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Killjoy
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Shit or 50/50 for casings?
#1392346 - 03/19/03 03:52 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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Shit & Straw/Hay
OR
50 Verm, 25 peat, 25 coco coir, crushed oyster shells to neutralize/semi-buffer
for casing layers?
I just got a PC and can make the last one more easily, but it wouldn't be all that much trouble to do the first...
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thrice
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1392361 - 03/19/03 03:56 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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Wouldn't you want to spawn the shit/straw and then case with a 50/50?
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1392370 - 03/19/03 03:59 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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You'd want to use the shit/hay as a substrate (you'd spawn it) and then you would case it with 50/50, etc. It's not a good idea to use shit as a casing layer
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lol
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#1392532 - 03/19/03 04:52 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: poke smot!]
#1392582 - 03/19/03 05:05 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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My mom cant stand the smell of pc'ed compost. I like it its an earthy smell but it dont last too long after your done and it usually stay in or near my kitchen it dont fill my house with the smell but like I said I like it its earthy smelling The best casing 60/40 coco coir verm. peat sucks it has nutrients and contams so much esier and if you dont have coco go with straight verm.
Edited by fee (03/19/03 05:08 PM)
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george castanza
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: fee]
#1392742 - 03/19/03 05:50 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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bake that shit! love that fresh country air!!
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Killjoy
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: fee]
#1393092 - 03/19/03 07:46 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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So lemme get this straight. I do rye jars, colonized with chunks of my now fruiting PF cakes, use that rye to colonize shit/straw/shit+straw sterilized in a bag, then use 60/40 coir+verm to case.
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george castanza
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1393246 - 03/19/03 08:32 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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spawn with fresh cakes and use wbs
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Killjoy
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What kind of wild bird seed, and for what? As the substrate in the cake? Or colonize a bag of that later with another cake. And what should that cake be, rye or PF???
aargh, so much to consider when willing to do anything for quality.
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george castanza
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1393345 - 03/19/03 09:14 PM (21 years, 15 days ago) |
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yes there is a lot to consider. kramer uses mourning song deluxe wild bird food for cakes he mixes wbs/verm 2/1 and pc's at 15 psi for 1 hr.
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1393495 - 03/19/03 10:49 PM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
So lemme get this straight. I do rye jars, colonized with chunks of my now fruiting PF cakes, use that rye to colonize shit/straw/shit+straw sterilized in a bag, then use 60/40 coir+verm to case.
Close You would pasturize the poo and straw. Don't sterilize it.
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Killjoy
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with the wbs/verm, how much water do you put in the jars? Kuz I just did my first 4 rye jars, and I think I totally used the wrong quantities
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george castanza
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1395039 - 03/20/03 09:33 AM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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kramer mixes 12cups wbs 7 cups super hot tap water let soak for an hour or 3 then mix in 6 cups fine verm(all kramer could find this winter). mix real good then lightly fill jars. the verm really fluffs up the bird seed you might wanna add 1/2 -1 cup brf and 5-10 table spoons flax seed (HMF) to speed colonazation.
this is enough substrate to do 32 1/2 pint cakes if your using a dry verm layer
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george castanza
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Re: Shit or 50/50 for casings? [Re: Killjoy]
#1395040 - 03/20/03 09:33 AM (21 years, 14 days ago) |
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kramer mixes 12cups wbs 7 cups super hot tap water let soak for an hour or 3 then mix in 6 cups fine verm(all kramer could find this winter). mix real good then lightly fill jars. the verm really fluffs up the bird seed you might wanna add 1/2 -1 cup brf and 5-10 table spoons flax seed (HMF) to speed colonazation.
this is enough substrate to do 32 1/2 pint cakes if your using a dry verm layer at least thats what kramer says
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