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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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dna?
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almost every text ive ever read about dna refers to it as a code or language.
if this is true it must have been created, as codes and languages don't exactly happen randomly...................do they?
if this is so, then every living thing must have been 'created'? ne?
:shocked:like this 

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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yep. we were "programmed" in a way, with a set kind of responses to situations, and ways to respond to situations thereafter based on what happened before. we have a very intricate and mindboggling code that IS the things we do. cant do anything about it. quite depressing i guess. i just wanna make thank whoever programmed me, and gave me the chance to experience "life"


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"I think it's time we stop
Children, What's the sound,
Everybody look what's going down"

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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Ah methinks Mr Crisper is on to something.

Be careful crisp, the truth can hurt. :wink:

he he he he 

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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if this is true it must have been created, as codes and languages don't exactly happen randomly...................do they?

Ever heard of the Belousov-Zhabotinskii (BZ) reaction?
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Dammit I hate how cryptic and ambiguous you are, Mr_Mushrooms.
I figured a student of Plato wouldn't subscribe to such tactics so often.
I mean, they're almost rhetorical... but they're too short to be that. :wink: 


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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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Actually, I think it is the Chaos Theory which states that many codes and languages, which seem like they would have taken an immense amount of planning, actually are the results of randomness.

I don't think that the "code" of DNA shows in any way that we were created by anything except by the not-so-random randomness of nature (if that makes any sense at all! :laugh:  :crazy:).  I do think it's completely mindblowing that any one, single cell in your body contains all the genetic information you would need to create a whole other you, though.  Crazy, no?

 


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Namaste.

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Re: dna? [Re: Sclorch]
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no, please tell me more

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Re: dna? [Re: Sclorch]
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Mr_Mushrooms....... ambiguous?!

No!  :shocked:

-RebelSteve :smirk: 


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Namaste.

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Re: dna? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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ive always considered words like 'chaos', 'chance', 'luck' and so on, as excuses for not understanding the forces involved in any given event.
sorry if i seem rude, don't mean to dis anybody's nugget.

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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Do you ever have an unexplained yearning to be somewhere, or to be doing something? People often say this is to do with past-lives that we have lived. I believe this to be true but not in the sense that most others do.
We share most of our DNA with many other living things on Earth, and I believe that contained within our DNA is the DNA of our ancestors, only partially of course. It is the lives and experiences of these ancestors which trickle through to our own feelings.
I am finding it very difficult to explain my thoughts, but I do believe that we as beings are existing for the benefit of DNA, it appears intelligent

I need to think about this some more!


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Re: dna? [Re: ]
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up to, not on to

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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These two links should be good enough:
1
2


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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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okay, i will not use the term chaos then.  the code of dna has simply resulted from millions and millions of years of evolution.  if anybody created it, it was "mother nature."  that's all.

were you alluding to the fact that the code of dna has been created by some sort of "god?"  if so, then all i have to say is that i've always considered using "god" as an explanation for something is just an easy excuse for something you really don't understand.

:wink:

-rebelsteve


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Namaste.

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Re: dna? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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Steve- just click the second link.


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Re: dna? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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and is "mother nature" any different, except in terminology?

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Re: dna? [Re: Jackal]
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Quote:
I am finding it very difficult to explain my thoughts, but I do believe that we as beings are existing for the benefit of DNA, it appears intelligent


we are milked like cattle - emotional energy is a product in some circles.

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Re: dna? [Re: Sclorch]
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Sorry about the crypticity ol' chapstick.  I do not have time to fully explain the process.

What do you make of BZ and its mathematical analysis?

I do not think that a non-investigative science such as mathematics leads us further to the Truth (that's right, a capital "T").  Then again, we all know I am prejudiced towards philosophy which is also non-investigative. :smirk:

DNA code is a code and whether we like it or not the process of induction leads us inexorably to the conclusion that we are created and that there was a Creator.

Unless, of course, you can find language coming from somewhere other than intelligence.

I doubt it.

This also dovetails perfectly with other philosophical "proofs" I have for the existence of a Supreme Being. 

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Re: dna? [Re: mr crisper]
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Quote:
up to, not on to 


Ah, quite.  Indeed. :wink: :smile:

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Re: dna? [Re: RebelSteve33]
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okay, i will not use the term chaos then. the code of dna has simply resulted from millions and millions of years of evolution. if anybody created it, it was "mother nature." that's all.

-rebelsteve


A few words:

bunkum
hokum
piffle
bilge water
falderal
claptrap
blather
drivel
fiddle-faddle
hogwash
moonshine
rubbish
tommyrot

and my favorite:

Horseshit!

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Re: dna? [Re: ]
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M_M: What do you make of BZ and its mathematical analysis?

It's an example of feedback.
I wouldn't call feedback "the creator".

That ultimate question: "Why are we here?"
My answer: "Because we CAN be."

I think feedback (which creates order out of randomness) only supports my answer. Things have properties. Sometimes these properties promote feedback. It's as simple as that.


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Re: dna? [Re: ]
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I see you also don't like what Rebelsteve has to say about DNA and evolution. Great refutation by the way [/sarcasm].

Well, if I can garner the time.... I'll go through my genetics and biochemistry books and rejog my memory about RNA's enzymatic functions. Things happen... we need no omnipotent chemist to attribute these happenings to....


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