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A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids
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Hello and welcome to All who have taken the time to check out this thread,
I am new to this site and I would
I am a fellow enthusiast who has recently developed a strong desire to find the illusive Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata which is native to my home of south west ohio. I am in the very southwest corner of ohio and I am only about 30 minutes from the ohio river
At any rate I have read many posts on ovoid hunting tips. I am particularly grateful for this page, http://www.mushroomjohn.org/psilocybeovoideocystidiata2.htm, as it has many pictures you have taken of the environment I am looking for. I know of a nature preserve that looks somewhat similar to the environment in those pictures that is in my area.
I am planning on looking there when the season has started again but in the mean time I was wondering if you could help me with a few questions I have based on the information I have gathered.
1. Is the ideal hunting time when the temperature outside is around 70 degrees a day or 2 after rainfall?
2. If I have found an area near a creek bed with lots of decaying hardwood, but I haven't been able to identify any alder wood trees or Japanese knotweed, do you think it is still possible to find ovoids growing in this area or must knotweed/ alder tree/ maple be present in the area to find ovoids.
3. Should I be checking in more open areas or areas more densely covered with undergrowth and other plants? Should I be checking in shaded areas? In sandy areas that directly line the creeks or in the soil filled areas that area behind the soily banks of the creek?
4.Must the creek be a tributary of the Ohio river?
Any other important tips, tricks, or knowledge I have left out or missed is also greatly appreciated.
I want to say thanks in advance for taking the time to read my extensive questions.
Your Knowledge and time are both greatly appreciated.
thanks!,
Bobert

Edited by bobert (07/14/11 01:16 AM)

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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I have never found them not growing in knotweed, the best places to search in my opinion is along the bends of rivers where most of the wood can pile up after floods high rivers and such. They are not in season right now but don't let that discourage you, next good time to look is mid october, once you find them they won't be hard to find again.

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: Bretdaniel]
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Just keep an eye on this board, you'll find them after I find them, typically April, if you find morels in your area, that's a good indicator. Search all of the habitat you described. My best spot is right out in a feild, with no knotweed. I'd wait 5 days after the rain stops, but betwwen April 10-20 is when I start finding them

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: SomeGuy]
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This was my second year hunting ovoids and first year finding them. I wasn't so hot the first year. I found plenty of morels this year, but not in the same habitat or even general area as ovoids. I went looking for mushrooms often with the intent on finding ovoids, but just found a bunch of morels instead. Morels tend to grow on elm and by streams in my area, but I have only found ovoids by a larger creek and near hardwoods--in an absence of elm and morels.

That's crazy that you find them out in a field with no knotweed. The first ones I found were so characteristically chilling in on overflow wood debris in japanese knotweed. Even the others I found were at least near some japanese knotweed.

Basically what we're saying is check all possible spots. There are people in Central PA and surely elsewhere that are finding ovoids in their wood chips or in gardens. Just know what the myc like to eat, and be in the right area.


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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: mylfgur]
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Wow guys first of all I would like to say thanks for all the quick responses, tips, and information. It is so great to find a community so willing to help others. I went for a walk in a fairly large creek today with my friend for about 2 hours. I took a few poor quality pictures on my cell phone's cheap camera. I will try and upload them to this thread soon, and maybe you guys can rate how good of spots I am looking at, I fear after today's walk that I was too close tot he creek and not far enough in land, however it was a very scenic and rewarding hike. also while i was on the hike i noticed a plant that looked like thin baby bamboo, all along the creek banks, i took a picture, but i found this plant very interesting because it was covering huge areas. Maybe after i get  a chance to upload the picture of it someone will know what it is. I will most certainly do some more looking this fall.

I was also wondering if it would be beneficiary to buy some alder wood chips and take them down to sandy areas near creeks and lay down the wood chips in hopes of them being Colonized by ovoids later, or is this a waste of money?

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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I live in SE Kentucky and behind my house is a wooded area filled with poplar and maple.  In the spring we get the "poplar morels" and I've gathered tons of them.  Would ovoids grow in this type of atmosphere?  down the hill I have a natural spring that bubbles into a little brook with sandy sides.  I have beech, birch, deciduous magnolia, poplar, and oak growing in the same area.  Sorry, not trying to hijack your thread but I've wondered this same thing myself.

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: thunderkitten]
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I'd just hold-off on the wood-chips. Even if you were lucky enough to land some ovoid spores on them,(which wouldn't happen, unless there are some ovoids near-by) it would take 2 seasons to see anything. When you find some ovoids, bag up the wood around the find(with mycelium attached) and then add it to your alder chips

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: SomeGuy]
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thunderkitten said:
I live in SE Kentucky and behind my house is a wooded area filled with poplar and maple.  In the spring we get the "poplar morels" and I've gathered tons of them.  Would ovoids grow in this type of atmosphere?  down the hill I have a natural spring that bubbles into a little brook with sandy sides.  I have beech, birch, deciduous magnolia, poplar, and oak growing in the same area.  Sorry, not trying to hijack your thread but I've wondered this same thing myself.


No worries about hoppin on my thread and askin for some info man! your on topic and your saving all the nice people who answer questions from having to read 2 threads on the same topic.

paducahovoids said:
I'd just hold-off on the wood-chips. Even if you were lucky enough to land some ovoid spores on them,(which wouldn't happen, unless there are some ovoids near-by) it would take 2 seasons to see anything. When you find some ovoids, bag up the wood around the find(with mycelium attached) and then add it to your alder chips


So when you say add the ovoid mycelium wood to a bag of alder chips and keep it inside and wait for the mycelium to spread? or would one just want to mix it all up and put it near a creek bed right away?
by the way paducahovoids i really appreciate your continued help its great! with this kind of help anyone is sure to find ovoids this fall!

Edited by bobert (07/15/11 02:05 PM)

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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I'd leave it outside. When you bring it in your house, you are asking for mold to grow on it and ruin it. There's 2 ways to grow mushrooms...sterile(spores to agar to grain to bulk)(inside) and non-sterile(add mycelium to woodchips)if you bring something from the outside inside, it usually turns green

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: SomeGuy]
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So I finally got to upload some pictures from my ovoid habitat hunting nature walk!, I have them here to post. I went to a completely new creek area for a hike. it is a watershed that leads to a medium sized river which leads to the Ohio river. it doesn't seem as good a spot as the first spot i checked out, however i currently only have pictures ( of bad phone quality) from this hike. On my next hike to the spot which i assume to be better I will bring a digital camera with macro mode abilities.
Possible ovoid spots?? :


Cool stream flowing through water carved clay:
Interesting fungi I saw along the way:
(note that this particular fungi is less than a cm in total size. Not sure what it is if any1 has an ID thats cool)

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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That looks like a decent spot. I always find them around 50-100 feet from the water. That first mushroom appears to be a chaterelle. Cantherellus cinnibarinus, I would say. Deformed, but distinctive

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: SomeGuy]
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Ah ok when i go to the other hiking spot I will stay about 50+ feet from the creek and hike around those areas with my camera

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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So I hiked around in another possible spot today and took a ton of pictures with a decent camera. I also found a ton of interesting fungi! Ill post all the pictures here, if anyone has a possible ID on any of the fungi please share because i couldn't ID any of them but I am very curious.
Possible Ovoid Habitat shots? (feedback appreciated)
this one is about 40 feet from a creek, there are maple trees all over the immediate area:


This one is also near a creek surrounded by maple trees:


Hillside near a creek( does this not work 4 ovoids because the land isn't flat?)


Fungi:
these cool looking ones with the white stripe around the edge are growing from a decaying tree stump


Very interesting this fungi stood out to me so i took alot of pics:


Here you see its bruising color:


here you see the mycellium on a twig:


Small Spotted fungi:

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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The water is a good habitat looks for area with a lot of decomposing hardwood. The shelf fungi is a polyporus sp. A boleteus sp and the spiked one is probably a hydnum sp.

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: Bretdaniel]
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Thanks for the habitat feedback and all those IDs bretdaniel!
I also have one more interesting fungi from the same hike that i forgot to post, so here it is:

The fungi in the picture is growing out of an old decomposing fallen tree that has fallen across a creek.
If any1 has an ID on this fungi it would be greatly appreciated.
This particular fungi looks like a giant version of a smaller fungi i found on a small rotting log, however this one grows in a little cluster and the smaller fungi completely covered the small decomposing log, which leads me to believe it may have been a different mushroom.

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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Awesome mushrooms! Mycena leaiana


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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: TimmiT]
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TimmiT said:
Awesome mushrooms! Mycena leaiana


Yeah they are really awesome because i swear they almost like glow, like they have a glowing aura somehow. Like a faint glow in the dark feel to them and in the dense forest it looks really cool.

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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Hey I found these in the same area and i was thinking they might be gyms, any1 got an ID on these? much appreciated. Also im currently taking a spore print on them.



and as you can see in the third pic an animal chomped on them and it left some noticeable bruising, to me it looks red / dark orange

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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: bobert]
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Armillaria tabescens


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Re: A few questions about hunting Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, the infamous ovoids [Re: TimmiT]
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thank you timmt, does it matter that the tabesc
TimmiT said:
Armillaria tabescens


TimmiT to the rescue with many helpful IDs:grin:
Thanks for the info man!
ill post the spore print pic even tho its already ID'd just for fun and for the benefit of others who may read thisa thread later with a similar mnushroom ID inquiry

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