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Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak
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If that was a real headline, the media talking heads would be having a mockery field day along with their forced laughter and headshakes.

Well, not sure how this is ANY different:CNN news link

Louisiana lawmakers propose prayer to stop oil disaster

(CNN) -- While cleanup crews and technical teams continue efforts to stop crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana lawmakers are proposing a different approach: prayer.

State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God's help dealing with the oil disaster.

"Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail," state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week's unanimous vote for the day of prayer. "It is clearly time for a miracle for us."

The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast "to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood."


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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There are no atheists in foxholes.


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Bull shit. Don't judge others in comparison to yourself. :nono:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms] * 1
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
There are no atheists in foxholes.


I for one will be praying vehemently to the Flying Spaghetti Monster once my demise draws nigh.


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: deCypher] * 1
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I'm going to pray to philosophical evidence. :tongue2:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
There are no atheists in foxholes.


Having come VERY close to death on a few occasions, I could not agree. Even while undergoing through renal failure I could not quite bring myself to pray. More pressing issues were at hand.



~Monk

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: numonkei]
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Yeah, but were you in a foxhole or a hospital?

(Or as Sean Connery calls it: a horshpitel.)


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Sarah Palin sees a witch doctor and somehow many Americans still consider her leader material. :shrug:

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Sarah Palin Linked Her Electoral Success to Prayer of Kenyan Witch Hunter

The pastor who accused a Kenyan woman of causing car accidents through demonic spells "laid his hands" on Palin in prayer.

September 18, 2008

The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witch hunt against a Kenyan woman whom he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.

At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.

In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: "As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he's so bold. And he was praying "Lord make a way, Lord make a way."

"And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm going to do, he doesn't know what my plans are. And he's praying not "Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor," no, he just prayed for it. He said, "Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that's exactly what happened."

She then adds: "So, again, very, very powerful, coming from this church," before the presiding pastor comments on the "prophetic power" of the event.

An African evangelist, Muthee has given guest sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God on at least 10 occasions in his role as the founder of the Word of Faith Church, also known as the Prayer Cave.

Muthee founded the Prayer Cave in 1989 in Kiambu, Kenya, after "God spoke" to him and his late wife, Margaret, and called him to the country, according to the church's Web site.

The pastor speaks of his offensive against a demonic presence in the town in a trailer for the evangelical video "Transformations," made by Sentinel Group, a Christian research and information agency.

"We prayed, we fasted, the Lord showed us a spirit of witchcraft resting over the place," Muthee says.

After the spirit was broken, the crime rate dropped to almost zero and there was "explosive church growth" while almost every bar in the town closed down, the video says.

The full "Transformations" video featuring Muthee's story has recently been removed from YouTube, but the rest of the story is detailed in a 1999 article in the Christian Science Monitor, as well as on numerous evangelical Web sites.

According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a "divination" center called the Emmanuel Clinic.

Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town's ills and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.

Says the Monitor, "Muthee held a crusade that 'brought about 200 people to Christ.'" They set up around-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor, "the demonic influence -- the 'principality' over Kiambu -- was broken," and Mama Jane fled the town.

According to accounts of the witch hunt that circulated on evangelical Web sites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python they believed to be a demon.

After Mama Jane was questioned by police -- and released -- she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.

Muthee has frequently referred to this witch hunt in his sermons as an example of the power of "spiritual warfare." In October 2005, he delivered 10 sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church's Web site until it was removed around the time Palin's candidacy was announced. The blog Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.

It was during these sermons that Palin, who was then preparing for her gubernatorial run, was anointed by Muthee. His intercession, she says, was "awesome."

Her June 8 speech was to mark the graduation of students from the Wasilla Assembly of God's Masters' Commission, which, as Pastor Ed Kalins explains, believes Alaska will be the refuge for American evangelicals upon the coming "End of Days." After her speech, Palin was presented with an honorary Masters' Commission diploma.

AlterNet


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Diploid]
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So when are you going to become guv'nor of Florida?


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Yeah, but were you in a foxhole or a hospital?

(Or as Sean Connery calls it: a horshpitel.)


:lol:

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
Sarah Palin sees a witch doctor and somehow many Americans still consider her leader material. :shrug:




Many Americans believe in prayer and the supernatural.  Most presidents have said they were Christians.  A person's religious beliefs should have no bearing on their leadership qualities.  If they don't, I don't care what they "believe."  Some people are just religious bigots.  We can't do anything about that.  :shrug:

We need a bigger shrug icon.


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Bull shit. Don't judge others in comparison to yourself. :nono:


I'm not.  I was referring to conversations I had with WWII vets.  They were the ones that used the expression.  I can see the sense in it.


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Quite a bearing on leadership qualities having to adhere to the words of a 2000 year old book with just as many pages, no?


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Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. 

"Chat your fraff
Chat your fraff
Just chat your fraff
Chat your fraff"

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Grapefruit]
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Witch doctor is maybe just as reasonable as prayer but audience members can't participate in it


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Quote:
A person's religious beliefs should have no bearing on their leadership qualities.


Certainly depends on how one views leadership. Many nutcases have led countries.

However, if one is looking for a leader to make rational decisions, then one might choose the more rational candidate.


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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IMEO until it is not a requirement for public officials to believe in imaginary gods we will have a retard govt. Just sayin':shrug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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A person's religious beliefs should have no bearing on their leadership qualities.

So you're cool with Ronald Reagan's consulting an astrologer to decide national policy? Wow. :confused:

Next you'll tell me Jim Jones would have made a good president.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: Diploid]
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New Orleans shares an intimate connection with Voodou and other occult practices. There is a reason why Marie Laveau, the "Voodou Queen of New Orleans" was visited by politicians and lay people alike - mainly her practices worked. It works in the same way sugar pills cure diseases.

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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Quote:
There is a reason why Marie Laveau, the "Voodou Queen of New Orleans" was visited by politicians and lay people alike...


Gullibility, superstition, and desperation.

What did I win?


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Re: Lawmakers hire witch doctor to stop oil leak [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
What did I win?


A cup of ignorance and a sense of arrogant superiority? :grin:

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