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Iraq War Quiz
    #1414019 - 03/27/03 09:21 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

1. The anti-war movement supports our troops by urging that they be brought home immediately so they neither kill nor get killed in a unjust war. How has the Bush administration shown its support for our troops?

A. The Republican-controlled House Budget Committee voted to cut $25 billion in veterans benefits over the next 10 years.

B. The Bush administration proposed cutting $172 million from impact aid programs which provide school funding for children of military personnel.

C. The administration ordered the Dept. of Veterans Affairs to stop publicizing health benefits available to veterans.

D. All of the above.


2. The anti-war movement believes that patriotism means urging our country to do what is right. How do Bush administration officials define patriotism?

A. Patriotism means emulating Dick Cheney, who serves as Vice-President while receiving $100,000-$1,000,000 a year from Halliburton, the multi-billion dollar company which is already lining up for major contracts in post-war Iraq.

B. Patriotism means emulating Richard Perle, the warhawk who serves as head of the Defense Intelligence Board while at the same time meeting with Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi on behalf of Trireme, a company of which he is a managing partner, involved in security and military technologies, and while agreeing to work as a paid lobbyist for Global Crossing, a telecommunications giant seeking a major Pentagon contract.

C. Patriotism means emulating George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Tom DeLay, John Ashcroft, Lewis Libby, and others who enthusiastically supported the Vietnam War while avoiding serving in it and who now are sending others to kill and be killed in Iraq.

D. All of the above.


3. The Bush administration has accused Saddam Hussein of lying regarding his weapons of mass destruction. Which of the following might be considered less than truthful?

A. Constant claims by the Bush administration that there was
documentary evidence linking Iraq to attempted uranium purchases in Niger, despite the fact that the documents were forgeries and CIA analysts doubted their authenticity.

B. A British intelligence report on Iraq's security services that was in fact plagiarized, with selected modifications, from a student article.

C. The frequent citation of the incriminating testimony of Iraqi
defector Hussein Kamel, while suppressing that part of the testimony in which Kamel stated that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction had been destroyed following the 1991 Gulf War.

D. All of the above.


4. White House Press Secretary Ari Fleisher stormed out of a press conference when the assembled reporters broke into laughter after he declared that the U.S. would never try to bribe members of the UN. What should Fleisher have said to defend himself?

A. It wasn't just bribery; we also ordered the bugging of the home and office phones and emails of the UN ambassadors of Security Council member states that were undecided on war.

B. Oh, come on! We've been doing this for years. In 1990 when Yemen voted against authorizing war with Iraq, the U.S. ambassador declared "That will be the most expensive 'no' vote you ever cast."

C. Why do you think the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act makes one of the conditions for an African country to receive preferential access to U.S. markets that it "not engage in activities that undermine United States national security or foreign policy interests"?

D. All of the above.


5. George Bush has declared that "we have no fight with the Iraqi people." What could he have cited as supporting evidence?

A. U.S. maintenance of 12 years of crippling sanctions that strengthened Saddam Hussein while contributing to the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

B. The fact that "coalition" forces have indicated that they will use cluster bombs in Iraq, despite warnings from human rights groups that "The use of cluster munitions in Iraq will endanger civilians for years to come."

C. By pointing to the analogy of Afghanistan, which the U.S. pledged not to forget about when the war was over, and for which the current Bush administration foreign aid budget request included not one cent in aid.

D. All of the above.


6. The Bush administration has touted the many nations that are part of the "coalition of the willing." Which of the following statements about this coalition is true?

A. In most of the coalition countries polls show that a majority, often an overwhelming majority, of the people oppose the war.

B. More than ten of the members of the coalition of the willing are actually a coalition of the unwilling - unwilling to reveal their names.

C. Coalition members - most of whose contributions to the war are negligible or even zero - constitute less than a quarter of the countries in the UN and contain less than 20% of the world's population.

D. All of the above.


7. The war on Iraq is said to be part of the "war on terrorism." Which of the following is true?

A. A senior American counterintelligence official said: "An American invasion of Iraq is already being used as a recruitment tool by Al Qaeda and other groups....And it is a very effective tool."

B. Become "a battle cry, in a way," for Al Qaeda recruiters.

C. France's leading counter-terrorism judge said: "Bin Laden's
strategy has always been to demonstrate to the Islamic community that the West, and especially the U.S., is starting a global war against Muslims. An attack on Iraq might confirm this vision for many Muslims. I am very worried about the next wave of recruits."

D. All of the above.


8. The Bush administration says it is waging war to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Which of the following is true?

A. The United States has refused to ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, viewed worldwide as the litmus test for seriousness about nuclear disarmament.

B. The United States has insisted on a reservation to the Chemical Weapons Convention allowing the U.S. President the right to refuse an inspection of U.S. facilities on national security grounds, and blocked efforts to improve compliance with the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention.

C. Vice Admiral Lowell E. Jacoby, Director of the Defense
Intelligence Agency, testified on Feb. 11, 2003, "The long-term trends with respect to WMD and missile proliferation are bleak. States seek these capabilities for regional purposes, or to provide a hedge to deter or offset U.S. military superiority."

D. All of the above.


9. The Bush administration says it wants to bring democracy to Iraq and the Middle East. Which of the following is true?

A. If there were democracy in Saudi Arabia today, backing for the U.S. war effort would be the first thing to go, given the country's "increasingly anti-American population deeply opposed to the war."

B. The United States subverted some of the few democratic governments in the Middle East (Syria in 1949, Iran in 1953), and has backed undemocratic regimes in the region ever since.

C. The United States supported the crushing of anti-Saddam Hussein revolts in Iraq in 1991.

D. All of the above.


10. Colin Powell cited as evidence of an Iraq-Al Qaeda link an audiotape from bin Laden in which he called Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party regime "infidels." Which of the following is more compelling evidence?

A. An FBI official told the New York Times: "We've been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don't think it's there."

B. According to a classified British intelligence report seen by BBC News, "There are no current links between the Iraqi regime and the al-Qaeda network."

C. According to Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror, "Since U.S. intervention in Afghanistan in October 2001, I have examined several tens of thousands of documents recovered from Al Qaeda and Taliban sources. In addition to listening to 240 tapes taken from Al Qaeda's central registry, I debriefed several Al Qaeda and Taliban detainees. I could find no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda."

D. All of the above.


Answers and Sources
1. D
(a) Cong. Lane Evans, "Veterans Programs Slashed by House Republicans," Press Release, 3/13/03, http://www.veterans.house.gov/democratic/press/108th/3-13-03budget.htm
(b) Brian Faler, "Educators Angry Over Proposed Cut in Aid; Many Children in Military Families Would Feel Impact," Washington Post, 3/19/03, p. A29.
(c) See Veterans' for Common Sense, letter to George W. Bush, 3/20/03 http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/print.asp?id=563 Melissa B. Robinson, "Hospitals Face Budget Crunch," Associated Press, 7/31/02; Jason Tait, "Veterans angered by marketing ban," Eagle-Tribune (Lawrence, MA), 8/2/02, http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20020802/FP_003.htm

2. D
(a) Warren Vieth and Elizabeth Douglass, " Ousting Hussein could open the door for U.S. and British firms. French, Russian and Chinese rivals would lose their edge," Los Angeles Times, 3/12/03, p. I:1; Robert Bryce and Julian Borger, "Halliburton: Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor, Bush deputy gets Dollars 1m from firm with Iraq oil deal," Guardian (London), 3/12/03, p. 5 (which notes that Halliburton "would not say how much the payments are; the obligatory disclosure statement filled by all top government officials says only that they are in the range of" $100,000 and $1 million.
(b) Seymour M. Hersh, "Lunch with the Chairman," New Yorker, 3/16/03; Stephen Labaton, "Pentagon Adviser Is Also Advising Global Crossing," NYT, 3/21/03, p. C1. Perle is to be paid $725,000 for his lobbying effort, including $600,000 if his lobbying is successful.
(c) New Hampshire Gazette, "The Chickenhawks," http://nhgazette.com/chickenhawks.html

3. D

(a) See the evidence collected in Cong. Henry Waxman's letter to George W. Bush, 3/17/03, http://www.house.gov/waxman/text/admin_iraq_march_17_let.htm
(b) See Glen Rangwala's report, http://traprockpeace.org/britishdossier.html
(d) See Glen Rangwala's report, http://traprockpeace.org/kamel.html

4. D
(a) Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy, and Peter Beaumont, The Observer (London), 3/2/03.
(b) Quoted in Phyllis Bennis, Calling the Shots: How Washington Dominates Today's UN, New York: Olive Branch, 1996, p. 33.
(c) Sarah Anderson, Phyllis Bennis, and John Cavanagh, Coalition of the Willing or Coalition of the Coerced?: How The Bush Administration Influences Allies in Its War on Iraq, Washington, DC: Institute for Policy Studies, 2/26/03, p. 4.

5. D
(a) For background, see Anthony Arnove, ed., Iraq Under Siege: The Deadly Impact of Sanctions and War, Cambridge: South End Press, updated ed. 2003.
(b) Paul Waugh, "Labour MPs Attack Hoon After He Reveals That British Forces Will Use Cluster Bombs," Independent, 3/21/03, p. 4; Human Rights Watch, Press Release, 3/18/03: "Persian Gulf: U.S. Cluster Bomb Duds A Threat; Warning Against Use of Cluster Bombs in Iraq."
(c) Zvi Bar'el, "Flaws in the Afghan Model," Ha'aretz, 3/14/03, http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=272884

6. D
(a) See, for example, the revealing comment of Secretary of State Powell: "We need to knock down this idea that nobody is on our side. So many nations recognize this danger [of Iraq's weapons]. And they do it in the face of public opposition." Quoted in Steven R. Weisman With Felicity Barringer, "Urgent Diplomacy Fails To Gain U.S. 9 Votes In The U.N." NYT, 3/10/03, p. A1)
(b) U.S. Dept. of State, Daily Press Briefing, Richard Boucher> , Washington, DC, 3/18/03.
(c) Country list: White House, Statement of Support from Coalition, 3/25/03, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/print/20030325-8.html population calculated from Statistical Abstract of the United States, 2001, Washington, DC: 2001, table 1327. Total includes USA. The White House list includes countries whose leaders have done no more than state their support for the United States, and the listing changes from day to day, with some countries being added and some removed.

7. D
(a) Don Van Natta Jr. and Desmond Butler, "Anger On Iraq Seen As New Qaeda Recruiting Tool," NYT, 3/16/03, p. I:1.
(b) Van Natta and Butler, NYT, 3/16/03.
(c) Van Natta and Butler, NYT, 3/16/03.

8. D
(a) Colum Lynch, "U.S. Boycotts Nuclear Test Ban Meeting; Some Delegates at U.N. Session Upset at Latest Snub of Pact Bush Won't Back," Washington Post, 11/12/02, p. A6.
(b) Amy E. Smithson, "U.S. Implementation of the CWC," in Jonathan B. Tucker, The Chemical Weapons Convention: Implementation Challenges and Solutions, Monterey Institute, April 2001, pp. 23-29, http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/tuckcwc.htm; Jonathan Tucker, "The Fifth Review Conference of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," Feb. 2002, http://www.nti.org/e_research/e3_7b.html.
(c) Testimony before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, excerpted at http://traprockpeace.org/usefulquotesoniraq.html

9. D
(a) Craig S. Smith, "Saudi Arabia Seems Calm But, Many Say, Is Seething," NYT, 3/24/03, p. B13. In fact, "Though the Saudi government officially denies it, the bombing campaign is being directed from Saudi Arabia - something that few Saudis realize."
(b) On Syria, see Douglas Little, ACold War and Covert Action: The United States and Syria, 1945 1958,@ Middle East Journal, vol. 44, no. 1, Winter 1990, pp. 55 57. On Iran, see Mark J. Gasiorowski, "The 1953 Coup D'Etat in Iran," International Journal of Middle East Studies, vol. 19, Aug. 1987, pp. 261-86.
(c) Andrew Cockburn and Patrick Cockburn, Out of the Ashes: The Resurrection of Saddam Hussein, New York: HarperPerennial. 1999, chap. 1.

10. D
(re audiotape, see David Johnston, "Top U.S. Officials Press Case Linking Iraq To Al Qaeda," NYT, 2/12/03, p. A1; Mohamad Bazzi, "U.S. says bin Laden tape urging Iraqis to attack appears real," Newsday, 2/12/03, p. A5.
(a) James Risen and David Johnston, "Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. On Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda," NYT, 2/2/03, p. I:13.
(b) "Leaked Report Rejects Iraqi al-Qaeda Link," BBC News, 2/5/03.
(c) Rohan Gunaratna, "Iraq and Al Qaeda: No Evidence of Alliance," International Herald Tribune, 2/19/03.

Interpreting Your Score
9-10 Correct: Excellent. Contact United for Peace and Justice,
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ and work to fight the war and the
system that produced it.
6-8 Correct: Fair. You've been watching a few too many former generals and government officials who provide the "expert" commentary for the mainstream media. Read the alternative media!
3-5 Correct: Poor. Don't feel bad. George W. Bush only got a C- in International Relations at College.
0-2 Correct: Failing. You have a bright future as an "embedded" journalist.



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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414032 - 03/27/03 09:26 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Geez, that's even more biased than what I usually read while browsing Democratic Underground. Where did you dig that up?


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1414041 - 03/27/03 09:29 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

lol...It was sent to me via email...and of course it is biased. But it does bring up many good points.


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414053 - 03/27/03 09:31 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

I liked reading it and it has lots of good points. If you really want to make some new e-friends post it of freerepublic.com, heh.


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1414075 - 03/27/03 09:38 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

You know what?...I think I'll do just that!  Should be good for a chuckle...stay tuned.  :grin:


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414082 - 03/27/03 09:40 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

LOL post the link when you do, for our enjoyment!  :grin:


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1414097 - 03/27/03 09:47 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)



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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414107 - 03/27/03 09:51 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Hmmm already got yanked...some "free" republic...they deleted it in under 2 minutes and revoked my posting priviledges...that's gotta be some kind of record.

Censorship at it's finest...I have just officially become that sites worst nightmare...


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414141 - 03/27/03 10:05 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Wow, that is fast, I was a member there for 20  minutes before I was banned.  :grin:


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1414161 - 03/27/03 10:14 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

I guess opposing opinions in a "free republic" are frowned upon...


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414200 - 03/27/03 10:27 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

They should have left it up, but I think we can all be fairly sure the same thing would happen on most "libbie" sites.


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1414201 - 03/27/03 10:28 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

We could always try a little "experiment" and find out...


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414205 - 03/27/03 10:30 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Do you honestly think we need to? Neither side is good at airing opposing views.

If you feel the need, go ahead and give it a try. I figure you're man enough to give a honest report.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414215 - 03/27/03 10:34 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Post some conservative propaganda on democratic underground and you'll be flamed as a "freeper" (from free republic) and your story will get pulled and you'll get banned. I've seen it happen. The dem sites are a tad bit more tolerant of differing views, but not of freepers. For uncensored talk you need to stay here at the shroomery or hardcoretalk or usenet.


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1414216 - 03/27/03 10:34 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Okay...deal. I'll start looking for the appropriate "libby" site..you just need to provide me with the material to post. How's that for an offer?


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    #1414229 - 03/27/03 10:41 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

This one looks like a good candidate... http://www.democraticunderground.com/


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    #1414231 - 03/27/03 10:42 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Best libby site for this experiment is democratic underground.


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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414447 - 03/27/03 12:27 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Well..... crap. After a bit (very little bit) of thought, I was thinking of the "fool to be a human sheild" piece. I figured I'd go check out the site you'd suggested (You Bastard!.... MY EYES!!!!! OH THE HORROR I HAVE SEEN), and amazingly enough, it was already there and has been for several days.

So, being a curious type of guy, off I went to freerepublic. Lo and behold, after a few minutes (very few) of looking, I saw no posts that leaned left.

Now, I didn't spend much time on either site. I will say though that in their favor, Dem Under had at least that one article.

So I feel no need to procede with the test.


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    #1414453 - 03/27/03 12:32 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

See if you can guess which site I found this pic on.

And no.... I don't think it's funny! No... really I don't! How can you doubt me? Hey! I'm serious this time hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahha.

Sorry.  :blush:




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Re: Iraq War Quiz [Re: Rono]
    #1414461 - 03/27/03 12:36 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Damn It!! I said it's not funny!!!!























Where do you think that Canadian found that sheep? Maybe they stole it!

:wink:


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