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I took a huge like of K.

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deranger said:

On the come down, it was as though I could hear the conversations from 3 different people.  I've heard voices before, but it was more like listening to a TV from another room, more scattered.  This time, the voices were having conversations between themselves and I was wondering... "what is this, how is this in my head?  only I'm supposed to be in my head!?"  The voices were clear as day, there was a clear sound, just as if someone were talking to me in real life.

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Then my thoughts started changing without my will.  It was as though there were other thinking minds in my mind, but I thought them as well.  I thought to myself "why am I thinking this, and why do I have no control over these thoughts?"

Now that the trip is over the voices have ceased.

But I'm wondering.  Is this schizophrenia?  Or schizo-effective?  I'm diagnosed effective but curious if one day these voices could show themselves in my day to day life if I don't keep good care of my body and mind.

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figmentfragment said:

deranger said:

On the come down, it was as though I could hear the conversations from 3 different people.  I've heard voices before, but it was more like listening to a TV from another room, more scattered.  This time, the voices were having conversations between themselves and I was wondering... "what is this, how is this in my head?  only I'm supposed to be in my head!?"  The voices were clear as day, there was a clear sound, just as if someone were talking to me in real life.

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I am curious to know, how you ascertained that the voices were inside your head and not external?

Did you check for a source of the sound, or did you "just know?"

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Then my thoughts started changing without my will.  It was as though there were other thinking minds in my mind, but I thought them as well.  I thought to myself "why am I thinking this, and why do I have no control over these thoughts?"

Now that the trip is over the voices have ceased.

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If the voices ceased when the trip ended, there is a good chance that you have nothing to worry about.

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yes, though im not really worrying... apologies, should have made myself more clear.  at the time when the voices were occurring, there was a bit of worry.  but fascinating at the same time. 

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Auditory hallucinations are just another sense hallucination, like visuals. There is no reason I can think of why it is overtly unusual to experience them on drugs.

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i have had many auditory hallucinations but none compare to what happened last night.  it was as if i was sharing my mind with other thinking minds.  like there were 3 other people inside of me.  what to make of that i have no idea.  just taking it as it was

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If you take any drug that has psychoactive ability, you run the risk of drug induced psychosis. It is said that the severity of the psychosis depends not only on how much of the drug you take, but how long you allow the psychosis to develop for.

Schizophrenia has been known to be induced by certain drugs...Or I should say, those already susceptible to Schizophrenia may be triggered by certain drugs. It may be hard to tell the difference...

I have experience with this myself, but in my case, the hallucinations continued  for some months after...

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a cousin of my mother is schizophrenic.  though i have experienced drug induced psychosis for prolonged periods of time, so maybe i am still mildly psychotic and that is what caused the experience.  or maybe a bit of both?

deranger said:

Last night I tripped on AMT, San Pedro, Ketamine and Pot.

Near the end, at around 3AM, I took a huge line of K. 

My imagination came to life, geometrical patterns were forming like I've never seen them before, and it was as though whatever I thought formed in my imagination.  But the imaginings were very colorful, extremely vivid closed eye visuals.

On the come down, it was as though I could hear the conversations from 3 different people.  I've heard voices before, but it was more like listening to a TV from another room, more scattered.  This time, the voices were having conversations between themselves and I was wondering... "what is this, how is this in my head?  only I'm supposed to be in my head!?"  The voices were clear as day, there was a clear sound, just as if someone were talking to me in real life.

Then my thoughts started changing without my will.  It was as though there were other thinking minds in my mind, but I thought them as well.  I thought to myself "why am I thinking this, and why do I have no control over these thoughts?"

Now that the trip is over the voices have ceased.

But I'm wondering.  Is this schizophrenia?  Or schizo-effective?  I'm diagnosed effective but curious if one day these voices could show themselves in my day to day life if I don't keep good care of my body and mind.

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That's quite interesting. Ever wonder how you can hold conversations with others in dreams?  The mind/brain is vast beyond imaginings and when you start messing with the chemical messengers anything may happen.  You're quite the psychonaut. Good on ya,

As to if you could blow yer mind I'm sure that's happened to plenty.  If you're lucky when it happens there will be a culture that supports your experience. Most likely not however and that could be pretty hellish.

deranger said:

But I'm wondering.  Is this schizophrenia?  Or schizo-effective?  I'm diagnosed effective but curious if one day these voices could show themselves in my day to day life if I don't keep good care of my body and mind.

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I'm surprised you wouldn't expect such phenomena with that combination. I wouldn't say schizophrenic... I experience similar conversations as I am falling asleep and waking up, especially when slipping into the altered states which lead to out-of-body experiences. I see it as the veil between the unconscious and conscious thinning. If it starts to become prevalent when sober you may want to check out Jung's work on "confrontation with the unconscious."

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As to if you could blow yer mind I'm sure that's happened to plenty.  If you're lucky when it happens there will be a culture that supports your experience. Most likely not however and that could be pretty hellish.

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that is for sure... gotta slow down

c0sm0nautt said:

I experience similar conversations as I am falling asleep and waking up

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