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Arizona Immigration Law
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Man, with the oil spill and the BS happening in Arizona, Not a good day in the south at all. Basically, if you look like an immigrant, you can be stopped by officers and if you dont have documented papers on you, you will be arrested.

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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The law, the law.

If I can't have pot for my pain to better my life..They shouldn't be able to back the law ether, to better there life..:mad:


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:cool: Fair is Fair :devil:

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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Goddamn nazi's :hitler:

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude] * 1
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Good for Arizona. A smart move.

Throw the illegal fuckwads out of the country.

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Man, with the oil spill and the BS happening in Arizona, Not a good day in the south at all. Basically, if you look like an immigrant, you can be stopped by officers and if you dont have documented papers on you, you will be arrested.


It's a shame you believe the bullshit.



By the way, there are other threads dealing with this in at least two forums, including this one.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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False, just looking brown isn't reason for officers to stop you.


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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Other states have started the process on a "traveling band" to Arizona, as they try to boycott the new law.

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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Here's one.

Here's another.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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subiedude said:
Basically, if you look like an immigrant, you can be stopped by officers and if you dont have documented papers on you, you will be arrested.


Imagine walking into your own home and finding someone uninvited there, and when you call the cops/Border Patrol/members of the state legislature/FedGov, all say: "Look, man, you got enough floor space..."

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Here's one.

Here's another.


:blush: my bad, i didn't see those

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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I've heard of people wonting to travel there to help the state out...

What all stuff is made in AZ..It's Time to do some Holiday shopping.. :cool:


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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subiedude said:my bad, i didn't see those


Did you look?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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i just check the front page, and yes i looked. damn dude, calm down:shrug: not a big deal

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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subiedude said:my bad, i didn't see those


Did you look?


Im pretty sure he can start a thread where ever he wants.......:stoned:

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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subiedude said:
Man, with the oil spill and the BS happening in Arizona, Not a good day in the south at all.




oil spill = bad

immigration law = good


Arizona's unemployment rate is starting to drop already


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: Prisoner#1]
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oil spill to cover up the hype of the immigration law :tinfoil:  :tinfoil:  :tinfoil:  :tinfoil:  :tinfoil:

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I really don't understand why people are so upset over this.

Would I be surprised if I was illegally residing and working in another country, and I got rounded up with a bunch of other illegals and kicked out?  Fuck no.  I'd expect it to happen sooner or later, especially if I couldn't speak the language.

It's just people's white guilt telling them they should help the brown people at all costs, because to do anything else is racist.


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: DragonChaser]
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i guess i agree, i like the fact that AZ is doing something about it, instead of waiting on the feds, But i also see a lot of profiling cases popping up across the state

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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: subiedude]
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The article discusses Arizona's new immigration law, SB 1070, which is opposed by many, including Sue Schwartz, a lifelong Arizonan with Mexican roots. Schwartz argues that the law targets undocumented workers taking jobs from citizens and overrunning towns, and that it is unfair for undocumented immigrants to be exempt from laws. She believes the law will lead to self-deportation and fairer job opportunities for citizens. However, others like Anna Gaines, a Mexican-born U.S. citizen, and Martha Payan, originally from Puerto Rico, support the law, citing concerns over overrunning towns, government welfare abuse, and the need for stricter border enforcement. Both sides express frustration with illegal immigration and its impact on American society.

For all the people against the bill, check out this article.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/30/arizona.hispanics.immigration/index.html?hpt=C1
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- Sue Schwartz says she's been called a racist so many times she doesn't mind the label anymore. If wanting immigrants to enter the country legally, like her great-grandparents from Mexico, and obey the laws of the land makes her racist, then so be it, she says firmly.

"I'm getting to the point I wear it with pride," says Schwartz, a lifelong Arizonan who has warily watched the growth of the illegal immigrant population in the state over the course of her life.

About 500,000 unauthorized immigrants were believed to live in Arizona in 2008, and 11.9 million nationwide, up from 3.5 million nationwide in 1990, according to a Pew Hispanic Center report published in 2009.
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"I hope it makes a lot of them leave on their own, self-deportation. Hopefully that'll open up more jobs. There's a lot of people here who will do menial jobs -- maybe not pick lettuce, but these people aren't just picking lettuce any more," Schwartz

The new law also targets those who hire illegal immigrant day laborers or knowingly transport them.

Schwartz, a retired USPS worker, says undocumented workers are taking jobs from citizens like her teenage granddaughter, who hasn't been able to find a job since she began looking after she turned 15.

"She can't even work at the Hometown Buffet if she doesn't speak Spanish. How fair is that?" she said.

But Schwartz and some other Americans with Hispanic backgrounds who spoke with CNN say the problem with illegals isn't just the jobs they take. It's how they're overrunning towns like Phoenix, turning them into "mini-Mexicos" with their trash-filled streets and loud music, according to Schwartz.

Of equal concern to her friend, Martha Payan, is how she says illegal immigrants "fleece" government coffers by collecting welfare on multiple children, or vanish without a trace after an arrest or a hospital visit.

Sporting a white baseball cap that that reads, "100% American Citizen," Schwartz says she believes that SB 1070 came about because law enforcement in Phoenix was fed up over not being able to ask suspects about their immigration status.

"Any time an American does something wrong or breaks the law they're going to pay the consequences. Whenever an illegal does something wrong they get a new ID and become a new person," she says. "I want the laws same for everybody here, not bent for them."

The 59-year-old mother of four adult children says her Mexican parents and grandparents taught her a respect for the law at an early age. Her grandmother, who lived in Juarez, Mexico, after being kicked out of the United States for smuggling drugs, encouraged her to get a good education and speak English, her second language, outside of the home.

"If I entered another country illegally I'd go to jail, yet they're demanding better treatment than their government would give us," she says.

Anna Gaines, a Mexican-born U.S. citizen, says she took up the fight against illegal immigration after becoming disillusioned by the attitudes of immigrant families that she witnessed as a teacher in the Paradise Valley School District in Paradise, Arizona.

"Many of these families were having one child after another just to earn a paycheck from the U.S. government and they didn't care about their children's education," says Gaines, the controversial founder of American Citizens United, a grass-roots organization known for its extreme views on immigration enforcement. "They didn't want to contribute, just take."
I hope it stops trespassers and lets people know ... you cross that border illegally, it's a crime.

Gaines, who came to the United States as a nurse on a work visa during the Vietnam War and met her current husband, says she thinks immigrants have changed over the years.

"There used to be a level of dignity and self-respect. They were hard-working people who wanted to contribute to American society because it was better than where they came from," says Gaines, a petite woman in her 70s. "But our government has been giving them handouts for so long that now they expect them."

Gaines says SB 1070 mirrors federal law on fortifying the borders, allowing local officials to enforce immigration law in a manner that the federal government should have been doing all along.

"We as Americans have the right to defend this country's laws. There's nothing racist about protecting the country," she says.

Payan, originally from Puerto Rico, hopes the law will deter future illegal immigration.

"I hope it stops trespassers and lets people know the law is the law and you cross that border illegally, it's a crime," she says.

Payan has also been called "traidora" or traitor by neighbors in her primarily Hispanic neighborhood who know how she feels about illegal immigrants.

"They know how I feel. I don't hide my feeling," she says. "I've already had by apartment broken into and had my car hit by an illegal. What more do I have to lose?"


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: DragonChaser]
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DragonChaser said:
Would I be surprised if I was illegally residing and working in another country, and I got rounded up with a bunch of other illegals and kicked out?  Fuck no.  I'd expect it to happen sooner or later, especially if I couldn't speak the language.



no shit, if you're looking for a middle eastern terrorist you dont  look
for a blonde haired woman with a german accent, you look at a mexican,
they're always guilty


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Re: Arizona Immigration Law [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
DragonChaser said:
Would I be surprised if I was illegally residing and working in another country, and I got rounded up with a bunch of other illegals and kicked out?  Fuck no.  I'd expect it to happen sooner or later, especially if I couldn't speak the language.



no shit, if you're looking for a middle eastern terrorist you dont  look
for a blonde haired woman with a german accent, you look at a mexican,
they're always guilty


...What?


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