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InvisibleSwami
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Salem Witch Trials
    #1769359 - 08/01/03 02:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you were accused, would you not want to have the likes of sclorch, rhizoid, strumpling and other critical-thinking skeptics as jurists or would you prefer those here that eagerly swallow every second-hand report given to them as gospel?


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1769495 - 08/01/03 03:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes, being skeptical isnt a bad thing. everyone should skeptical to a point....i believe there is a happy medium


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: CleverName]
    #1769556 - 08/01/03 03:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

BLASPHEMY!
Me knows a witch when me sees one! Burn her! BURN HER!


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1769567 - 08/01/03 03:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

'e turned me into a toad, 'e did...
'e's a witch, burn 'im !!!


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: CleverName]
    #1769585 - 08/01/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

....i believe there is a happy medium

OK, we will only roast the witch on one side.


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1769586 - 08/01/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

methinks the ones you speak of would be tolerant of the occult...

I heard the salem witch trials were caused by ergot poisoning in the wheat (ergot= lysergic acid)

all these people were trippin off corrupted wheat and they thought they were in hell, or being "bewitched, or they thought they had supernatural powers, or whatever...

I also heard that some young women were having such a good time while trippin that they decided to pleasure themselves with broomsticks...

so maybe thats where the whole "witches ride broomsticks" thing came from...


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1769603 - 08/01/03 03:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Umm, I am removing sclorch from the list. He would know she was innocent, but might convict anyway just for the novelty. Did you use a magnifying glass on ants as a small child?


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1769638 - 08/01/03 03:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

a perfect example of why skeptics are needed around here...


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1769651 - 08/01/03 03:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the "broomstick ride" was from annointing a broomstick handle with flying ointment (datura, henbane, belladonna, whatever...) & using it dildoishly...


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1769663 - 08/01/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: cybrbeast]
    #1769850 - 08/01/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

NO!

.... well... Yes - AH BIT! *abit abit abit abit abit*



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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1769882 - 08/01/03 04:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
....i believe there is a happy medium

OK, we will only roast the witch on one side.





Make mine medium-rare

Sceptics provide a way of weeding out the theorys that don't hold water. Fanatics provide away of coming up with off-the-wall, but perhaps ground-breaking ideas. Speaking of which, what are your thoughts on life Swami?


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Twirling]
    #1770115 - 08/01/03 05:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Speaking of which, what are your thoughts on life Swami?
"Posts: 4726 "

Sift through that and figure it out. :wink:


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1770214 - 08/01/03 06:02 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I just reread all my old posts and haven't a clue. :nut: 


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1770345 - 08/01/03 06:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well, if I was accused of being a witch during the Salem trials it would probably have been true:p but seriously, yeah I'd probably want to have some people around that think critically and don't jump to random conclusions based on any stimuli.

As for the Ergot thing I think that's probably the most likely explanation. There was also a lot of ergot poisoning going on during the witch trials in Europe. There were a whole lotta fearful repressed people tripping really hard and not having a clue how to explain it. If you were them what conclusion would you jump to? Since they already had a vested interest in repressing women the pieces fit.

And yeah, the broomstick/witch thing has two levels. 1) it's a symbol for fertility 2) broomsticks were rubbed with belladonna, mandrake or henbane and rubbed between the legs to induce flying visions. There are a lot of blood vessels down there that are very close to the surface, so it's a pretty smart way to take a substance that is easily toxic when taken orally. That connection didn't appear in Salem, it's existed for several thousand years.

~Jenn


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1772001 - 08/02/03 04:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Swami, I would conjure you up in a second if I were ever accused of such a malicious thing!!  :smile: 


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1772167 - 08/02/03 07:04 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah but what about there were REAL witches on trial!?! you skeptics would ruin EVERYTHING! they would be flying around stealing children and you would be like "nuh-uh there ain't so such things as witches" :noway:

and then what? you heartless skeptics! won't somebody please think of the children!

we don't want no children gettin hurt so you skeptics behave now.

 


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1773087 - 08/02/03 04:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Read the Crucible.

"What els floats on water?
Small pebbles?
No!
Wood?
Yes!
So that means, if she weighs less than a duck, it would mean she's made out of wood, which means she's a witch!"

Well, it's been a long time since I've seen it anyway...


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Sclorch]
    #1773157 - 08/02/03 04:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

as far as i know the witch trials went a little something like tis.

some lot of daughters had some kind of naughty secret they had to keep and the youngest cracked under the pressure and went all gaga. so the other sisters did the same an accused people of witch craft in order to keep their secret and what not.

i may be wrong but thats how i recall it. i highly doubt that ergotism was involved because that would include limbs rotting off, death and all other sorts of unpleasentrys.

the broomstick thing is very interesting. jus for the sake of conversation theres also a story from later times that they would sit by the fire to keep themselves warm and after taking the ointment would fly out the chimney, the broom stick was supposably propped up to prevent them from falling in.


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Re: Salem Witch Trials [Re: Swami]
    #1773273 - 08/02/03 05:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't exactly call all the thinking types here skeptics. Some are just downright debunkers and are not open the possibility of metaphysical phenomena in the slightest way.


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