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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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israel just seized it all without compensation and you people just think that's normal.

Well as a matter of fact it is normal. This is how you became a white American. If your ancestors hadn't taken this land from the folk who where here before them you would possibly still be some really poor person in England or Germany or Ireland. But of course that land was all taken by force too. I hate to keep bringing this up but read some ancient history. Nothing is different now.

If you feel the need to make amends then deed your land and home back to the originals.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Icelander]
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this website has some good info pertaining to what you guys are talking about: http://ifamericansonlyknew.org/


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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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Shut up would you.


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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Joie]
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israel just seized it all without compensation and you people just think that's normal.

Well as a matter of fact it is normal. This is how you became a white American. If your ancestors hadn't taken this land from the folk who where here before them you would possibly still be some really poor person in England or Germany or Ireland. But of course that land was all taken by force too. I hate to keep bringing this up but read some ancient history. Nothing is different now.

If you feel the need to make amends then deed your land and home back to the originals.



i feel the need to make amends by politically being on the side of the oppressed, english is not my primary language. but what are deeds? you mean selling the land i am on to another white man so he can exploit it ? selling it to the native american wouldn't do much either, he would just be a player in an unfair capitalist system. i am not being racist, just saying if he doesn't have knowledge of economics he will get screwed over by bigger player quite fast.

also i don't feel wrong for what my ancestors did, i didn't do it. i saw a pretty much racist documentary about racism and even though it was horribly biased he had a point, white people who came after secession didn't own slave at all yet they are publically assumed to be. i may feel wrong for still profiting from such a system but there are some who profit from it much more and it is their profits i should attack.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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what the fuck are you talking about, i am talking about cartoons who are racist toward arabs. you seem to think that cutting one's hand off is a pretty common thing in their culture, it does happen sometime but only after 4-5 time being cut.





Oh boy. Alladin is racist because the plot (about good abstract arabic guys fighting bad abstract arabic guys) includes an attempt to cut Princess hand for stealing. I watched it as a kid and it's a kind cartoon that if anything left me fascinated with Arabic culture. If you can equate this cartoon with murderous fantasy of children stabbing Bush to death, you're not really lucid and can't keep a minimum regard for reality in your propaganda.

P.S. So that you know: cutting hands for stealing is part of Sharia and demanded by Quaran 5:38

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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communeart said:
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israel just seized it all without compensation and you people just think that's normal.

Well as a matter of fact it is normal. This is how you became a white American. If your ancestors hadn't taken this land from the folk who where here before them you would possibly still be some really poor person in England or Germany or Ireland. But of course that land was all taken by force too. I hate to keep bringing this up but read some ancient history. Nothing is different now.

If you feel the need to make amends then deed your land and home back to the originals.



i feel the need to make amends by politically being on the side of the oppressed, english is not my primary language. but what are deeds? you mean selling the land i am on to another white man so he can exploit it ? selling it to the native american wouldn't do much either, he would just be a player in an unfair capitalist system. i am not being racist, just saying if he doesn't have knowledge of economics he will get screwed over by bigger player quite fast.

also i don't feel wrong for what my ancestors did, i didn't do it. i saw a pretty much racist documentary about racism and even though it was horribly biased he had a point, white people who came after secession didn't own slave at all yet they are publically assumed to be. i may feel wrong for still profiting from such a system but there are some who profit from it much more and it is their profits i should attack.




Great excuses for not doing the "right thing" Give them back "their land" and then educate them on what to do with it. I'm sure you really want to deep down.

I'm not sure you really know who the oppressed are. I am however sure  you think you know.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Icelander]
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Oh boy. Alladin is racist because the plot (about good abstract arabic guys fighting bad abstract arabic guys) includes an attempt to cut Princess hand for stealing. I watched it as a kid and it's a kind cartoon that if anything left me fascinated with Arabic culture. If you can equate this cartoon with murderous fantasy of children stabbing Bush to death, you're not really lucid and can't keep a minimum regard for reality in your propaganda.

P.S. So that you know: cutting hands for stealing is part of Sharia and demanded by Quaran 5:38



just like stoning in judaism or christianity. it only happens after 4-5 times you steal or so, it is barbaric. yes aladdin probably left you fascinated with arabic culture, it doesn't mean that the beginning wasn't pretty violent especially for kids and yet again, the whole society in aladdin is full of bearded dangerous people with a few nice characters.
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Great excuses for not doing the "right thing" Give them back "their land" and then educate them on what to do with it. I'm sure you really want to deep down.

I'm not sure you really know who the oppressed are. I am however sure  you think you know.



it's no fucking excuse, how am i supposed to give them back their land? i don't own any land. i don't want to deport all whites from america either . a fair system would be good enough to give everyone the ability to work and be fairly paid for it.

sure i could educate them to use it, but why would i want a certain part of their elites to be just as unfairly as the capitalists we have oppressing them. in canada we have reparations or we pay for lands. what happens is that some of them use it to start businesses who eventually are eaten by larger corporations and others spend it on a house a car or so. there is still a good % of that money from the government or a certain corporation interested in exploiting a ressources which is given back to other corporations. when they buy those lands ,their whole way of life is destroyed. sure that's evolution and crap, but it still sucks to be out of your land only for money. why should they sell small parts of land anyway,the whole thing was theirs.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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If the whole thing was theirs then get thee gone. You can do your part to make it right. If others follow your example then they might just get it all back.:thumbup: Or admit that you take part in this just like the rest of humanity.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Icelander]
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f the whole thing was theirs then get thee gone. You can do your part to make it right. If others follow your example then they might just get it all back. Or admit that you take part in this just like the rest of humanity.



it will never be theirs. do you know how the system works? some rich jerk will own the thing no matter what. and nobody will follow me. even the most radical native americans don't want to deport me,if they are really crazy they might want to deport you :smile:. the most racist of them are pissed off at white drug dealers in their community but in that sense some of them can be considered tools in the drug war since alcohol is readily sold and i have no doubt that mushrooms and weed would have caused their community much less problems especially if they kept their tradition and rituals which would have helped prevent most of the harm caused by drugs. ( i could understand them being pissed at other types of drug dealers , but yet again everyone has the right to put whatever he wants in his body, they just have the feeling that their poverty and boredom is exploited in that way and would rather give a fellow native american a job being a provider)

seriously, when we came here, we told them we were just a few guys fleeing an oppressive government, and they said great, don't bring too many people here and you can stay as long as you conquer that other tribe's territory, we hate them so much. we came back with shitloads of boats filled with settlers (and settlers are often military minded people who reproduce themselves like rats), and we waged war on most of the tribes, dominated and used some, took alot of them as slaves and when the whole continent was ours we locked them in reserves and gave them no voting rights. some attempts to socialize them into our culture by an arrogant and racist left back then ended in child abuse by priests (at least in canada)

and on top of that, yes i would go back to europe. the old continent and it's culture calls me, but i will ask all natives that i see if he wants me to go back to europe and explain that white people shouldn't be in america. the worst i expect to hear is yeah all whites should go back to europe but you can stay since you're cool enough to say that.

hell in the worst case scenario that a native american hitler rules american and starts deporting white people, they might give me an honorary native status.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan thus i'll be able to stay for a few years and basicly be a tourist or a dhimmi.

oh and we were talking about israeli settlers? since when is israel paying back for the land which they stole? did you know they tax a certain amount of palestinians and don't receive the service according to those taxes? sure they might be aggresively buying lands that palestinians don't want to sell, but they still don't care about the one they currently have. virtually most of the land in israel is owned by the government too. while i think pretty much only some natural preservation spaces is owned by the government in north america. i am not sure of this though.

Edited by communeart (07/05/10 01:56 AM)

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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communeart said:i am not sure of this though.



You're on the internet.  Best practise is to look shit up first.


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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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. even the most radical native americans don't want to deport me,i

My god man do you make everything up out of whole cloth?  I know this isn't true. I know of native americans in my town here that want to see all white men dead and I don't really blame them.


As far as I know and I'm no expert but Israel won the war and the land they took. They were attacked remember.

You seem to have almost no understanding of basic human nature and motivations. Good thing you have a culture that pampers to support you.:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Icelander]
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. even the most radical native americans don't want to deport me,i

My god man do you make everything up out of whole cloth?  I know this isn't true. I know of native americans in my town here that want to see all white men dead and I don't really blame them.


As far as I know and I'm no expert but Israel won the war and the land they took. They were attacked remember.

You seem to have almost no understanding of basic human nature and motivations. Good thing you have a culture that pampers to support you



okay maybe some of them do, but much less than the opposite of whites who want all native american or blacks to die.

hell i could be a part of some equivalent of the Jewish Sonderkommandos. though they might kill me afterward. so far the most radical i've seen wanted all control on north america to the native americans, no hint of deportation etc. just second-class citizenship.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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okay maybe some of them do, but much less than the opposite of whites who want all native american or blacks to die.


You have noting to base the above speculation on but your opinion. Unless you can provide some stats for us. Like I said you tend to make things up as you go along.

You really throw any case you might actually have into a bad light with your baseless assertions.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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it doesn't mean that the beginning wasn't pretty violent especially for kids



Yeah nevermind that there is no actual violence in that scene. Still pretty violent. If only they they show actual grotesque racist violence and openly encourage kids to emulate...then you might take a second look. :thumbup:


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the whole society in aladdin is full of bearded dangerous people with a few nice characters.





:huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
okay maybe some of them do, but much less than the opposite of whites who want all native american or blacks to die.


You have noting to base the above speculation on but your opinion. Unless you can provide some stats for us. Like I said you tend to make things up as you go along.



if you base it on actual numbers, the percentage of injuns that want to
give whitey the boot is far higher than that of whites wanting to get
rid of other ethnic groups...

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah nevermind that there is no actual violence in that scene. Still pretty violent. If only they they show actual grotesque racist violence and openly encourage kids to emulate...then you might take a second look.



show me really violent scene shown to kids on palestinian tv then, back up your assertions, and if someone show around a knife in a threatening manner it is fucking violent. she also barely get away from the knife, he wanted to cut her hand but he missed her. that's violent as hell. also how are they openly encouraging kids to emulate violence on their cartoons? so far the kid killing george bush video is the only thing i find very digusting. some of what you call anti-semitic stereotypes are actually based on some reality.

on a side-note, what the fuck are they doing talking to kids about politics like that. kids watch news with their parents though, so palestinian or jewish they both shape their vision of the opposite side through biased news.
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there isn't much nice people who don't have beards in aladdin, i think the king is nice, but who else. most of the people whom the king rule over are cruel jackass. beside aladdin,the princess,the king and the genie, (maybe include the monkey) there isn't much positive character.
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if you base it on actual numbers, the percentage of injuns that want to
give whitey the boot is far higher than that of whites wanting to get
rid of other ethnic groups...



can you source it? because all i said is baseless but everything everyone says apparently don't need a source. unlike what some on the extreme-right says, hate crime against white are reported. do you know of any natives organisation which is in favor of deportation or genocide? they have some nationalist organisation, including something akin to a gang or a black panther style stuff called warriors in canada. i guess i could tolerate some white racist who are only proud of their race, but they openly call to segregation or deportation of non-whites often.

can a hate crime be considered a hate crime if a bunch of kids just beat up random people but avoid attacking people of their own race? this is something that more or less happened in my town, i am not sure if the story is true but i think i should know if they are a bunch of genocidal maniacs since shit is pretty fucked up in the bar where we go, often there are trouble between different communities, it is at the border and there are frequent conflicts between french and english, to top it off there is a native american reserve, it's sort of a three way brawl.though it recently calmed itself.

like i said the most extremist position i heard was that native americans should rule the continent, to which i replied that white people are getting fucked over by white leaders anyway and a problem of finding good native leadership may arise if they are pretty much marginalized and do not have experience in leading a government. things would be better for native americans but it wouldn't be that big of a difference. i mean come on, they all know how absurd it is for non-whites to call for genocide, not only they don't have the tools to do it but they complain that genocide happened to them. another racist thing about them i have heard is that once a girl who had a native as a boyfriend was told that she ruined the 'native' vibes that they had. that sound very hippy to me, but oh well.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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show me really violent scene shown to kids on palestinian tv





Are you delirious? Now you gonna deny something even you agreed to several posts above after I posted a video of children show where mickey mouse is being beaten to death by Israeli agents? After you described a cartoon where a child stab Bush to death? How about a rabbit telling children he's going to eat Jews? Or kindergarden children screaming how they will kill Jews? Look it up it's all in the open (here for instance  http://www.youtube.com/user/pmwvideos )


Weird huh? You take completely innocent and kind cartoon and start with some gibberish about how there is not enough nice bearded guys or something equally stupid. Yet when you see openly violent hatemongering racist cartoon/children show you don't really see any "real violence". You should really cut down on all this thug-supportin, it has clearly taken it's toll :stopsign:

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: AlexD]
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i didn't see those openly hate mongering cartoons you f**king asshole. that's why i asked for them. i didn't make an opinion, if you haven't already you should watch this documentary.



thanks for the link anyway.

a rabbit eating jews? how the fuck is that violent.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: communeart]
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No hate mongering in Al Aqsa TV Mickey Mouse spin off, eh?  None?  Nothing?

Even the French banned it from broadcasting. You are something else.  Carry on, you are good for a laugh.

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Re: Israeli Mossad Hit Men Targeted Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan | June 24th, 2010 [Re: despisedicon]
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are you blind? i never said there was none, i wanted to see them. also , why the fuck would there be a palestinian media watch and no jewish media watch. i'm sure there is some equivalent of fox news in israel.

and yes, i do agree that the palestinian media are more racist than the jewish media. but to claim that jewish media are 100% accurate and non racist while palestinian media is 100% inaccurate and racist. is racist in itself.

watch my documentary. cut off your ears and your face, it's barbaric but it's home - not racist at all eh. i was too young to even care about this it's the intro.

*edit: looking through about half of the video from the palestinian any mention of making war on israel is considered calling to genocide, it is a biased piece of shit. there are some videos who are chilling to the bone, but i would say only 5 out of a 100 can be considered outrageously racist.

Edited by communeart (07/06/10 04:18 AM)

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