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"Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song
    #1293151 - 02/09/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

"I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering. Fundamental differing.
Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
We cannot see to reach an end crippling our communication.

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.

There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication.

Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any
Sense of compassion
Between supposed lovers/brothers"

What do you guys think this song means?
To me, he's talking about the relationship between people who share love/friendships. And the morale of it is to continue to build and evolve those relationships, or the cold silence will begin to deteriorate it. You have to bring back those pieces of the relationship that you've lost and keep them to be able to grow further. He also talks about second guessing.. as I said before, doubting someone is what probably led to lying...me and Adamist agreed to this in a post somewhere..and lying is definitly the biggest burden on communication.




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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1293190 - 02/09/03 11:13 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I think of it the same way you do. It really isn't a 'deep' song imo.  :tongue:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1293201 - 02/09/03 11:19 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

^^Exactly^^ The meaning of this song is very clear . . . that said, I love it just as much as any Tool song whose meaning is buried . . . if it's Tool, I love it.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1294042 - 02/09/03 05:51 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

the whole album is supposed to be an exploration of the relations between people. so yeah, i think schism is just about the break between two people, that occasional deep setted anger and cold shoulder that comes up.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: minusrestraint]
    #1294113 - 02/09/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i love tool's new cd because every time i listen to it there is always the possilbity of coming up with some radical new interpretation to fit my mood.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1294117 - 02/09/03 06:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

what the hell is third eye about?


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: truekimbo2]
    #1294126 - 02/09/03 06:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The mushroom experience.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



Edited by Murex (02/09/03 06:25 PM)


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: truekimbo2]
    #1294327 - 02/09/03 07:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A pleasant faced man steps up to greet you
He smiles and says he's pleased to meet you
Beneath his hat the strangeness lies
Take it off, he's got three eyes
Truth is false and logic lost
Now the fourth dimension is crossed

You have entered the Twilight Zone
Beyond this world strange things are known
Use the key, unlock the door
See what your fate might have in store
Come explore your dreams' creation
Enter this world of imagination

Wake up lost in an empty town
Wondering why no one else is around
Look up to see a giant boy
You've just become his brand new toy
No escape, no place to hide
Here where Time and Space collide

I suggest doing a search, It is a very old "concept", and you may just find some new doors opening for you :smile:
although Murex's oversimplefication may have been right on! :grin: 


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: shaggy101]
    #1294474 - 02/09/03 08:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

That's a Rush song my brother.. the twilight zone... I think he was talking about Tool's Third Eye song.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: Shroomism]
    #1294537 - 02/09/03 08:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I know that! :wink:
But now this post has TWO of my favorite bands in it! :grin: :grin:
Although  it may not of been the best example.. I posted it because it conjures up soom images for explanation.
Ive never been big into typing explanations to other users, prefer giving words(or songs ) of advice and letting them put there own puzzle toghether! :smile:
Good call since I didnt type the title Shroomism!


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: shaggy101]
    #1294733 - 02/09/03 10:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i know the pieces fit. ... ((nothing further to report))


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: shaggy101]
    #1294735 - 02/09/03 10:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i know the pieces fit. ... ((nothing further to report))


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1295355 - 02/10/03 06:08 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Unfortunately, I can not share my love for this song. A radio station I used to listen to played this song to much. By to much I mean once every hour. This in itself was not bad, but the fact that it was the only Tool song they every really played caused me to became irrate. This has caused me to rate this song as my least favorite Tool song. Oh, and I certainly agree that there are much, much better and complex Tool songs.


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Edited by diggitydankman (02/10/03 06:13 AM)


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1297390 - 02/10/03 05:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I agree. The radio could have mixed some H or Eulogy in with it, but NO. ...Fuckers.

:mad:


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What if all the world you think you know,
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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1298320 - 02/11/03 03:17 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I don't care how much a radio plays a song, you're the one who makes the choice to listen to it.
Schism makes me very emotional,
it makes me think of all the bridges I have burned and all the things that I have left unsaid,
the people who I have really cared deeply for,
yet walked away from as if it was effortless.
You can't take things back.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: Murex]
    #1298331 - 02/11/03 03:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Third Eye is a Duet.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #1298358 - 02/11/03 03:38 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Not to mention how good it feels when Adam beings the slow winding solo. *shiver*


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: diggitydankman]
    #1298368 - 02/11/03 03:45 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There's a lot more to this song than its face value.

Keep digging, you'll find it.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1298535 - 02/11/03 05:30 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i read in an interview somewhere that its about the band, the lawsuit that kept them from recording for so long kinda tore em apart. i know the pieces fit cause theyre all together now.
but maynard is real big into disinformation so i may be wrong.


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Re: "Schism" ..my understanding of tool's song [Re: ]
    #1298542 - 02/11/03 05:33 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lol

It means whatever you interpret it to mean. The key is to take what you think it conveys and learn something from it. You can't define a song, or tell someone that they have not looked into it enough.

It's personal, there are times that digging to deep is counter productive..


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