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InvisibleSwami
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Good Vibes / Negative Energy
    #1565177 - 05/21/03 10:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Many talk of this type of energy as if it is a palpable, detectable field surrounding a person. "When Jeff walked into the room, it chilled considerably." "Everyone loves Mary. She brightens up any gathering."

I contend that it is ALL body language, sound of voice, appearance, reputation / perception and possibly pheremones.

I seriously doubt any person screened from the five senses could tell if it was Jeff or Mary that walked into the room.


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1565201 - 05/21/03 10:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i agree completely, for some reason people think they are in tune with who a person is just by looking at them. they are so confident in this "feeling" but in reality it's only ignorance. i find this kind of judgement is especially harmful because people usually follow these "in-tune" people blindly and will have a preconceived notion of who a person is, without even talking to them.


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: ]
    #1565265 - 05/21/03 11:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Body language, sound of voice, appearance, and reputation/perception are all a part of "vibes", along with many other factors. I also believe there are other stimulii that we don't have the tools to verifiably measure at this time. Perhaps someday in the future, science will come up with a "vibe meter".


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1565297 - 05/21/03 11:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I would agree. I especially like the phrasing of the last sentence. I also seriously doubt it and yet I remain open to the possibility.

Cheers,


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: ]
    #1565491 - 05/21/03 01:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's possible. It depends on what kind of connection you have with Jeff or Mary... sensation cannot be boxed into just five senses, also... Other than that, I agree. :wink:


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Adamist]
    #1565496 - 05/21/03 01:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Nice to see you posting btw.  I hope your sojourn worked out for you.  I missed you while you were gone. :frown:

Welcome back! :smile:


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: ]
    #1565523 - 05/21/03 01:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the warm welcome. I had some internal and external changes that I needed to make and will need to make again in the near future.

I'd also like to welcome back Swami... Long time no see, friend. :smile:


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Adamist]
    #1565544 - 05/21/03 01:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Good to "see" you too, Adamist. :smile:

It's possible. It depends on what kind of connection you have with Jeff or Mary...
That would be the perceptual part mentioned.

sensation cannot be boxed into just five senses, also...
Identifying five senses, is not "boxing in". What would you add that to those five? 


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1565556 - 05/21/03 01:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Identifying five senses, is not "boxing in". What would you add that to those five?



Mind, for one... :smile:


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1565683 - 05/21/03 01:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I couldn't agree more, Swami.  The "energy" or "vibes" that I detect from people definitely come from forms of nonverbal communication that I perceive with my five senses.

Non-verbal communication is such an interesting area of study.  I recently read a book called Essentials of Nonverbal Communication by Mark Knapp that I found to be very interesting.  I hope to read more in-depth about this subject in the future.

Swami, your logic and argument skills are beautiful!  Glad to see you around again! :smile:

-RebelSteve


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1567752 - 05/22/03 01:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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  I seriously doubt any person screened from the five senses could tell if it was Jeff or Mary that walked into the room. 



Just put them in a sealed box in the middle of the room, suspended from or supported by something not connected to the structure containing the room. With air and exaust that would not interact with the atmospere of the room. They would probably know somethings up. :grin: 


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OrgoneConclusion said:
I have done it before and it never has an effect on the true believer so what is the point?




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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1567877 - 05/22/03 01:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've said this a few times now...the sub conscious is aware of everything and can read others by their body language, sound of voice, appearance, reputation / perception and possibly pheremones.

This may come to the conscious mind as a feeling or "vibe"


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1568678 - 05/22/03 10:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I contend that it is ALL body language, sound of voice, appearance, reputation / perception and possibly pheremones.





NO

Listen to my friends' story here
"
I boarded a train, and seated myself, always trying to avoid crowded seats, in a relatively quiet area. I spotted a man who appeared to be in old clothes, wearing a hat and by the looks of it, he was homeless. I also sensed the odour, but this is nothing out of the ordinary for these very unfortunate homeless people with whom I sympathize.

The person had a nervous tick, or so I called it, his jaw would move, open, close, side to side, and he would murmur something inaudible once in a while.

So being on the train and having time to spare, I started doing energywork, raising it from my feet up and bouncing.

At the same exact moment, the person's movements became more pronounced, his murmurs louder, and he appeared 'uneasy'. I stopped, and after a while his reactions normalized. This happened in a span of 5 minutes.

I tried raising and continued raising energy again, and the same occured, but... he was searching around for the 'source' of this energy or so it seems, he was looking around confused murmuring, and at this point, even others on the subway focused their attention towards this man.

It is now that I looked directly at him and smiled, at which he reacted with snarls and gorans, focusing at me. His body was moving inarticulately, this man appeared seriously upset... and then, I tried to 'reach out' and sense him with my energy, added to this were emotions of my compassion and understanding of the state he was in and many wishes of good fortune and destiny turning for the better for him, extending it in his direction. This really pissed him off, as the train was comming to a halt... he stood up, and walked backwards towards the door to exit the train. As he was walking bacwards, he spat a few times in my direction, then moved back, spat a few more times, until he was out of the train and the door closed in front of him.
"

I find spitting "touch" highly amusing :laugh:

Now, just because YOU don't know anything about energy, doesnt mean that its not there.


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: cleaner]
    #1568696 - 05/22/03 10:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

at which he reacted with snarls and gorans
I would be wary of anyone who can conjure up Gorans - they are nasty demons!

Now, just because YOU don't know anything about energy, doesnt mean that its not there.
Just because you won't take the Swami Energy Challenge does't mean that ___(you fill in the blank).


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1568708 - 05/22/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well, many people say that they "know" when someone is looking at them. An experiment could be carried out whereby Person A could stand with his/her back towards Person B while Person B either stared at the floor or stared at Person A. Person A would then state whether or not he/she felt Person B was looking at him/her.


Sound good?


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Revelation]
    #1568719 - 05/22/03 10:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You know where I would put my money. If people knew when they were being watched, then shows such as "Candid Camera", "Scare Tactics", "Punk'd", "Cheaters", etc., would not exist.


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1569026 - 05/22/03 01:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I heared about that experiemtn they did. they did it all in a lab. I think they measured heart rate or some such thing like that too.

also...swami, im getting all these good vibes from you man..all this positive energy.


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #1569067 - 05/22/03 02:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"I heard... they, they, they" - references, man, references!


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: Swami]
    #1569085 - 05/22/03 02:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Dare shall i say empathy,  :shocked: :shocked: i forget you don't believe in such psychic hogwash! :grin:


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Re: Good Vibes / Negative Energy [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1569109 - 05/22/03 02:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You lost me bro. What is your point?


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