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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Adamist]
    #886464 - 09/16/02 07:45 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

A perfect belief can neither be proven nor disproven.
It makes a mockery of reason by putting irrationality atop a pedestal.

Just another reason why I'm anti-belief.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #886614 - 09/16/02 08:44 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Trippers being branded insane for non-stop talk about aliens and related bullshit

This is what happens to many people when they trip. Do you want people to lie about it doesn't correspond to your belief system?


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Xlea321]
    #886697 - 09/16/02 09:14 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Not one person I've ever met in the real world has EVER seen aliens while tripping (at least 100 people). Then around early 2000 here on the Shroomery, the alien BS starts flooding in and damn near EVERYBODY has an alien experience. Methinks the rave culture had something to do with that (hit the local headshop for evidence).

Of course, I'm just an asshole trying to plug his own brand of triperience.
Actually... no, I'm not. I'm not selling anything. I don't even own a soapbox. I'm just the village not-idiot that runs around wasting his time dispelling notions of a fantastical reality.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #886703 - 09/16/02 09:17 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Methinks time spent living a fantastical reality is better spent


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Shroomism]
    #886713 - 09/16/02 09:23 PM (19 years, 5 days ago)

I hope that's not because you're stuck in a wheelchair.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887001 - 09/17/02 02:07 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

I definitely fit into your insane category. But i consider my self to be saner than the average person. Even if my idea of reality is completely up the shit. I believe that  simply contemplating beyond the safety of the norm,  is a mental exercise of great value even of it's self.


My brain hurts.  :crazy: 


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887184 - 09/17/02 04:10 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Well, I got the alienator 2000. It's got high density tinfoil, 2001 channels, AND it's got little flashy lights too:)


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: jayson]
    #887201 - 09/17/02 04:20 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Very well said. It is very important to be extremely open minded. You should have your beliefs, but exersise your right to contemplate far-fetched ideas, because there is so much we dont know, any idea could have some sort of value.
What do you think someone would think about a human flying back in the middle ages?? Probably the same as you think about the aliens. We have airplanes now, and we can fly. I'f someone would have said that a few hundred years ago, they would be burnt at the cross. You see what I mean?? You should never be 100% sure of reality, and what exists in it, because even in 10000 years we will be learning new things. And come on, it's just ignorance to say we are the only life forms here on earth, and out of billions and billion of planets, we are the only intellegent life. I dont know about the abduction shit, but I do beleive that there are alien somewhere.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887202 - 09/17/02 04:20 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Non stop talk about aliens is only beneficial in the sense that it offers a model for a mutation in human evolution....first people are captured by the desire to not become a victim and in a sense they seek an answer that will enable them to truly understand their advanced captors...however if the reader thinks even more critically....he will remember that he himself has stood before advanced intelligence so remarkably surpassing his own that at first there was a remarkable communication barrier....yes all of us were lacking as children...were we not...and any adult might have been an advanced intelligence...
So the next step is imitatation....as animals we imitate to understand and learn...thats how kids learn to talk...so the abductee goes from initial contact to the second level of imitating the behavior of the alien...and thats how you get extraordinary mutations like Shroomie....
On a deeper level...the first time anyone trips..this little fungus that breathes oxygen and expels carbon dioxide is bound to kick someones ass the first time...if it is a decent dosage...and from there one can start off percieving oneself as a victim but in fact being in the presence of an advanced intelligence and amazing opportunity to witness a point of view outside one's self.
But what I think is so beautiful is that ...if we were to mimick the behavior of the fungi ...we would inevitably resort to parasitizing the sytem...which I think is a more proactive solution than anarchy..because anarchy wants the complete collapse of the system..whereas those modeling their behavior after the fungi think more in terms of symbiosis...we want consumerism to survive because you can grow a lot of mushrooms inside an empty 2 liter bottle....so I say keep buying pepsi and cling to your private property and whatever...because reality is simply a substrate to me......In this symbiotic fashion we can see that both alien abduction and anyones first serious trip on shrooms are as healthy and natural as standing as an infant , in front of one's parent.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Debrerebus]
    #887209 - 09/17/02 04:28 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

When I get back from the hospital, I will respond...


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887214 - 09/17/02 04:34 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Not one person I've ever met in the real world has EVER seen aliens while tripping (at least 100 people). Then around early 2000 here on the Shroomery, the alien BS starts flooding in and damn near EVERYBODY has an alien experience. Methinks the rave culture had something to do with that (hit the local headshop for evidence).

Then we need to meet.  I had my first experience in the 60's and it had nothing to do with drugs or culture of any kind.  So do I think aliens exist?  Yes, but that takes a little bit of explaining.  The experiences are so intimate I do not share them publicly but I will, hopefully, in time, explain what I think they are and why I think it.  If I had your life I wouldn't' think they exist either.  But if you had mine (and I wouldn't wish that on anyone) you'd think differently. :smile:

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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Unity333]
    #887217 - 09/17/02 04:35 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Be well.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: ]
    #887223 - 09/17/02 04:38 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

In reply to:

But if you had mine (and I wouldn't wish that on anyone)


come on mr_mushrooms... your life cant be that bad... and if having your life and the experiences you had (no matter how painful they were) makes people be as open minded, happy and easy going as you are then i think it would be worth it...


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: In(di)go]
    #887242 - 09/17/02 05:01 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

LOL!

My life hasn't been all bad.  I was referring to the weirdness of it.  Nobody should have to be probed if they don't wanna be! :wink:

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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: ]
    #887258 - 09/17/02 05:14 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

haaaahahahaha... well you've got a point  :grin:


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: jayson]
    #887330 - 09/17/02 06:33 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

But i consider my self to be saner than the average person.

Therein lies the great illusion. Almost everyone considers themselves that, along with:

"I am more intelligent than the average person."

"I am more beautiful/handsome than the average person."

"I am more open-minded than the average person."

"I am more spiritual/loving than the average person."

...and so on. I am not stating this about you specifically, just that this is very common, almost universal in fact, from the ego's perspective.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: ]
    #887347 - 09/17/02 06:43 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Terence McKenna redefines aliens and you might want to que up that name in a file sharing program...its a trip to listen to him.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: REPLICON_TRON]
    #887364 - 09/17/02 06:54 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

I listen to him all the time. I have his MPEG's on my desktop.

Keeps me balanced if you know what I mean.

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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: REPLICON_TRON]
    #887377 - 09/17/02 06:59 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Oh, and continue your novel here. It is appropriate in here.


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Re: Umm schizophrenic forum or what? [Re: Sclorch]
    #887418 - 09/17/02 07:21 AM (19 years, 5 days ago)

Not one person I've ever met in the real world has EVER seen aliens while tripping (at least 100 people).

Strange, certainly Maria Sabina refers to her experiences of "enormous reptiles the like of which I have never seen on earth" in the early twentieth century, Mckenna has mentioned it and Rick Strassmans work on DMT show alien contact to be common.

Perhaps no-one tells you about their experiences because they know what your reaction would be? Or perhaps they consider tripping to be going to the local macdonalds and looking at yourself in the back of a spoon. Whatever. There is no doubt that alien contact on tryptamines is a common and extensively referenced experience.


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