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The western perspective is conflict.
The eastern perspective is complement.

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The most bloody civil war in history occurred in what country? (no fair Googling )

OrgoneConclusion said:

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The western perspective is conflict.
The eastern perspective is complement.

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The most bloody civil war in history occurred in what country? (no fair Googling )

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what time is it right tao?

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amuzakat said:

The Eastern-Western division is another construct of duality.

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  He asserted that events difficult to explain, such as that operation, were really very simple.
They were made difficult by our insistence upon thinking. If we did not think, everything fit into
place.
"That is truly absurd, don Juan," I said and really meant it.
    I reminded him that he demanded serious thinking of all his apprentices, and even criticized
his own teacher for not being a good thinker.
  "Of course I insist that everyone around me think clearly," he said. "And I explain, to anyone
who wants to listen, that the only way to think clearly is to not think at all. I was convinced you
understood this sorcerers' contradiction."

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    Since they could not explain it, for there is no rational way to understand existence, seers realized that their knowledge
is composed of contradictory propositions.
"Why did they develop a system of contradictions?" I asked.
"They didn't develop anything," he said. "They found unquestionable truths by means of their
seeing. Those truths are arranged in terms of supposedly blatant contradictions, that's all.
  "For example, seers have to be methodical, rational beings, paragons of sobriety, and at the
same time they must shy away from all of those qualities in order to be completely free and open
to the wonders and mysteries of existence."
    His example left me baffled, but not to the extreme. I understood what he meant. He himself
had sponsored my rationality only to crush it and demand a total absence of it. I told him how I
understood his point.
"Only a feeling of supreme sobriety can bridge the contradictions," he said.
"Could you say, don Juan, that art is that bridge?"
"You may call the bridge between contradictions anything you want - art, affection, sobriety,
love, or even kindness."

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He emphasized that intent is not something one might use or
command or move in any way - nevertheless, one could use it, command it, or move it as one
desires. This contradiction, he said, is the essence of sorcery.

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the bizzle said:

amuzakat said:

The Eastern-Western division is another construct of duality.

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I think duality is actually less concerned with opposites

and more related to inherent contradictions in everything




"it is, but it isn't"


or for example,  lsd is spiritless, and yet it is the spirit of that which has no spirit

everything and nothing... are opposites, but they aren't

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  He asserted that events difficult to explain, such as that operation, were really very simple.
They were made difficult by our insistence upon thinking. If we did not think, everything fit into
place.
"That is truly absurd, don Juan," I said and really meant it.
    I reminded him that he demanded serious thinking of all his apprentices, and even criticized
his own teacher for not being a good thinker.
  "Of course I insist that everyone around me think clearly," he said. "And I explain, to anyone
who wants to listen, that the only way to think clearly is to not think at all. I was convinced you
understood this sorcerers' contradiction."

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"it is, but it isn't"

is the essence of duality, imo. It can't be explained...
"but it can", I suppose might be the follow up to that

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    Since they could not explain it, for there is no rational way to understand existence, seers realized that their knowledge
is composed of contradictory propositions.
"Why did they develop a system of contradictions?" I asked.
"They didn't develop anything," he said. "They found unquestionable truths by means of their
seeing. Those truths are arranged in terms of supposedly blatant contradictions, that's all.
  "For example, seers have to be methodical, rational beings, paragons of sobriety, and at the
same time they must shy away from all of those qualities in order to be completely free and open
to the wonders and mysteries of existence."
    His example left me baffled, but not to the extreme. I understood what he meant. He himself
had sponsored my rationality only to crush it and demand a total absence of it. I told him how I
understood his point.
"Only a feeling of supreme sobriety can bridge the contradictions," he said.
"Could you say, don Juan, that art is that bridge?"
"You may call the bridge between contradictions anything you want - art, affection, sobriety,
love, or even kindness."

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He emphasized that intent is not something one might use or
command or move in any way - nevertheless, one could use it, command it, or move it as one
desires. This contradiction, he said, is the essence of sorcery.

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"it's very difficult and yet it's the simplest thing in the world."





I could have kept this post a lot more concise and simple...  "it is, but it isn't", really says it all for me

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Cop out bull shit man.

You've just accepted something "just because". Where is your reasoning for this? LSD has no spirit. It's just parts composed of parts working together to form bigger parts to form bigger parts to form bigger parts.

Everything is not nothing, and nothing is not everything. You are inherently contradicting yourself just to sound thought provoking to people who don't think actually about things, but rather just look to others for answers. You don't know what it actually means because what you said doesn't mean anything. It's just your obscure ponderings you've come to accept to provide comfort for yourself so you can feel secure.

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Shroomzoom622 said:

Everything is not nothing, and nothing is not everything..

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