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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
Maybe this is why people think you're bipolar. You apparently feel an inherent right to what you expect. You can't even handle a little text banter that you don't need to read. Here's some advice, if you want to get better grow some thicker skin and stop getting upset off over little, meaningless, shit.


There's a HUGE difference between making side comments (which are apparent in almost every thread) but to completely, downright HIJACK a thread is very rude and you guys are doing this. It's completely rude. Please stop. You guys created an ENTIRE FUCKING PAGE of off topic hijacking that I had to click "ignore" to.

It shows complete disrespect for me and my current issue that I'm dealing with. This is not "the pub" nor is it "the psychedelic experience." this is not a thread for rude hijacking.

This is MY thread that I personally started and was personally looking for a meaningful answer. I started getting meaningful answers and then you losers had to come in and start your little side comments and thread hijacking. Please stop it. I am not angry, I just simply don't want side comments in a thread that has importance to me and to others. Start your own thread about your meaningless back and forth nothingness that contributes nothing to this thread.

Edited by occollegeboi (05/26/11 11:55 AM)

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: occollegeboi]
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First off this thread doesn't belong in this forum.  It belongs in Physical and Mental.  Take it there as they can also change diapers.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
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InTiMiDaToRdInO said:
it is slightly disrespectful to jack a thread with said banter and it is meaningless you said it yourself. This thread had a meaning about an important topic to some people before it was corrupted and became meaningless. The world doesnt revolved around the ignorant asses like you who disreguard the intentions of the OP. You two are just selfish frock and ice and its a shame


You are way off topic boy.:ass:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: InTiMiDaToRdInO]
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InTiMiDaToRdInO,

Name calling and personalisms are against the rules in PS&P. If you can't debate the topic without resorting to calling people names, then don't post in PS&P. Consider this your warning.

Read the rest of the rules here before you post again:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4526664#4526664

Everyone else, stop derailing the thread. Take the personal banter to PM.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: Diploid]
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If you were diagnosed as bipolar, it's likely you have it. There's no such thing as a "negative life vibration" with no clinical cause.

My gf's mom is bipolar, refuses to take medication, and is not only fucking crazy, she is a huge cunt to everyone around her.

You should take your medication.


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: NetDiver]
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But do you know what she's like when she's on her meds?


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You can knock yourself out for all I care

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: NetDiver]
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Samurai Drifter said:
If you were diagnosed as bipolar, it's likely you have it. There's no such thing as a "negative life vibration" with no clinical cause.

My gf's mom is bipolar, refuses to take medication, and is not only fucking crazy, she is a huge cunt to everyone around her.

You should take your medication.


The basis for the diagnosis of bipolar are subjective experiences of hypomania and depression and the extremity one experiences those. It is not made like how cancer is diagnosed. There is no known biochemical reason for having bipolar...at this time in history. It's all theories. Though there is no "cure" for bipolar, it does seem to be experienced differently at different times of a person's life. One year it may be better than another year. The seasons can also trigger hypomania or depression. I think if one is aware of their feelings and knows how to channel the energy, it can be possible to be medication free.

Anyway, I know that I had a problem with rage and anger prior to being on meds and I feel very bad for all the rage and anger I put towards my mother prior to being on meds. 

I was usually aware of my rage when I experienced and would work with accordance to it. For example, if my mom would be bothering me, I would stay in my room until I cooled down. A lot of the times I would choose to not do anything about it and would just rage and yell at my mom.

Again, I also hated life which I KNOW I projected onto certain people because I wanted them to see how much I hated life and in turn I would try to make them miserable so as to "see" my pain but I don't think it works like that.

I think if it's possible for a diabetic to be stable with insulin AND have an occasional candy bar, it's totally possible for a bipolar like me to enjoy a good mushroom trip (or a few, in this case) if I want to.

In all honestly, I'd rather take a prescription pill only on an "as needed" basis. I've expressed this to my doctor but he didn't do anything about it. He just said, "Well seroquel is helping so lets keep you on that." Seroquel also gives me really bad heart burn. It's been doing this since I started taking it on day one. Also, like I alrady stated, I was STILL getting depressed even while on 600mg!! Does this mean that I should have gone to a higher dose? Does it mean that the dose is CAUSING suicidal ideation? If such a high dose IS the cause of my suicidal ideation, does that mean I should have never gone up to a higher dose? I certainly feel fine right now being on 150mg versus 600mg. I know seroquel is used for "treatment resistant depression" so there's no reason why I should get depressed on such a high dose. Beats the hell right out of me.

Edited by occollegeboi (05/26/11 01:47 PM)

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: occollegeboi]
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To be honest I think like 1/4 of the people who are diagnosed with bi-polar disorder actually have it, it's like adhd and add, if you tell a docter that you can't pay attention and have trouble trying they just give you meds, it's that stupid


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You can knock yourself out for all I care

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: SacredUniverse]
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SacredUniverse said:
To be honest I think like 1/4 of the people who are diagnosed with bi-polar disorder actually have it, it's like adhd and add, if you tell a docter that you can't pay attention and have trouble trying they just give you meds, it's that stupid


This is exactly what I was trying to get at in my last post. The doc who "diagnosed" me gave me a list of symptoms for mania and depression. Told me to go home and see which ones I experienced and to the extreme I experienced it at. Such things were "being more interested in sex than usual" "having a flight of thoughts and being super energetic" you know the usual symptoms. They are ALL subjective. I mean, there's certainly times when I'm more interested in sex than other times, but is that a sign of hypomania? There's times when I've been able to stay awake alllll night long and be wide awake, but is that neccessarily a basis for "hypomania?"

Anyway, when I came back to see the doc the next week, I told him which ones I experienced. He then asked me, "Do you feel that since you've experienced these that you are bipolar?" All I could think was, "Well, yes, I've experienced these symptoms, but who am I to know? I'm not the doctor, YOU are, shouldn't YOU be able to tell if I'm bipolar or not?" 

So what I learned is that the diagnosis of bipolar, and even depression, is of a subjective manner.

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: occollegeboi]
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"This is MY thread"

Personal possession is an illusion. No wonder you get so upset, you think you can own the world.

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
"This is MY thread"

Personal possession is an illusion. No wonder you get so upset, you think you can own the world.


Everyone is selfish, the moment you make something you own it, everything is an illusion, but it keeps you happy doesn't it?


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: SacredUniverse]
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"everything is an illusion"

Ok. Then so is that.

Edited by xFrockx (05/26/11 02:15 PM)

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
"everything is an illusion"

Ok.


Well think about it, you can't prove your own existence to anyone else, and everything could just be random impulses firing in your brain, so by default, nothing exists except for you and maybe a little less


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: SacredUniverse]
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What permits the illusion to exist?

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
"This is MY thread"

Personal possession is an illusion. No wonder you get so upset, you think you can own the world.


This is a basic newbie mistake here.  We think we can control the direction of our threads.  I feel fortunate if the first three posts to any thread I make are on topic.

With time one learns to ignore anything going in other directions, realizing others have their own wants and desires.  It's basically a free for all here and no one gets everything they want.  Just like the rest of life.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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isnt there usually episodes of several weeks or days that the bipolar person experiences either a high or low and during whichever it is they experiece the general symptoms. A high is extreme, its beyond normal, it lasts days or weeks constantly. A low is extreme depression, rage, sadness, homicidial and suicidal ideation. Bipolar type 1 the highs and lows are EXTREME and obvious usually and bipolar type 2 the high is much lower but the low is still pretty bad and usually noticable AND usually theres a time when the person has days or weeks or months when they are stable. The diagnosis for bipolar is based on episodes not just instant mood swings, usually


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
What permits the illusion to exist?


The fact that you think it does, it's like god, if you think he exists he does, but if you don't think he does, he doesn't, there's no proof he does or doesn't, but if you think he does then he does to you


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: SacredUniverse]
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"The fact that you think it does,"

What permits me to exist?

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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
"The fact that you think it does,"

What permits me to exist?


Ever heard "I think therefore I am" ?


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Re: Bipolar or personal, negative life vibration? [Re: SacredUniverse]
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That doesn't answer my question. The fact that I think says nothing about what permits me to think.

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