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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: smack]
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smack said:
This thread only says one thing: Time to K-Hole



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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: smack]
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smack said:
This thread only says one thing: Time to K-Hole



almost had the chance! I blew it though, hopefully I'll get another opportunity someday. It seriously sounds like one of the best experiences.

Anyway, how distant can ketamine experiences be from reality? Possible for experiences showing different concepts of physics/movement/senses/etc?

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: golden1]
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golden1 said:
smack said:
This thread only says one thing: Time to K-Hole



almost had the chance! I blew it though, hopefully I'll get another opportunity someday. It seriously sounds like one of the best experiences.

Anyway, how distant can ketamine experiences be from reality? Possible for experiences showing different concepts of physics/movement/senses/etc?



distant from reality?

i'm not going to go into describing ketamine's effects, particularly because i don't want them to be brushed off as just the high from a drug.

but it is very interesting and relevant to interests in "physics/movement/senses" and consciousness, memory, spacial location, etc. I can't say enough about the stuff, it's truly remarkable.  That is of course all depending on how you use it, how you choose your experiences and paths, and what you do with your experiences afterwards.

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: truekimbo2]
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truekimbo2 said:
reality exists independently imo.



That's what I believe too. We can never know for sure if what we see/smell/hear... is what other people see/smell/hear. Each of us could be living in our own independent worlds where people's reactions to our own actions are preprogrammed. That's what I believe even though it sounds unlikely.


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"There can be but little liberty on Earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven."

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: NastyDHL]
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Reading things like that is so funny whe n you're on ketamine :lol:

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Beanhead]
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Beanhead said:
Reading things like that is so funny whe n you're on ketamine :lol:



Have Fun! :awehigh::ranchydance::catfrog:


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"There can be but little liberty on Earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven."

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: potatos]
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How can you percieve nothing? That doesn't make any sense.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Enjoywho]
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There is perception for the minority but reality for the majority as you see it

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: SLUZ]
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Care to elaborate?


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Enjoywho]
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More ketamine

:snort:

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Beanhead]
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I see something to elaborate..

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Angel_Above]
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Angel_Above said:
Such a bad place to put this...




:dumblol:  tru-dat.

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
Care to elaborate?



Me or Sluz?


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"There can be but little liberty on Earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven."

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: potatos]
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She was talking to me but you should elaborate now

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: potatos]
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potatos said:
truekimbo2 said:
reality exists independently imo.



That's what I believe too. We can never know for sure if what we see/smell/hear... is what other people see/smell/hear. Each of us could be living in our own independent worlds where people's reactions to our own actions are preprogrammed. That's what I believe even though it sounds unlikely.




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"There can be but little liberty on Earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven."

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Re: There is no reality, only perception. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
How can you percieve nothing? That doesn't make any sense.



yeah i couldn't figure out how to phrase that, but thats really the crux of why i think independent reality exists.


perception only works if there is something to perceive.


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You can check the last post in my journal for contact info.

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