seizures, head trauma or concurrent medications that ↓ seizure threshold (theophylline, antipsychotics, antidepressants, systemic corticosteroids)
    •  Severe hepatic cirrhosis (↓ dose required)

ADVERSE REACTIONS/SIDE EFFECTS*

*CAPITALS indicate life threatening; underlines indicate most frequent.

CNS: SEIZURES, agitation, headache, insomnia, mania, psychoses,
GI: dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, change in appetite, weight gain, weight loss,
Derm: photosensitivity,
Endo: hyperglycemia, hypoglycemia, syndrome of inappropriate ADH secretion,
Neuro: tremor,

INTERACTIONS

Drug-Drug:
    •  ↑ risk of adverse reactions when used with amantadine , levodopa or MAO inhibitors (concurrent use of MAO inhibitors is contraindicated)
    •  ↑ risk of seizures with phenothiazines, antidepressants , theophylline , corticosteroids , OTC stimulants/anorectics, or cessation of alcohol or benzodiazepines (avoid or minimize alcohol use)
    •  Blood levels ↑ by ritonavir (avoid concurrent use)
    •  Carbamazepine may ↓ blood levels and effectiveness
    •  Concurrent use with nicotine replacement may cause hypertension
    •  ↑ risk of bleeding with warfarin 
    •  Bupropion and one of its metabolites inhibit the CYP 2D6 enzyme system and may ↑ levels and risk of toxicity from antidepressants (SSRIs and tricyclic), some beta blockers , antiarrhythmics , and antipsychotics 

ROUTE AND DOSAGE



Depression    •  PO (Adults ): Immediate-release--100 mg twice daily initially; after 3 days may increase to 100 mg 3 times daily; after at least 4 wk of therapy, may increase up to 450 mg/day in divided doses (not to exceed 150 mg/dose; wait at least 6 hr between doses at the 300 mg/day dose or at least 4 hr between doses at the 450 mg/day dose). Sustained-release--150 mg once daily in the morning; after 3 days, may increase to 150 mg twice daily with at least 8 hr between doses; after at least 4 wk of therapy, may increase to a maximum daily dose of 400 mg given as 200 mg twice daily. Extended-release--150 mg once daily in the morning, may be increased after 4 days to 300 mg once daily; some patients may require up to 450 mg/day as a single daily dose


Smoking cessation    •  PO (Adults ): Zyban--150 mg once daily for 3 days, then 150 mg twice daily for 7-12 wk (doses should be at least 8 hr apart)

AVAILABILITY
    •  Tablets: 75 mg, 100 mg
    •  Cost: 75 mg $84.10/100, 100 mg $112.19/100
    •  Sustained-release tablets: 100 mg, 150 mg, 200 mg
    •  Cost: 100 mg $94.27/60, 150 mg $101.94/60
    •  Extended-release tablets: 150 mg, 300 mg
    •  Cost: 150 mg $91.63/30, 300 mg $121.03/30


NURSING IMPLICATIONS

ASSESSMENT

    •  Monitor mood changes. Inform physician or other health care professional if patient demonstrates significant increase in anxiety, nervousness, or insomnia
    •  Assess for suicidal tendencies, especially during early therapy. Restrict amount of drug available to patient
    •  Lab Test Considerations: Monitor hepatic and renal function closely in patients with kidney or liver impairment to prevent ↑ serum and tissue bupropion concentrations

POTENTIAL NURSING DIAGNOSES

    •  Ineffective coping (Indications). 

IMPLEMENTATION

    •  Do not confuse bupropion with buspirone. Do not confuse Zyban (bupropion) with Zagam (Sparfloxacin). Do not administer bupropion (Wellbutrin) with Zyban, contain same ingredients      ○  Administer doses in equally spaced time increments during day to minimize the risk of seizures. Risk of seizures increases four fold in doses greater than 450 mg per day 
    ○  May be initially administered concurrently with sedatives to minimize agitation. This is not usually required after the 1st wk of therapy
    ○  Insomnia may be decreased by avoiding bedtime doses. May require treatment during 1st wk of therapy
    ○  May be administered with food to lessen GI irritation
    ○  Nicotine patches, gum, inhalers, and spray may be used concurrently with bupropion

    •  PO: Sustained-release (SR or XL) tablets should be swallowed whole; do not break, crush, or chew 

PATIENT/FAMILY TEACHING

    •  Instruct patient to take bupropion as directed. Take missed doses as soon as possible and space day's remaining doses evenly at not less than 4-hr intervals. Missed doses for smoking cessation should be omitted. Do not double doses or take more than prescribed. May require 4 wk or longer for full effects. Do not discontinue without consulting health care professional. May require gradual reduction before discontinuation
    •  Bupropion may impair judgment or motor and cognitive skills. Caution patient to avoid driving and other activities requiring alertness until response to medication is known
    •  Advise patient to avoid alcohol during therapy and to consult with health care professional before taking other medications with bupropion
    •  Inform patient that frequent mouth rinses, good oral hygiene, and sugarless gum or candy may minimize dry mouth. If dry mouth persists for more than 2 wk, consult health care professional regarding use of saliva substitute
    •  Advise patient to notify health care professional if rash or other troublesome side effects occur
    •  Inform patient that unused shell of XL tablets may appear in stool; this is normal
    •  Advise patient to use sunscreen and protective clothing to prevent photosensitivity reactions
    •  Instruct female patients to inform health care professional if pregnancy is planned or suspected
    •  Advise patient to notify health care professional of medication regimen before treatment or surgery
    •  Emphasize the importance of follow-up exams to monitor progress. Encourage patient participation in psychotherapy
    •  Smoking Cessation: Smoking should be stopped during the 2nd week of therapy to allow for the onset of bupropion and to maximize the chances of quitting

EVALUATION/DESIRED OUTCOMES

    •  Increased sense of well-being    ○  Renewed interest in surroundings. Acute episodes of depression may require several months of treatment

    •  Cessation of smoking

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Re: Am I Having A BAD drug reaction? Serious only, please. [Re: Altered States]
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If your young 17-25 and started taking anti depressants do to a type of Psychedelic psychosis it's not a good idea IMO and from experience. It's going to cause more damage than good, especially if your still using psychedelics and going through a late stage puberty. Stop tripping for awhile and let your chemicals repair and your mind settle. More chemicals to help a chemical imbalance is not always the way to go. Good luck. And message me if you want to have a private conversation about it.



See that's the funny thing, starfire is in his fifties from what I have read.

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Re: Am I Having A BAD drug reaction? Serious only, please. [Re: InvisibleHunter]
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yeah I reacted the same way to wellbutrin

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Re: Am I Having A BAD drug reaction? Serious only, please. [Re: InvisibleHunter]
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InvisibleHunter said:
Quote:
If your young 17-25 and started taking anti depressants do to a type of Psychedelic psychosis it's not a good idea IMO and from experience. It's going to cause more damage than good, especially if your still using psychedelics and going through a late stage puberty. Stop tripping for awhile and let your chemicals repair and your mind settle. More chemicals to help a chemical imbalance is not always the way to go. Good luck. And message me if you want to have a private conversation about it.



See that's the funny thing, starfire is in his fifties from what I have read.



You are right, I have taken WB since 2000 on and off.  That is one of the few psychiatric drugs I can tolerate.  Also I noticed be careful on alcohol reduction, I quit alcohol right before these effects.  The first time I took it in 2000, it caused really fucked up psychosis and headaches, I almost had to quit.  But after 2 weeks, all the negative effects disappeared.  I felt really good, kind of like mild E.

This time I was prescribed to take 100~300mg for sleep at night....well, I took 300mg, that is enough to knock out a small pony, and I didn't even get sleepy.  I tolerate trazodone well, but this time I had a rare and nasty side effect--I became severely memory deficient, to the point that I had to stop.  I'm going to school next month, I can't having my mind so retarded that I can't rememb
er anything.


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