Prisoner#1 said:

I get punched by girls... a lot

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That sucks man.  You should start punching girls in the face...with tasty vegetarian jizz! 

SillyBilly said:

Why can't people just either eat meat or not without pushing it on other people?

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People will always try to convince other people of their views because they believe their views are right, and they believe it is better for the world if others adopt their views. 

IDK.  A lot of vegies feel like beings are tortured for the sake of pleasure for other beings.  A lot of meat eaters feel like vegies are misguided.  Or they take things personally. 

SillyBilly said:

I just became a veg again but I try hard not to mention it unless I have no idea if there is something I can eat on a menu.

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Word dude.  This thread is strictly for the lolz.  But I'm happy for you.

Cannashroom said:

Lets take a blast from the past, and see what the so called "natural humans" who lived in the wild revered and liked to show how it helped their survival:




Lots of big game...

Humans are meat eaters.  Humans have spent a fair portion of their history in ice age, when the main source of calories for any norther populations were animal fats.

Fruits and veggies are obviously needed as well, but meat is good for you.

The problem is people eat over cooked factory-farmed crap.

If you eat good meat, preferably raw, or very rare it is amazing.

Humans painted pictured of big game for a reason, its what they survived on, it is what they thrived on.

Almost every culture in the world has revered meat as a food source.

Last point, even without an ice age, to survive at a norther latitude people needed to have animals and hunt, because you can't live off vegetables year round anywhere too far from the equator.  Don't fool your self thinking you are eating "naturally" by eating only veggies. Because in the real world you need animals in case your harvest is bust you can cure up a pig for the winter.  In the "natural" world you don't have the supermarket to go stock up on bananas.

Historically, Tibetan Buddhists are not vegetarian because to live in Tibet in the winter you must eat meat.

Food for thought...

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Well I stock up at the farmers markets usually, as well as grow a lot of my own food.  I am going to be getting chickens in the future and eat there eggs.  If surviving means hunting, farming, or fishing for meat I will totally do that.  I loved going fishing a couple weeks ago and eating the meat that I caught and cut up with my own hands.

Humans have weak stomachs now, they don't want to kill the animals they eat themselves.  It can be an ugly process, and we want it out of our site.

I do take advantage of the healthy foods from all over the world that I have access to, including bananas.  If I didn't live in America and had to eat meat out of necessity I totally would.

But as it stands, I can add years on to my life because I was born in America and I have the option not to support the factory farming industry.

Beyond just supporting the meat industry though, it is the entire food industry that I personally believe needs an overhaul.  By boycotting meat though I multiply the amount of food I am boycotting.  Animals have to be fed to, and over their lifetimes they consume a lot more then the calories we get from eating them.  If I am not eating meat then I am allowing those calories to be used for something else, or at least I am letting the industry know that I don't need those calories.

We live in a different world now then we did before.  I would love it if we could all hunt for our food.  Unfortunately we have billions and billions of people now (I think overpopulation is a huge problem).  If we don't watch out we will have food shortages, water shortages, oil shortages, and energy shortages.  (I forgot to mention that more water is used up to produce meat as well).  In America, the average meat eater eats about 99 animals a year.  As more countries become wealthy and start to demand the same life style that we have that would mean more and more people would be eating 99 animals a year. 

My long term life plan is to move to Canada and live on a lake abundant with fish.  I will farm and have a green house, as well as fish and hunt.

But to each his own.

Nymphaea said:

ut as it stands, I can add years on to my life because I was born in America and I have the option not to support the factory farming industry.

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Animals have to be fed to, and over their lifetimes they consume a lot more then the calories we get from eating them.

If we don't watch out we will have food shortages, water shortages, oil shortages, and energy shortages.  (I forgot to mention that more water is used up to produce meat as well).

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In America, the average meat eater eats about 99 animals a year.

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blewmeanie said:

The spear was invented something like 40,000 years ago, but human beings have been around for at least 200 - 400 thousand years.

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AlteredAgain said:

Humans have adopted omnivorous and carnivorous eating practices, but our anatomy and physiology have not changed. We remain biologically a species of fruit eaters.

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AlteredAgain said:

Humans have adopted omnivorous and carnivorous eating practices, but our anatomy and physiology have not changed. We remain biologically a species of fruit eaters.

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In a 1979 preliminary microwear study of Australopithecus fossil teeth, anthropologist Alan Walker theorized that robust australopiths were largely frugivorous.[10]  However, newer methods of studying fossils have suggested the possibility that Australopithecus was omnivorous. In 1992, trace element studies of the strontium/calcium ratios in robust australopith fossils suggested the possibility of animal consumption, as they did in 1994 using stable carbon isotopic analysis.[11]  Australopithecus mainly ate fruit, vegetables, and tubers.

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Prisoner#1 said:

blewmeanie said:

The spear was invented something like 40,000 years ago, but human beings have been around for at least 200 - 400 thousand years.

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hahaha... the first stone tools are about 2.5million years old, think
Australopithecus, the first knapped stone tools are around 40k years old,
the spear came along well before knapping

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